TV: The Story Behind Leaving Neverland, the Michael Jackson Documentary That Stunned Sundance UPDATE! Lawsuit against HBO proceeds 2023!?
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There is a mountain of evidence AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IF YOU GOOGLE that proves MJ didn't molest kids. And that's not even taking into account the 2 separate FBI investigations that were done while he was alive that turned up absolutely nothing.
And for the last time, for those stuck on the "BUT, he let kids sleep in his room with him at night in his bed!" idea:
Fact 1 - His "room" was 2 floors big
Fact 2 - From the testimonies of those who are now adults in various occupations (amongst different races of people too) MJ would sleep on the floor and allow kids to sleep in his bed.
This isn't the question of if YOU PERSONALLY would allow your kids to stay at an adult male's home. This is to give context to what happened for those who were ok with that.
And for the last time, for those stuck on the "BUT, he let kids sleep in his room with him at night in his bed!" idea:
Fact 1 - His "room" was 2 floors big
Fact 2 - From the testimonies of those who are now adults in various occupations (amongst different races of people too) MJ would sleep on the floor and allow kids to sleep in his bed.
This isn't the question of if YOU PERSONALLY would allow your kids to stay at an adult male's home. This is to give context to what happened for those who were ok with that.
I agree my kids would be with me if we went to Neverland,Dollyworld,Disney or anywhere but I can see how people would not think its bad if its a group of kids plus his rooms were not like normal rooms his bedroom was over a 1000 sq ft but the parents have to be held to account for not being there or even letting the kids stay there in the 1st place.
One bedroom had 2 floors
He was sleeping with the boys at multiple residences.
Their asshole it sounds like
So y'all would be ok with letting your son spend a few weeks with Mike then?
Some of you cats are fucking stupid to even consider this shit.
MJ...the baddest and most popular entertainer of all time...before there was an internet...also...a BLACK MAN
.......molested kids and wasn't sent to prison for it?
Have you all forget about the system of the US and black people?
The system successfully sent Cosby to prison at 80+ years old a legally blind....yet you believe that MJ got off...
some of you niggas are straight STUPID....you would believe anything that's in a documentary...you know...because a documentary means that it's true
MJ...the baddest and most popular entertainer of all time...before there was an internet...also...a BLACK MAN
.......molested kids and wasn't sent to prison for it?
Have you all forget about the system of the US and black people?
The system successfully sent Cosby to prison at 80+ years old a legally blind....yet you believe that MJ got off...
some of you niggas are straight STUPID....you would believe anything that's in a documentary...you know...because a documentary means that it's true
Fuck No.
He was a self hating weirdo with arrested development.. Due in large part to a traumatic upbringing at the hands of a POS abusive dad. I wont reconcile any of that. But the other shit is fishy at best.
I have a lawyer friend and asked him this question. He said that they can't be arrested because these statements they are now making aren't in a court of law. He basically said they could say anything NOW without repercussions UNLESS they go back to court about it to which my friend said they will end up looking like liars in the court of law. It's similar to other cases where people will say one thing in court and another thing outside of it contrary to their friends or people on the streets to give their reasoning for what they said to a judge or jury.
Yeah, that was Mike's downfall. He was woke in some instances, but also in a bubble. One writer spoke about this in an article.
https://www.worldwideentertainmenttv.com/oldschoolsaturday-artist-of-the-week-michael-jackson/
That's an understatement
Dude was beyond eccentric lol. However, Marlon Jackson did say something interesting years ago that people would never really understand what it was like to be like someone as Michael Jackson unless they were Sammy Davis Jr and he was Sammy on steroids in the 60's-80's.This is how I see it. If these two NEVER went to court or at least were too afraid or shame to come forward earlier I would see this documentary a little bit differently. The fact they went in COURT and had no problem DEFENDING Michael Jackson makes this fishy beyond reasonable doubt.
The dead can't speak. This is too easy to conjure up to just completely believe them especially when you add in that they are doing perjury. I don't see what the point of this is now when they could have stopped him when he was alive if they were concerned he was going to hurt other children. This is all too convenient if you ask me and I'm one of the idea that Michael was too astute in certain things in life to not know the damn media was going to have a field day with him after that documentary by Bashir. He was too naive in that regards and as Steve Harvey said in that comedy special. Mike it just don't SOUND right even if you aren't doing anything. He is guilty for THAT thinking the media wouldn't run with that for spectacle on the news especially after he had those issues in early 90's.
One golden rule some in media go by is to never let the truth get in front of telling a juicy story. Let the chips fall where they may after regardless of what damage it does.
You remember when Michael did that counter documentary with Maury to show HIS angle of the documentary and how the media twisted the interviews? That went nowhere because it got in the way of the juicier story that Bashir was telling.
What does this have to do with believing decades old accusations from accusers and their family members who once testified on his behalf?
Because if he's a good dude then you shouldn't be worried. It would be like sending your son to camp. You sending your son to neverland?
Martin Bashir even admitted he didn't think Michael was guilty and he was the one that started the mess. THIS is never brought up either.
Has nothing to do with him being a good dude. Its about being a responsible parent. You wear a seatbelt because its a safety precaution.. Not because you do or dont trust other drivers. As a parent, what another persons motives are is secondary to whats in the best interest of a child. Its just not sound parental decision making to leave your kid to have sleepovers with a stranger under any circumstance.
Agreed. But after their previous statements they gotta come with more than explicit stories.
Can't have it both ways lol
Hes got a separate room
They just gonna watch movies and play tag.
Its mike man.
Hes like a big kid
Lol
Just wanted to say that....Billy Jean....is not my lover. She’s just a girl who claims that....I am the one....but the kid is NOT my son!
I am not the father!
I am not the father!
It actually wasn’t just white kids. I, like my man above saw Mikes fascinating with kids for what it truly was. Innocence lost. The man never got to be a child. Not in a traditional sense and enjoy his childhood. I’d never believe he would harm any child.
Edit. Kids still not mine, not my mf lover
But thats not what having it both ways means tho. Im saying i could give a dam if you a good guy or not.. Im not letting my kids have a sleepover with your grown ass regardless.
Mike Tyson didn’t have a child hood either , that excuse doesn’t fly. Tyson’s childhood was way shittier than MJ too. Much more traumaticIt actually wasn’t just white kids. I, like my man above saw Mikes fascinating with kids for what it truly was. Innocence lost. The man never got to be a child. Not in a traditional sense and enjoy his childhood. I’d never believe he would harm any child.
Edit. Kids still not mine, not my mf lover
In 2011, Robson approached John Branca, co-executor of the Michael Jackson Estate, about directing the new Michael Jackson/Cirque du Soleil production, ONE. Robson admitted he wanted the job “badly,” but the Estate ultimately chose someone else for the position.
In 2012, Robson had a nervous breakdown, triggered, he said, by an obsessive quest for success. His career, in his own words, began to “crumble.”
That same year, with Robson’s career, finances, and marriage in peril, he began shopping a book that claimed he was sexually abused by Michael Jackson. No publisher picked it up.
In 2013, Robson filed a $1.5 billion dollar civil lawsuit/creditor’s claim, along with James Safechuck, who also spent time with Jackson in the late ‘80s. Safechuck claimed he only realized he may have been abused when Robson filed his lawsuit. That lawsuit was dismissed by a probate court in 2017.
In 2019, the Sundance Film Festival premiered a documentary based entirely on Robson and Safechuck’s allegations. While the documentary is obviously emotionally disturbing given the content, it presents no new evidence or witnesses. The film’s director, Dan Reed, acknowledged not wanting to interview other key figures because it might complicate or compromise the story he wanted to tell.
- Forbes
In 2012, Robson had a nervous breakdown, triggered, he said, by an obsessive quest for success. His career, in his own words, began to “crumble.”
That same year, with Robson’s career, finances, and marriage in peril, he began shopping a book that claimed he was sexually abused by Michael Jackson. No publisher picked it up.
In 2013, Robson filed a $1.5 billion dollar civil lawsuit/creditor’s claim, along with James Safechuck, who also spent time with Jackson in the late ‘80s. Safechuck claimed he only realized he may have been abused when Robson filed his lawsuit. That lawsuit was dismissed by a probate court in 2017.
In 2019, the Sundance Film Festival premiered a documentary based entirely on Robson and Safechuck’s allegations. While the documentary is obviously emotionally disturbing given the content, it presents no new evidence or witnesses. The film’s director, Dan Reed, acknowledged not wanting to interview other key figures because it might complicate or compromise the story he wanted to tell.
- Forbes