Strong Independent Black Woman = Bamboozled ( w/ Sarge WP respnse)

[doublejizzle]

Sir this is not true. I do think there are SOME black men out there somewhere who are stellar. Laws of averages just have to work that way. As for President Obama? He's not a black man to me. And as for "good"? He's a politician. I don't believe the very essence of those words are antithesis to 1 another. I agree. And personally i do. But shouldn't he excel? Shouldn't we ALL stive for excellence? Giving a pat on the back is fine. And i'm all for positive encouragement. But giving a guy accolades and praise because he has basic things? Calling him "on point" Because he has the basics? No. I will not do that. Not when there are more vital things missing from his equation. I'm sorry if i came off as asking you to prove anything to me. I meant nothing i said to be personal. Where was it said that i do anything worth praise? Nowhere in this thread has it been discussed about what a woman should be doing. If that thread comes up. I'll speak on it.

I am asking you now to speak on it. See, you are talking about a super being. I just asked in YOUR eyes what an on point brotha does, or rather what is the standard because apparently having a job, family, career, education, good heart, etc is only a start

Secondly, what are YOU doing, job, etc, and please don't lie.

 

[bgbtylvr]

Cut her mic off. This is the most foolish shit I have heard all day. No one said that all sistas are this or that, but here you come with some weak talk. I got a career, education, zero children, and handle my business. If that is all you see, you must run in sorry circles.

Cut her mic off! Foolishness!!!!!!!

 

[Understand My Story]

I agree with what your saying but these women are already making "better choices" according to what they actually want, be it a man who is a "deadbeat" or a "mogul." Yes, women determine when the baby will be born,etc. Women do not have the one thing they need, a seed. Men do, alot of the "no good losers" many dudes have the audacity to talk shit about get trapped up in emotional/social games as much as the "square" dude. Women simply making better choices as to who to have babies from will not stop the sluts from being sluts, they will just be "married" double dick . About 30-40% of all married men are fathering children that are not theirs. In Jamaica it was about 28%. I say let the women choose who they want, because at the end of the day it is them who will suffer the most, as it should be.

Just implying that women should marry/have babies with only a "square" and not a dude who "aint shit" doesnt mean that she will not fuck the dude who "aint shit" constantly, while the "square" dude takes her out on a date, and she plays the part. dude will just make sluts into hustlers and gold diggers.

Yea women get to pick who they want, but men get to pick who they want to "keep." Men determine who marries, women determine who gets ass and babies. So men have more sway in the game overall and in the long term, while women win in the short term. Many women know this which is why they use pussy and/or children as a tool to control a man.

Men need to start making better choices,starting with themselves. The women will follow behind because alot of them desire our desire/attention more than anything....

I say let them girls do what they do, its only revealing who they really are, and if you think about it, would you really want a woman with that type of character to choose you because you are a good man?

I agree with much of what you said. I was not implying that a woman should get with a man that she doesn't want just because he was a square I was saying that a woman should be aware of the probable consequences and prepared to deal with them and accept responsibility for her role. Too many woman want to blame everyone but themselves when they make bad choices.

Men do control marriage which is at an all-time low right now. Men control the long-term while women control the short term. Too many women and men lose sight of this. My point about the babies was that men are naturally more willing to spread their seed and they have an option as to whether they want to stick around and raise said seed. It's up to women as the one's who get stuck with the kids to be smarter and make better decisions. Not to say that men don't have to be smarter but we do have the option to leave (not endorsing just pointing it out) and many men take advantage of this option when faced with the prospect of fathering a child with a woman that they don't want while the woman in that situation is generally stuck.

Men in general do need to step their game up however many are quite content with the bullshit that is going on now. Both sexes need to be smarter but it is usually the women and the children who suffer more often than the man when bad decisions are made. That's why I said women have to make better choices because the average nigga is gonna take whatever pussy is thrown at him and until he is presented with some sort of deterent that isn't happening. Meanwhile women have the deterent and they still do all kinds of dumb shit. That's why if you are a good dude you have to focus in on the good women and avoid the rest like the plague. Same goes for good women.

 

[SaKem]

Queen, with all due respect, what is a MAN to you? What does that mean? I ask that because in another thread, you criticized a current Rhodes Scholar... a black man who graduated from UPenn magna cum-laude... a black man who was accepted to a PHD program at PRINCETON straight from undergraduate... a black man who is considered the Saul Williams of his generation... as SOFT. Said you'd have to punch him in his chest to toughen him up. Strictly because he does poetry. It's not like you know him. He did a poem big upping sistas, and you automatically assumed he's soft. That actually says more about you than him. So I ask you, what is a MAN in your opinion?

Ether

 

[BCAA2009]

I think she's looking for a "2pac with a degree"


That may be her definition of a "man."



I swear, I think sometimes women don't even know what they want themselves. One minute they want a good man, then he's "soft", next they want to embrace their inner dyke, then they want a "good man" again...

 

[ionblast]

I think she's looking for a "2pac with a degree"


That may be her definition of a "man."



I swear, I think sometimes women don't even know what they want themselves. One minute they want a good man, then he's "soft", next they want to embrace their inner dyke, then they want a "good man" again...

Actually, I don't even think they really want 2pac w/a Degree (other than for booty calls). Why? Because if they can't control an L7 cat with a degree (especially a degree in one of the hard sciences) what makes them think they can do the same with a street cat with the same degree? They chose dudes like the "Pookies" and "Ray Rays" because they think they can control them through finances. They find themselves in a type of paradox. They want to control the relationship but ultimately find themselves unhappy because it's not in their nature to control.

 

[LoneStar29]

I think she's looking for a "2pac with a degree"


That may be her definition of a "man."



I swear, I think sometimes women don't even know what they want themselves. One minute they want a good man, then he's "soft", next they want to embrace their inner dyke, then they want a "good man" again...

Are you talking about Legacy_Infinity?? She was married for a long time and her husband just passed away recently and from what I remember her saying about him he was no thug, he was a good family man

But alot of you assume the worst first so I get it

 

[doublejizzle]

These ladies want;

Tupac with a Degree
Hoop game like Jordan
Handy like Tim the toolman/McGyver
Cook like Emeril
Heart of God himself
Business game of Donald Trump

etc, etc, etc

 

[BCAA2009]

Actually, I don't even think they really want 2pac w/a Degree (other than for booty calls). Why? Because if they can't control an L7 cat with a degree (especially a degree in one of the hard sciences) what makes them think they can do the same with a street cat with the same degree? They chose dudes like the "Pookies" and "Ray Rays" because they think they can control them through finances. They find themselves in a type of paradox. They want to control the relationship but ultimately find themselves unhappy because it's not in their nature to control.

Well, I lucked up a married a woman whose parents and grandparents instilled morals and values within her. She was raised to be a wife. She's one of those once in a lifetime women that come along as often as Haley's comet. Attractive, intelligent, no kids, can cook, fun to be around, no tolerance for coonery.


I noticed you said you were married. Hold on to her dude, it ain't good out there anymore.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

I am asking you now to speak on it. See, you are talking about a super being. I just asked in YOUR eyes what an on point brotha does, or rather what is the standard because apparently having a job, family, career, education, good heart, etc is only a start

Secondly, what are YOU doing, job, etc, and please don't lie.

Apologies, i misunderstood. I'm not talking about a super being though. Not in my eyes. I've seen the men who did the things i view and they're not SUPERBEINGS. They're just MEN. Doing what they're supposed to be doing. You added good heart btw. That wasn't in your initial briefing. lol Kidding. A real man to me if he's not married, no chlidren. He needs to be doing self improvement to the point where he can be a beacon for others. Travel, learn about the world. And then use that knowledge to make the world better in some way. The persuit of monetary gain does not a man make to me. You are deficient in my eyes. He will instruct the youth and instruct other wayward brothers along the way as well. He will not act selfishly. He will not spend his money on needless things. He will treat people fairly. Sensibly. Justly. He will treat women/people period, with respect. He won't stand for the mistreatment of others. He will know how to handle adversity, and be able to stand up even when the world keeps knocking him down. It's ok for him to be sensitive in his moments to his loved ones. Nothing should be TOO hard. If he's married he will be a dutiful and a loyal husband. He will KEEP HIS PROMISES. He should be able to be counted on.

Does he take care of his home? My husband taught me a man's word should solid and unshaking. He will be trustworthy. Strong minded. Courageous. Understanding of his feelings, and knows how to adapt to his woman's and childrens. He should be able to teach as well as He will be open to learning. He is a good father to his children. Attentive. Sacrificing. He will always keep them in mind FIRST. He will not put himself in danger just for the sake of money. Or for the sake of his own pride. He will know that his children come first, because they need him more than they need anything else. He should always strive for excellence. As well as inspire others to do so as well.

He should be honorable. And this is something i believe that the very idea is LOST on 90% of the worlds males today. They have no idea what HONOR is.

So yes. A job and a car. And i have my own house. And i went to college. Is all very nice. Yes black man you've made it(Not you in particular) But what have you done for anyone else? Can i believe you? Can i trust you? Can i count on you? Will i be able to believe you'll do the right thing in a given situation?

As for me? i work with chlidren in the community and care for my family and friends. I'm a mother and now a widow. Struggling to maintain a place to live and a future without my man. We're ok but things are a little hard right now. Doing things he once did is the hardest part of all. But because of him. Because of what he taught me in our years together i'm managing. And hopefully i'll still exceed all the things he was working towards 1 day.

Our next project was to be a place for runaway teens to go too. Teach them how to cope with what the world is. And maybe even help them reconnect with their families. It's something very close to me as i was a teen runaway myself. I still hope to get it done. It's just going to be a little more challenging now.

I know i'll recieve flak for what i said. But i'm ok with that. We all have different views and opinions and i'm perfectly willing to be berated. But you did ask me. And this is what i believe.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Well, I lucked up a married a woman whose parents and grandparents instilled morals and values within her. She was raised to be a wife. She's one of those once in a lifetime women that come along as often as Haley's comet. Attractive, intelligent, no kids, can cook, fun to be around, no tolerance for coonery.


I noticed you said you were married. Hold on to her dude, it ain't good out there anymore.

Very good. It's nice to see a couple like this again. I don't want Tupac with a degree though. lol Tupac was a fake wanna be thug who in the end pandered to an audience. His first 2 albums were gems. I wouldn't want an entertainer. And my inner dyke was never INNER. lol.

 

[ionblast]

Well, I lucked up a married a woman whose parents and grandparents instilled morals and values within her. She was raised to be a wife. She's one of those once in a lifetime women that come along as often as Haley's comet. Attractive, intelligent, no kids, can cook, fun to be around, no tolerance for coonery.


I noticed you said you were married. Hold on to her dude, it ain't good out there anymore.

Married? Actually, I'm not and a few months ago, I would have said "never". It's amazing what happens when you say "never". Marriage is looking like real possibility since the old lady and I vibe really well and I can't recall vibing this well with anyone in recent years. However, it's still too early to seriously consider marriage. If I don't marry her, she'll be the prototype for the one I choose to marry.

 

[RoomService]

wow very nice drop

 

[doublejizzle]

Apologies, i misunderstood. I'm not talking about a super being though. Not in my eyes. I've seen the men who did the things i view and they're not SUPERBEINGS. They're just MEN. Doing what they're supposed to be doing. You added good heart btw. That wasn't in your initial briefing. lol Kidding. A real man to me if he's not married, no chlidren. He needs to be doing self improvement to the point where he can be a beacon for others. Travel, learn about the world. And then use that knowledge to make the world better in some way. The persuit of monetary gain does not a man make to me. You are deficient in my eyes. He will instruct the youth and instruct other wayward brothers along the way as well. He will not act selfishly. He will not spend his money on needless things. He will treat people fairly. Sensibly. Justly. He will treat women/people period, with respect. He won't stand for the mistreatment of others. He will know how to handle adversity, and be able to stand up even when the world keeps knocking him down. It's ok for him to be sensitive in his moments to his loved ones. Nothing should be TOO hard. If he's married he will be a dutiful and a loyal husband. He will KEEP HIS PROMISES. He should be able to be counted on.

My husband taught me a man's word should solid and unshaking. He will be trustworthy. Strong minded. Courageous. Understanding of his feelings, and knows how to adapt to his woman's and childrens. He should be able to teach as well as He will be open to learning. He is a good father to his children. Attentive. Sacrificing. He will always keep them in mind FIRST. He will not put himself in danger just for the sake of money. Or for the sake of his own pride. He will know that his children come first, because they need him more than they need anything else. He should always strive for excellence. As well as inspire others to do so as well.

He should be honorable. And this is something i believe that the very idea is LOST on 90% of the worlds males today. They have no idea what HONOR is.

So yes. A job and a car. And i have my own house. And i went to college. Is all very nice. Yes black man you've made it(Not you in particular) But what have you done for anyone else? Can i believe you? Can i trust you? Can i count on you? Will i be able to believe you'll do the right thing in a given situation?

As for me? i work with chlidren in the community and care for my family and friends. I'm a mother and now a widow. Struggling to maintain a place to live and a future without my man. We're ok but things are a little hard right now. Doing things he once did is the hardest part of all. But because of him. Because of what he taught me in our years together i'm managing. And hopefully i'll still exceed all the things he was working towards 1 day.

Our next project was to be a place for runaway teens to go too. Teach them how to cope with what the world is. And maybe even help them reconnect with their families. It's something very close to me as i was a teen runaway myself. I still hope to get it done. It's just going to be a little more challenging now.

Aight, I hear you. I am going to assume you mean well. Like I said, I don't need your endorsement, nor anyone else on here. I work, vote, volunteer, spoil my niece/nephews, go to school(85-90% done with M.B.A), occasionally pull a kitten out a tree, so yeah.....if you don't like it....kick rocks.

They hated on Jesus also, i'm just saying. I feel blessed to be gainfully employed in this economy, and am proud of what i do. I don't do things for kudos or pats on the back, but because I want to help others. At any rate, I wish you well, but the original topic still alludes you. The original topic was that just like you did me, women have extremely high demands for the men, but always seem to not be able to hold the same standard for themselves. I am not coming at you personally, I am just stating the obvious.

These women are quick to go on tv and say that good black men don't exist, but one comes along, then they have to be treated like their life accomplishments and works aren't enough. I'm saying, we love our sistas, but some times it seems as though as hard as we work, they are working at least equally hard against us. Bottom line is that if you want to be single and do your thing, good for you(not you personally), but you don't have to sit there and say there are not good men available when there are, but they go out of there way to disqualify them for any litle thing.

 

[mikemagic63]

I'm reading all of this and its a good discussion.

For men:
Some women just won't get it. Its like college. Some people have talent, opportunities, every reason in the world to go. But they don't. And they miss out. Later in life, they might go back. But it will be harder for them. Maybe they will never get to college. That's how I look at marriage. Women hold the cards but they don't understand that its up to them in the end.

For women:
There are two types of dude: Dudes that want to get married and dudes that don't. Spend your time on the dudes that want to get married and cut out the rest. Finding Mr. Right and trying to make him marry you is just hustling backwards. If a dude ain't ready, he ain't ready and you ain't going to be the one for him. The dude that actually wants to marry you should be the real Mr. Right. Please share this would your friends, family, children, whoever. At some point, a women will want to be married. But the things women do for love can make it so hard for them to land that guy who would be their husband. Be mindful that you (women) don't get used up, spoiled, and undateable before you meet the right guy.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Aight, I hear you. I am going to assume you mean well. Like I said, I don't need your endorsement, nor anyone else on here. I work, vote, volunteer, spoil my niece/nephews, go to school(85-90% done with M.B.A), occasionally pull a kitten out a tree, so yeah.....if you don't like it....kick rocks.

Sir, i really feel like you mean this. I am not looking for anything from you. Please don't think that i am. I don't wish it. I don't know you.

They hated on Jesus also, i'm just saying. I feel blessed to be gainfully employed in this economy, and am proud of what i do. I don't do things for kudos or pats on the back, but because I want to help others. At any rate, I wish you well, but the original topic still alludes you. The original topic was that just like you did me, women have extremely high demands for the men, but always seem to not be able to hold the same standard for themselves. I am not coming at you personally, I am just stating the obvious.

I disagree. My original post in this thread i believe i said women had to be this way. They had to come and be "independent" and "strong" because of the lack of black male leadership.

No woman worth anything in my view is going to go on TV and say anything. I'm against divorce. And i don't believe in it either. I'm against having children out of wedlock. But not for the same reasons. A good black woman will be recognized by a good black man when he's ready for her. I hope. If there are any of either left.

 

[DJB10]

Bump!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Naha-Nago]

Actually, I don't even think they really want 2pac w/a Degree (other than for booty calls). Why? Because if they can't control an L7 cat with a degree (especially a degree in one of the hard sciences) what makes them think they can do the same with a street cat with the same degree? They chose dudes like the "Pookies" and "Ray Rays" because they think they can control them through finances. They find themselves in a type of paradox. They want to control the relationship but ultimately find themselves unhappy because it's not in their nature to control.

Yep,

"2Pac with a Degree"=

-Has enough street smarts to instinctually know the true nature of women.

-Has enough book smarts to logically apply that knowledge to his benefit.

which=

only deals with women on his terms...period



*two cents*

 

[SaKem]

I call your "love" into question because it's suspect. That is, I am inclined to believe your love has more to do with circumstance than choice. This is based on my dealings with Ethiopians of various ethnicities and other from the horn of Africa. It would be in your best "e-interest" to just shut your simple ass the fuck up. Take the L and keep it moving. If the nigga who knocked you was similar to you in intelligence, I feel sorry for your offspring.

Just to play devils advocate, do you think Africans from west or south Africa like African Americans? It doesn't matter if they're from the horn or not.

 

[ionblast]

Just to play devils advocate, do you think Africans from west or south Africa like African Americans? It doesn't matter if they're from the horn or not.

Actually, I've met plenty of Bantus and Nigerians who don't care for African Americans. However, if you do see an African cat kicking it with AAs, he's most likely a Nigerian (probably Igbo). Despite the fact I've met West and "southern" African (not SA proper. I know they don't like West Africans down there) Bantus who weren't too crazy about us, the worst attitudes have been from "Horners" (in my experience). Ethiopians often had the worst attitudes (there's also the "ethnic rivalry" thing between different Ethiopian ethnic groups). Somalis are more inclined to go from the shoulders if they get heated, but they seem cooler than their Ethiopian neighbors.

 

[ionblast]

Yep,

"2Pac with a Degree"=

-Has enough street smarts to instinctually know the true nature of women.

-Has enough book smarts to logically apply that knowledge to his benefit.

which=

only deals with women on his terms...period



*two cents*

Yep. I know more than a few cats who could almost be described as "2 Pac w/ degree" except for the fact they were actual street cats. Many of them are with non-black broads.

 

[SaKem]

Actually, I've met plenty of Bantus and Nigerians who don't care for African Americans. However, if you do see an African cat kicking it with AAs, he's most likely a Nigerian (probably Igbo). Despite the fact I've met West and "southern" African (not SA proper. I know they don't like West Africans down there) Bantus who weren't too crazy about us, the worst attitudes have been from "Horners". Ethiopians often had the worst attitudes. I almost thought the same about Somalis until I realized that many of them really don't like each other (the clan thing runs deep with those cats) -- however, they have proven to be much cooler than Ethiopians.

I'm tellin you man, it's all in your head. They all don't like you (all meaning most Africans in general don't want to deal with African Americans). 2. Most of my African friends have been East African "horners". And one of my closest was Sudanese. I think it's more how you act.

 

[ionblast]

I'm tellin you man, it's all in your head. They all don't like you (all meaning most Africans in general don't want to deal with African Americans). 2. Most of my African friends have been East African "horners". And one of my closest was Sudanese. I think it's more how you act.

Point taken. We have different experiences and, in hindsight, when I was in DC, I did have a way about me that caused some people to be cautious (I was on some "throw caution to the wind" shit), or make a snap judgment.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

I'm tellin you man, it's all in your head. They all don't like you (all meaning most Africans in general don't want to deal with African Americans). 2. Most of my African friends have been East African "horners". And one of my closest was Sudanese. I think it's more how you act.

Have you been to Africa? When i went? This was not my experience.

 

[SaKem]

Have you been to Africa? When i went? This was not my experience.

Which point hasn't been your experience, the positive or the negative part.

 

[oolong tea]

Have you been to Africa? When i went? This was not my experience.

I have been to Africa a few times. But I'll refrain from a statement. Also, grew up in an African "last generation" household. Anyhow, tell us about your experience.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

I have been to Africa a few times. But I'll refrain from a statement. Also, grew up in an African "last generation" household. Anyhow, tell us about your experience.

I had a very bad experience. And several very good ones. I wasn't treated like i was hated. I was always taught to try to understand the language. I even had the birth of a child there. All this, "africans hate black americans" stuff. I just didn't see it. I got told some opinions. Of what what they thought went on. And open discourse was always seemingly friendly and true. It bothers me this division that people try to create. My husband told me of course different areas different results. Yes africa is a GRAND continent and there are going to be many different view points.

But that needs to be stated then. Saying AFRICANS don't like black people is ridiculous.

 

[Philli]

Bump to listen to later

 

[8SD8-retired_member]

The Black community is fucked. Get over it.

No way in hell you'll get millions of Blacks to suddenly come together at this point.

If Black men can place 100% of the blame on Black women, and Black women place all the blame on Black men, how in the fuck does that help our community?

Motherfuckers just don't realize that we have no community without the Black man AND the Black woman, yet somehow think it's some kind of fucking victory when someone tells them it's not their fault.

The world has to be laughing at us.

 

[bootlegga]

Honestly my first post was sarcasm and frustation laced. My bad. I apologize. But honestly i don't see a solution. As i said i don't see this getting any better only worse. I see all the blame being put on women. Males taking NO responsibility. And it's never going to end. No matter WHAT happens. Males blame women. Black women specifically.

I think now with hearing things like this i worry about instilling such love for black people into my children. This is a bothersome thing for me. I apologize.

actually i'm more accustomed to hearing the opposite on the internet, where most of the opinion/relationship blogs are written by women/for women...so i'm kinda used to it. i just start turning it off, and stop dealing with 98% of black women.


but if this is how you feel, i'll add you to the list. i won't go back and forth with you on your opinions or argue with you like Lonestar or something like that. it just means i'll cease to exist in your "world". and honestly, i think more bm will just withdraw/avoid from dealing with bw...and when that happens....THAT will be scary.

 

[wutdadeal3]

Basically



That's the joke ... alot of them claim to be leaders but then pass the buck over to us EVERYTIME ... alot of them have put in ZERO work in building their women and communities up but want to complain non stop about what WE are doing wrong ... abandon their children, its our fault ... end up in jail, its our fault ... chasing massa's daughter, its our fault ... this is why we fail cuz our so called leaders for the most part have no fuckin clue how to lead ... you dont see any man of any othre race treating their women like this ... this is why alot of men of other races dont take black men seriously especially when shouting black power with a white chick by their side

Lonestar what is up with you? I thought you were cool peoples. Despite what we went through trying to build a friendship...you are totally off on this one. Why does everything have to be so personal with you? Why do you have to play the Tyra Banks role with everything? You don't even realize that your actions are backing this video and topic 1000% (10 times more than 100%). Pointing the finger at males and not yourself is what this topic is about. It's well known that they're faults on both sides (both male and female)...but the topic is addressing females, and it's a female in the video that's calling out females this time. So, how did that switch in your mind to attack males.

(Personal business posted):
I have a book coming out and the following information is included in it...

My daughter, who is not my daughter biologically, has a dead beat dad. A guy that has the nerve to call himself a man when he's less than a whorish bitch. He won't even acknowledge his daughter because he's mad that he can't have sex with her mother anymore. He basically disowned her when she was about 4 years old. I've been daddy ever since. She adopted me as daddy and her mother allows us to be father and daughter. I take full responsibility for her because she didn't ask to come here or be put through such an ordeal. Some may call me a simp but I don't feel that a child should suffer for some asshole's bullshit. Her mother is not male bashing because I exist. I am a prime example of "there are good men or real men in the world." No, I am not her godfather...I am her daddy and both her mother and I are working on having me on my daughter's birth certificate. I became that little girls hope. So she would know what to look for in a man. I'm setting that example...and I didn't have to have sex with her mother or be in a relationship with her mother to get in that position. This little girl mother did what you couldn't do...

1) she is a true friend to me, no pressure of establishing a relationship
2) she doesn't male bash or point the finger at all males like we are the worst things on this earth.
3) she is woman enough to know what she needs and can politely but sternly ask for it without sparking an argument or debate.
4) she acknowledges real/good men, although she knows some assholes do exist.
5) she is a beautiful mother who don't complain or blame her hardships on males although some of her hardships were caused by them.
6) she doesn't ask me for anything but allows me to be that male figure for her daughter and that true friend to her.

(End of Personal business post)
I say all of this to let it be known that all of that BullShit you stated about guys is truly full of shit. What I'm saying is... please listen to and watch the video and if you're going to comment...stick to the topic instead of swaying away from it and using it to attack or male bash fueled by your own personal experiences. You must take responsibility for your actions and decisions. We could've been good friends but you couldn't see past your emotional scarrs. You didn't know how to be a friend. You wanted either a relationship or distance. That's one hell of a choice. You have a son, think about how you treat males...then ask, would you like females to treat your son that way? You really need to re-evaluate yourself then try selecting a better grade of men to be in your life whether it be friends, friends with benifits, or a relationship. Stop attacking and try getting to know them before jumping into anything. You may never know...you might find something you don't think exist, a real man.

Those are just words of wisdom...it's not meant to be taken as an attack but it should be taken as FOOD FOR THOUGHT.