Rosenberg argues with Papoose about Pap's Kendrick Diss

[robfmnola]

East Coast vs West Coast feud back on.....

Bruh the way these NY rappers and NY niggas on the board are responding to a simple ass step your game up challenge...they lost the battle and the war. No fuckin comprehension.

Except for Santana. The rest need to change their tampon.

 

[chillwillwonka]

This shit right here in a nut shell goes to show how/why NYC lost the rap throne to other regions. The fuckin radio and and rap establishment abandoned "local" artists.

Cause them dude stop innovating and got boring as hell with the production and repetitive with the rhymes.

NY niggas started losing when the other regions that have been historically blocked from signing to labels, started their own.

After 50 cent brought a southern swagger to NY, when was the last time a ny artist did something groundbreaking?

I'll wait...

*grabs a sandwich*

 

[Black Sexxxploitation]

Only niggaz who gonna bring NY back are tha 90s niggaz.

That's the problem. When all else fails, we keep relying on our history in this game to save us from irrelevance. That shit doesn't hold up in the current era. 90's era NYC rappers have no place whatsoever in this battle. It's not their fight. They've already cemented their legacies and have nothing to prove. It wouldn't mean SHIT for Nas, Jay, or one of the golden era greats to respond. It's time for the current generation to step up or sit fuck down. PERIOD.

Kendrick has effectively drawn a line in the sand. What's more, he's done so in a very subversive and clever way. The KONY line actually serves a dual purpose. He's challenging our Hip-Hop mythology, while at the same time further cementing that same myth. He respects that era, and what the KONY title USED to mean (heavy emphasis on "USED TO"). It don't mean shit now,. K Dot offered a shout out and threw a life line. It's not a diss. It's challenge that is fully in keeping with the true spirit of Hip-Hop.

Yet, in typical NYC fashion, some of my more effeminate brethren can't see the forest for the trees. Their egos keep getting in the way. They perceive any reference to the Big Apple by an outsider as a slight or a diss. Are you guys really THAT butthurt about this?

Personally, I don't think Papoose or even Joell has any business responding. They were not the intended targets. None of the current crop of NYC rappers are on K Dot's level. Period. End of story. If those cats can't step up and prove they are worthy of their forebears, then Kendrick really is King. As someone who's from the BX, I don't have a problem with that. Neither do Big Daddy Kane and Talib Kweli, from what I can tell.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

After listening to all of the response records, the common denominator is that all of the artist that responded to Kendrick are angry about not being included in the list of rappers that Kendrick "called out". These response records reek of ego maniacal tirades hidden under the guise of protecting New York.

This is how I'm lookin' at it too. Niggas ego's are hurt.

 

[CoalhouseWalkerJr]

kendrick got these new york niggas hot

word!

 

[2 ONE 3]

Bruh the way these NY rappers and NY niggas on the board are responding to a simple ass step your game up challenge...they lost the battle and the war. No fuckin comprehension.

Except for Santana. The rest need to change their tampon.

 

[HeathCliff]

LA always brings tha bitch up outta NY

 

[2 ONE 3]

 

[HeathCliff]

Is he lying though?

 

[Black Sexxxploitation]

Sometimes it's better to throw in the fucking towel and cut your losses. If A$AP Rocky and French Montana are the best that we (NYC) can do at this point, then Kendrick deserves the crown. Papoose and Ortiz had their shot. It's a wrap. Maybe if we can admit those inconvenient truths, the NY rap scene can start to rebuild itself from the ground up. I'm sorry, but I just can't back our current line up. Nor can I back dudes who are merely throwbacks to 90's greats. I already have my ipod stocked with Wu-Tang, Boot Camp Click, Nas, etc. I don't need cheap knock offs.

 

[wildlover85]

Pipe down, old man. Hip-hop is run by Jews & corporate record labels.

Your are right!

 

[don_incognito]

Pap made an ok little song. If K. can say what he wants, why does Rosenberg want to control what Pap says? Pap aint the king of anything right now, but I agree that radio should stop dictating what fans should like.

 

[Spectrum]

You don't even give him a king shot... based on all around ?

a prime jayz got busy

He has at the least 3 certified classics

Reasonable Doubt

Blueprint

Black album

not much artist can claim that

I guess it just depends on what everyone means by "king"....if we mean on the MC level... i just dont think Jay fucks with Kool G, Rakim, Kane, Nas, or Biggie...and those are just the bigger names... I think Jay is over-rated as an MC... and though he does spit some fire here and there...most of his shit is watered down and average because he's more concerned with selling records than anything else... just my opinion

 

[Spectrum]

You heard how everyone was genuinely laughing ? that was that gut wrenching laugh lol


Rosenberg was like I support ny hip hop more than you .. I'm in clubs sometimes with 23 people and I don't see you

P

muthafuckas were

 

[geech]

Nigga please. That Holy grail was poop compared to Mad City. Hov is the king of rappers turned businessmen, NOT RAP.

That madd city shit was a 1 listen album the fuck outta here nobody want to here 4 personalitys and wild voice changes on every song that nigga is wild wack Hov still holds the crown fuck boy Hov is the mayweather of this shit!

 

[Better]

Its not about not responding.Its about responding without you being in your feelings all butt hurt
LA always brings tha bitch up outta NY.

Man, it's not that NYC cats haven't brought it on themselves...

...but NYC is a city that people are always looking to 'take down a notch'.

Dude was right in what he said. Nothing New Yorkers do, or don't do, is going to work.

New York City and London are considered to be the top two alpha cities in the world, with Tokyo and Paris not far behind. I don't know about London, but New York wear it's status on it's sleeve...

...and when New Yorkers leave NYC and move to other cities, they have to make it known they are from NYC and how much NYC is better than where they currently live.

So, call it what it is...

...people are tired of hearing about New York City. Kendrick is gettin' excessive praise for this because he went at NYC in a very clever way. At least that's the perception.

I listened to Kendrick's shit, and I thought it was decent enough. But, people love to see New Yorkers squirm. No other city has so many people rooting against it.

LA is big enough to get under New York's skin, but still dealing with that same inferiority complex - so LA niggas are enjoying seeing Goliath struggle to get it's footing.

Look at Mrs. Shemar Moore in here taking shots at NYC like the faggot she is.

 

[LSN]

if niggas ignore shit ,"new york been soft since snoop.....". if nigga reply,"niggas is sensitive"... shit is comical.

watching these threads is more revealing of how emotional dudes are against ny on some "you always picked on me growing up" type shit

 

[Better]

...and Jay-Z, at best, is an above average MC. Jay-Z benefited from being in an era where popularity and record sales bolsters ones status as an MC.

The reality is, he's just good enough for the KONY moniker to not be complete bullshit. Once again, as I said before, in NYC...

...it's about lyrics. That's the standard.

As the spotlight shifted from NYC, lyricism became less and less important. Now that NYC is a non-factor, lyrics mean shit in mainstream hip hop.

...and you can criticize NYC for wanting to go back to the 90s, but that's not confined to hip hop. Shit, in basketball, dudes always talk about the same era. Dudes want the glory days back.

Frankly, I don't know what hip hop has left to say that it hasn't already said.

 

[BDR]

Rosenberg have an underground hip hop show in every Sunday in hot 97... So he does support true hip hop

Pap full of shit

 

[Rocky Miavia]

Kendrick got these new york niggas hot

Then they need to stop bitching and crying like little girls and do what REAL HIP HOP rappers do...make a response on wax, tape, cd, etc like cats did in the 80s-90s.

Today's rappers are bitchmade.

 

[MadWun]

Its not about not responding.Its about responding without you being in your feelings all butt hurt

LA always brings tha bitch up outta NY.

Is he lying though?

 

[woodchuck]

Man, it's not that NYC cats haven't brought it on themselves...

...but NYC is a city that people are always looking to 'take down a notch'.

Dude was right in what he said. Nothing New Yorkers do, or don't do, is going to work.

New York City and London are considered to be the top two alpha cities in the world, with Tokyo and Paris not far behind. I don't know about London, but New York wear it's status on it's sleeve...

...and when New Yorkers leave NYC and move to other cities, they have to make it known they are from NYC and how much NYC is better than where they currently live.

So, call it what it is...

...people are tired of hearing about New York City. Kendrick is gettin' excessive praise for this because he went at NYC in a very clever way. At least that's the perception.

I listened to Kendrick's shit, and I thought it was decent enough. But, people love to see New Yorkers squirm. No other city has so many people rooting against it.

LA is big enough to get under New York's skin, but still dealing with that same inferiority complex - so LA niggas are enjoying seeing Goliath struggle to get it's footing.

Look at Mrs. Shemar Moore in here taking shots at NYC like the faggot she is.

THIS is one of the main problems NYC has when it comes to perception. In fact, it's the ONLY real problem I have with NY'ers. I could see if it was a kid that had to move with his parents, but these are grown ass people acting like this, but you never see them at the airport trying to go back home. And the hypocrisy. Other cities cheer for Kobe, and it's because they're shitting on the home and don't know any better. NY'ers cheer for Kobe, and it's because "they're knowledgeable about basketball". You guys can't be mad when people in other regions like when NYC is seemingly "struggling". I put struggle in quotation marks, because it really ain't that serious. If you're gonna shout out your haters, don't get mad when they holla back. That being said, The ATL is my heart, but I LOVE NYC. Half of my family's there and I go back every chance I get.

 

[brickwall92]

Man, it's not that NYC cats haven't brought it on themselves...

...but NYC is a city that people are always looking to 'take down a notch'.

Dude was right in what he said. Nothing New Yorkers do, or don't do, is going to work.

New York City and London are considered to be the top two alpha cities in the world, with Tokyo and Paris not far behind. I don't know about London, but New York wear it's status on it's sleeve...

...and when New Yorkers leave NYC and move to other cities, they have to make it known they are from NYC and how much NYC is better than where they currently live.

So, call it what it is...

...people are tired of hearing about New York City. Kendrick is gettin' excessive praise for this because he went at NYC in a very clever way. At least that's the perception.

I listened to Kendrick's shit, and I thought it was decent enough. But, people love to see New Yorkers squirm. No other city has so many people rooting against it.

LA is big enough to get under New York's skin, but still dealing with that same inferiority complex - so LA niggas are enjoying seeing Goliath struggle to get it's footing.

Look at Mrs. Shemar Moore in here taking shots at NYC like the faggot she is.

Does this still happen though ? I know in the 90's cats did that .but what about the people who 20 and under ? are they still on that I'm from ny shit ? I think that's dying

plus new york was looked at as much cooler back than... now everything can touch anywhere at the same time... in ny clothes use to come there first etc.. now ? those same clothes come to the same stores everywhere...there's still some exclusive shit in nyc ,but that gap is very close now

then ny isn't running hiphop on the mainstream level like it use to... so that's another non cool factor compared to the 90's


yeah tevin campbell always likes to take his shots at nyc... them niggas got a real inferiority complex going

 

[kefta]

i agree with pap

 

[BDR]

Look at Mrs. Shemar Moore in here taking shots at NYC like the faggot she is.

Are you surprised by how giddy that faggit nigga been acting?

This the same bitch ass nigga who was here in NYC last year on canal street looking like the bitch ass tourist he was all happy to be here and shit

Clown ass nigga from the day he joined this board and got exposed/ocked to now.

Ole eharmony ass nigga advertising his waves and chopper suit to a bunch of dudes

 

[evolution81]

don't call out ny if you're not prepared to deal with he consequences...ny is the birthplace of hip hop..you cant say you're the king of a city if you're not from here PERIOD!

 

[EPDC]

don't call out ny if you're not prepared to deal with he consequences...ny is the birthplace of hip hop..you cant say you're the king of a city if you're not from here PERIOD!

He also said "King of the coast"....how many west coast rappers have their panties in a bunch? I'm from NYS, lived in NYC and grew up loving NY Hip Hop, but these NY cats (outside Joell Ortiz) are really acting like a bunch of bitches.

 

[LSN]

....how many west coast rappers have their panties in a bunch?

why would they...when there was a passing of the crown ceremony on stage w/ kendrick + respected top west coast acts?

 

[EPDC]

why would they...when there was a passing of the crown ceremony on stage w/ kendrick + respected top west coast acts?

There was, I didn't know. That said, Crooked I is a better rapper than Kendrick (in my mind), and I know a lot of people may agree. Was he at this "passing of the torch ceremony? In not, then he should have something to say.....perhaps he's not a bitch like most of todays NY rap heads though.

 

[LSN]

There was, I didn't know. That said, Crooked I is a better rapper than Kendrick (in my mind), and I know a lot of people may agree. Was he at this "passing of the torch ceremony? In not, then he should have something to say.....perhaps he's not a bitch like most of todays NY rap heads though.

I'll see if I can find the video...it was posted here a minute ago...actually I just finished reading the rest of your comments + won't even bother...you already have your mind made up

 

[woodchuck]

I'll see if I can find the video...it was posted here a minute ago...actually I just finished reading the rest of your comments + won't even bother...you already have your mind made up

Didn't Snoop participate in that ceremony? I think I recall seeing something about it.

 

[EPDC]

I'll see if I can find the video...it was posted here a minute ago...actually I just finished reading the rest of your comments + won't even bother...you already have your mind made up

 

[don_incognito]

The New York critics in here are also making a big deal out of nothing. It's not that deep.

A few cornball response songs don't make an east/west fued.

 

[Black Sexxxploitation]

Didn't Snoop participate in that ceremony? I think I recall seeing something about it.

Yeah, Snoop participated. Talib Kweli talked about it in a recent video interview, when he was commenting on Kendrick's verse.

 

[LSN]

The New York critics in here are also making a big deal out of nothing. It's not that deep.

A few cornball response songs don't make an east/west fued.

exactly...dudes playing their cards too early...just wait til asap rocky respond ok I can't even type that w/o laughing