Supreme Court, in 5-4 decision, upholds 45’s travel ban

cold-n-cocky

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Voting doesnt matter thought, right?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/politics/travel-ban-supreme-court/index.html
Supreme Court upholds travel ban
Washington (CNN) — The Supreme Court has upheld President Donald Trump's travel ban.

The ruling was 5-4 along partisan lines, with Chief Justice John Roberts writing for the conservative majority.


This is the third version of the travel ban. It was issued in September -- after previous bans had ricocheted through the courts -- and restricts entry from seven countries to varying degrees: Iran, North Korea, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Venezuela. Chad was originally on the list but it was recently removed after having met baseline security requirements.

"The Proclamation is squarely within the scope of Presidential authority," Roberts wrote.

Trump immediately reacted on Twitter:



The ruling sends a strong message that the President has broad powers under immigration law to act to protect national security and that statements made during a campaign may not be legally determinative of an executive's intent.

Challengers, including the state of Hawaii, argued that the proclamation exceeded the President's authority under immigration law as well as the Constitution. They also used Trump's statements during the campaign, when he called for a ban on travel from all Muslim-majority countries, but Roberts dismissed those concerns.

"Plaintiffs argue that this President's words strike at fundamental standards of respect and tolerance, in violation of our constitutional tradition," Roberts wrote. "But the issue before us is not whether to denounce the statements. It is instead the significance of those statements in reviewing a Presidential directive, neutral on its face, addressing a matter within the core of executive responsibility. In doing so, we must consider not only the statements of a particular President, but also the authority of the Presidency itself."



Sotomayor dissent


Justice Sonia Sotomayor, in a blistering dissent, said the court was wrong to ignore Trump's various comments.

"The majority here completely sets aside the President's charged statements about Muslims as irrelevant," she wrote. "That holding erodes the foundational principles of religious tolerance that the court elsewhere has so emphatically protected, and it tells members of minority religions in our country 'that they are outsiders, not full members of the political community.'"

She also compared the opinion to one that came down in 1944 in which the court blessed the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II.
 

easy_b

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And Avenatti. Dems don’t vote. No faith in em at all. If Mueller fails the country is fucked.
Democrats do vote Especially after the 2016 election they are voting. For the first time ever the Democrats outvoted the Republicans in orange county California yes the infamous orange county California
 

cold-n-cocky

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Congress literally halted the appointment of a Justice gambling the fate of the court and this country’s high court, all for politics.

And it worked.

And this is what we have; a ruling that combined with the recent activities at the border, is a gift to a country with a man who wants to be a dictator but who’ll settle for authoritarianism.

And the band kept playing......:smh:
 
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ballscout1

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Congress literally halted the appointment of a Justice gambling the fate of the court and this country’s high court, all for politics.

And it worked.

And this is what we have; a ruling that combined with the recent activities at the border, is a gift to a country with a man who wants to be a dictator but who’ll settle for authoritarianism.

And the band kept playing......:smh:

The Nazi wing of government pulled that shit and Democrats still didn't get their nuts out the sand and start fighting

Harry Reid Could have stopped all this by recognizing the GOPs obstruction and by changing the rules of senate votes from super majority to simple majority.

And he chose not to take the cuffs off Obama.

And as soon as the GOP took power they straight punked the Democrats by changing filibuster rules and the majority voting rules for most things.

For 8 years GOP would not give Obama shit but in the last months we have watched democrats join with republiKKKans to pass fucked up legislation.

The SCOTUS has been conservative for the last 45 years yet people say only they could save us.

Now only Mueller can save us.

While we still trust in Schumer and Pelosi the same leadership that just threw Auntie Maxine under the bus. But it isn't just her, where is the rest of the CBC who should be defending her.

They all allowed Trump to lie on her and the CBC remains silent while the white bosses joined with their republican brothers to denounce her.


SMDH
 

gdatruth

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but voting doesn't matter and Hillary was just as bad?

whatever happens Trump has succeeded in implementing his parties agenda. They pulled a fast one not hearing Obama's nominee for supreme court, now they have an advantage in numbers for the foreseeable future.

they got the 1 percent and corporations a significant, permanent tax cut

and they made it tougher for ppl of brown and black skin to enter the country

hopefully we remember this come November and 2020. it's a flawed system but we all know now it can be worse
 

easy_b

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but voting doesn't matter and Hillary was just as bad?

whatever happens Trump has succeeded in implementing his parties agenda. They pulled a fast one not hearing Obama's nominee for supreme court, now they have an advantage in numbers for the foreseeable future.

they got the 1 percent and corporations a significant, permanent tax cut

and they made it tougher for ppl of brown and black skin to enter the country

hopefully we remember this come November and 2020. it's a flawed system but we all know now it can be worse
Like I always said Hillary was a interesting person but she was 100 times better than Trump. What Trump is doing right now is going to have a terrible terrible effect on everyone in this country
 

ballscout1

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Like I always said Hillary was a interesting person but she was 100 times better than Trump. What Trump is doing right now is going to have a terrible terrible effect on everyone in this country

While I don't think Hillary would be as dangerous as trump has been.

Can you seriously tell me what makes you think based on her public life and what she has supported and done would make her 100 times better.

I am not sure her resume backs up that high hope.

We need to focus on civility.


When they go low we go high ?

better yet

When they go low we get high....:lol:
 

ballscout1

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Stolen Justice pick...

Obama should have forced Garland through it should have been his going away present

True......not sure how garland would have benefited black America because he was a moderate law and order jurist but he would have been good for immigrants , fags and healthcare
 

ballscout1

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but voting doesn't matter and Hillary was just as bad?

whatever happens Trump has succeeded in implementing his parties agenda. They pulled a fast one not hearing Obama's nominee for supreme court, now they have an advantage in numbers for the foreseeable future.

they got the 1 percent and corporations a significant, permanent tax cut

and they made it tougher for ppl of brown and black skin to enter the country

hopefully we remember this come November and 2020. it's a flawed system but we all know now it can be worse

if congress isn't taken in 2018 at least the senate then 2020 don't mean much.

btw

who have the democrats positioned for 2020 ?

can't be anybody new because there is no introduction tour going on which means the same old tired ass candidates.

Biden older than Trump
 

powmia

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After this ruling, whats stopping Giuliani and Dersowitcz from going to the Supreme Court to get a ruling in their favor that says a sitting President cannot be charged for obstruction and other crimes?

This could be the final nail in the coffin for a while. Stealing a mid term election is childs play. This same court ruled this week that they didn't even want to take up the issue of gerrymandered districts in NC and Texas, that it should be a states issue. Guess who controls those states, republicans.

It is sickening that Pelosi and Shumer want to criticize Mrs. Waters for challenging an illegitimate president and administration.
 

Mt Airy Groove

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The Nazi wing of government pulled that shit and Democrats still didn't get their nuts out the sand and start fighting

Harry Reid Could have stopped all this by recognizing the GOPs obstruction and by changing the rules of senate votes from super majority to simple majority.

And he chose not to take the cuffs off Obama.

And as soon as the GOP took power they straight punked the Democrats by changing filibuster rules and the majority voting rules for most things.

For 8 years GOP would not give Obama shit but in the last months we have watched democrats join with republiKKKans to pass fucked up legislation.

The SCOTUS has been conservative for the last 45 years yet people say only they could save us.

Now only Mueller can save us.

While we still trust in Schumer and Pelosi the same leadership that just threw Auntie Maxine under the bus. But it isn't just her, where is the rest of the CBC who should be defending her.

They all allowed Trump to lie on her and the CBC remains silent while the white bosses joined with their republican brothers to denounce her.


SMDH

Your constant whataboutism's is a weak excuse for not voting or voting for some 3rd party hack thst has no chance of winning. Yes the dems made mistakes, but the answer isnt sit out from voting. We knew what Trump was about. We knew the stakes yet people like you and your fan club failed to do your part. Welcome to 8 years of Trump and 50 more years of a conservative supreme court. Smart move :rolleyes2:
 

Day_Carver

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The Nazi wing of government pulled that shit and Democrats still didn't get their nuts out the sand and start fighting

Harry Reid Could have stopped all this by recognizing the GOPs obstruction and by changing the rules of senate votes from super majority to simple majority.

And he chose not to take the cuffs off Obama.

And as soon as the GOP took power they straight punked the Democrats by changing filibuster rules and the majority voting rules for most things.

For 8 years GOP would not give Obama shit but in the last months we have watched democrats join with republiKKKans to pass fucked up legislation.

The SCOTUS has been conservative for the last 45 years yet people say only they could save us.

Now only Mueller can save us.

While we still trust in Schumer and Pelosi the same leadership that just threw Auntie Maxine under the bus. But it isn't just her, where is the rest of the CBC who should be defending her.

They all allowed Trump to lie on her and the CBC remains silent while the white bosses joined with their republican brothers to denounce her.


SMDH
But we have some on this board that say Dems are the same as Repubs:hmm:
 

saundman

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They coulda filibustered and blocked Gorsuch in response.

DEMs got no balls.

When Obama was elected in 2008, we got the Tea Party.
The Tea Party was loud and in everybody faces. The Tea Party had season politicians scared of the words "You will be primaried."
Season politicians were scared to even have town hall meeting.

If a DEM start shouting back their no balls colleagues say we have to go high while they go low and be quite.
It is time to roll up the sleeves and fight everything and every policy the GOP brings forward.
 

ballscout1

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But we have some on this board that say Dems are the same as Repubs:hmm:

Not sure how old you are but Democrats today are no different than 80s and 90s Republicans because Democrats have no identity and the further right the GOP goes the further right the democrats follow them..

During 2016 cycle how many times on this board was the term lesser of two evils used ? That doesn't sound like much of a difference overall.


They coulda filibustered and blocked Gorsuch in response.

No they couldn't because the rules were changed but they was on some let this one go and fillibuster the next.

Your constant whataboutism's is a weak excuse for not voting or voting for some 3rd party hack thst has no chance of winning. Yes the dems made mistakes, but the answer isnt sit out from voting. We knew what Trump was about. We knew the stakes yet people like you and your fan club failed to do your part. Welcome to 8 years of Trump and 50 more years of a conservative supreme court. Smart move :rolleyes2:

You still on that dumb shit ? Hillary won my state. She lost states she didn't campaign in, states that Obama carried twice.

But she didn't lose because people voted 3rd party or stayed home. She lost because of her own ineptness and white woman voted against her.

The smart move was forcing her down the throats of the electorate.

The smart move was allowing her to be a carpetbagger in NY to get into the senate

The smart move was making her unqualified ass secretary or state so she could fatten up her resume

She still got 95+ % of the black vote so stop trying to pout her loss anywhere near black folks.
 

ballscout1

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That's all there is to it
The bitch ass Democrats don't care and don't want to fight for the country period

Republicans fight on their bullshit

How you gonna be on the right side and be too scared to actually enact change

Obama built a ground game and used millions of small donors.

Mofokrs really want to see the difference between democrats and republicans just look at who donates and pays for their speeches and finances them.
 

largebillsonlyplease

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Obama built a ground game and used millions of small donors.

Mofokrs really want to see the difference between democrats and republicans just look at who donates and pays for their speeches and finances them.

Which mean Rich Dems need to do the same

The age of civility is over
Fight and rebuke is all the party needs to run on

Fight fire with napalm
 
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