Some teachers around the country are saying fuck this shit I’m retiring early

[BKF]

My cousin is a director of athletics for the school district she teaches in after being a coach and vice principal for a school within that district.

Her husband is the superintendent of that district after being a principal for a high school here in Houston.

Speak on what you know and don't make assumptions.

You did make a big assumption about teachers bouncing to other profession, etc... There are teachers who go into the urban areas to teach in those districts until they have their students loans forgiven but they usually bounce not to other professions but to suburban school districts. Those whom are unable to or can't hack the profession of teaching usually bounce to other professions.

You're right about one thing though and this is regardless of how much one makes. You have to have a passion for teaching.

 

[Pow Wow]

Teachers only doing it to avoid them student loans... once they get that commitment covered they bounce to other professions...

There's no money in teaching... you have to have a passion for doing it, have a spouse that's the breadwinner, or it's likely a stop gap until something better comes along

Nearly all public schools in CA have salary schedules that reach to the 6 figure range. They usually cap around 120-125k. It just takes 10+ years with the district, grad degrees, and usually some credits. People like to claim that teachers don't make money. They make good bread, especially when you consider the 80k+ is made with every holiday taken, teacher days (no kids), and the summer off. Working 8 1/2 or 9 months out of the year and pulling a full salary isn't a bad setup.

 

[Pow Wow]

You're right about one thing though and this is regardless of how much one makes. You have to have a passion for teaching.

Or a passion for railroading certain demographics of students.

 

[0utsyder]

A lot of these folks getting into teaching AREN'T built for it. The low pay, the lack of funding for teachers, the lack of raises, children that have behavioral problems, parents that have behavioral problems, a toothless union (unless you live in a major metropolitan city) You through in school shootings forgetaboutit. They get a taste of this shyt and they QUIT!!!

My mother LOVES this remote teaching. She hasn't had to spend a dime this year. The schools that didn't have money for the kids to buy crayons they bought all the kids ipads and full packages of supplies so a lot of teachers are looking like; "WHUT THA FCUK?!?!?! Ya'll got money to buy iPads but can't foot the bill for basic supplies?!?!"

 

[spider705]

You did make a big assumption about teachers bouncing to other profession, etc... There are teachers who go into the urban areas to teach in those districts until they have their students loans forgiven but they usually bounce not to other professions but to suburban school districts. Those whom are unable to or can't hack the profession of teaching usually bounce to other professions.

You're right about one thing though and this is regardless of how much one makes. You have to have a passion for teaching.

My assumption was based on what I felt was the topic of the thread which was teachers bouncing and getting out of the profession.

I have subbed before... and I've also been a ref for a few years at the middle school and high school basketball levels... I also have those 2 family members along with a few friends that are teachers currently or that started off as teachers but went to another profession. I guess more than anything in speaking my truth because this is what I've seen A LOT.

Hell even my cousin told me to teach to get the student loans off my back then go do something else. And my neighbor and his wife both taught just long enough to meet that student loan forgiveness criteria then moved to other professions. Neither shared the passion my brother has for teaching, as teaching is the only career I've ever known him to have.

It's not just about not being able to hack it... for some it's simply a means to an end...

 

[spider705]

Nearly all public schools in CA have salary schedules that reach to the 6 figure range. They usually cap around 120-125k. It just takes 10+ years with the district, grad degrees, and usually some credits. People like to claim that teachers don't make money. They make good bread, especially when you consider the 80k+ is made with every holiday taken, teacher days (no kids), and the summer off. Working 8 1/2 or 9 months out of the year and pulling a full salary isn't a bad setup.

Honest question here...

What's a $125k salary in San Francisco compared to the cost of living there?

 

[0utsyder]

Nearly all public schools in CA have salary schedules that reach to the 6 figure range. They usually cap around 120-125k. It just takes 10+ years with the district, grad degrees, and usually some credits. People like to claim that teachers don't make money. They make good bread, especially when you consider the 80k+ is made with every holiday taken, teacher days (no kids), and the summer off. Working 8 1/2 or 9 months out of the year and pulling a full salary isn't a bad setup.

Homie the amount of schooling that you need to be in THAT group is damn near doctorate level and what districts are those? That 6 figures gets eaten up quick if you live in LA or San Fran.

 

[Pow Wow]

Homie the amount of schooling that you need to be in THAT group is damn near doctorate level and what districts are those? That 6 figures gets eaten up quick if you live in LA or San Fran.

No it isn't. It's a master's degree + bull credits/classes typically offered by the district.

 

[Pow Wow]

Honest question here...

What's a $125k salary in San Francisco compared to the cost of living there?

Obviously not much, but take that same salary and move it to MoVal or in the I.E. and you'd be doing fine.

 

[BKF]

My assumption was based on what I felt was the topic of the thread which was teachers bouncing and getting out of the profession.

I have subbed before... and I've also been a ref for a few years at the middle school and high school basketball levels... I also have those 2 family members along with a few friends that are teachers currently or that started off as teachers but went to another profession. I guess more than anything in speaking my truth because this is what I've seen A LOT.

Hell even my cousin told me to teach to get the student loans off my back then go do something else. And my neighbor and his wife both taught just long enough to meet that student loan forgiveness criteria then moved to other professions. Neither shared the passion my brother has for teaching, as teaching is the only career I've ever known him to have.

It's not just about not being able to hack it... for some it's simply a means to an end...

I can't speak for where you live but where I live a good number of people who go into teaching regardless of their passion or lack thereof are gone within three years because that is the probationary period (which just so happens to coincide with the loan forgiven timeline) and they are tapped on the shoulders and told this aint for you. So even those folks who just go into it for the loan forgiveness don't all make it to that point.
BTW a lot of teachers end up married and their husbands tend to make good money. That allows for even the people who don't make a great deal of money to continue teaching (even in tough districts) because that is their passion. God bless them...

 

[4 Dimensional]

Teachers only doing it to avoid them student loans... once they get that commitment covered they bounce to other professions...

There's no money in teaching... you have to have a passion for doing it, have a spouse that's the breadwinner, or it's likely a stop gap until something better comes along

Yep! Public service loan forgiveness.

A lot of teachers from NC moved to Houston because of a better teaching salary. Plus, I think Houston offered a relocation program for the cause.

 

[0utsyder]

No it isn't. It's a master's degree + bull credits/classes typically offered by the district.

Sorry, you are correct. I forgot the hierarchy of Bachelor, Master, Doctorate. That is still a lot of schooling to reach that point in a state that has a high cost of living

 

[BKF]

Sorry, you are correct. I forgot the hierarchy of Bachelor, Master, Doctorate. That is still a lot of schooling to reach that point in a state that has a high cost of living

Is it really? I mean they've already graduated from college with a bachelors degree and they go back to school (now it's can even be done online) to get their masters (paid for by the district) and we're talking about a possible bump of 20 to 40k in pay.

 

[0utsyder]

Is it really? I mean they've already graduated from college with a bachelors degree and they go back to school (now it's can even be done online) to get their masters (paid for by the district) and we're talking about a possible bump of 20 to 40k in pay.

What's the old saying if it were easy, then everybody would be doing it. You just aren't going back to school, you're working, taking care of family, having some form of social life, etc...

 

[godofwine]

My cousin is a director of athletics for the school district she teaches in after being a coach and vice principal for a school within that district.

Her husband is the superintendent of that district after being a principal for a high school here in Houston.

Speak on what you know and don't make assumptions.

Tell him

 

[Snyckerbar76]

Great thread! Believe it or not, it is very possible to price yourself out of the classroom after enough years/ degrees. School districts absolutely do not want people with doctorate degrees in the classroom because it destroys the tiny percentage of money the district sets aside for teacher salaries. If you have a doctorate and refuse to go into administration, you will be written up/ professionally harassed until you quit out of frustration and anger. Then, the district will hire three new teachers with the salary they were paying you.

Source: Multiple educators and educational administrators in my family (middle/ high school). I've lost count of the times that my relatives have told me that the absolute best students in their classes look at their classmates, look them dead in the eye, and say, "Ain't no way I'm teaching when I grow up."

 

[mailboxpimp]

My cousin is a director of athletics for the school district she teaches in after being a coach and vice principal for a school within that district.

Her husband is the superintendent of that district after being a principal for a high school here in Houston.

Speak on what you know and don't make assumptions.

I dnt give a fuck about what ya family do.... none if that shit means a fucking thing to me.
I'll say whatever the fuck I want to say however I want to say it.

I have several family member who work in the school system @ various levels.... i used to teach elementary & middle school.

Shut the fuck up & stop talking about shit you've never done.

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