Obama says 'institutional constraints' kept him from commenting on killings of Black Americans

We knew Obama lives and operates ina. Totally different socioeconomic class than the majority of blacks in America so I don’t know what people expected here. I keep on saying class trumps race in a lot of areas but folks don’t listen.

from the moment I seen Obama in 07 or 06 I remember him debating Alan Keyes I knew they nigga was nothing like us. I actually felt Alan keys minus the Blanton coining for a job was more relatable than Obama.
 
We knew Obama lives and operates ina. Totally different socioeconomic class than the majority of blacks in America so I don’t know what people expected here. I keep on saying class trumps race in a lot of areas but folks don’t listen.

from the moment I seen Obama in 07 or 06 I remember him debating Alan Keyes I knew they nigga was nothing like us. I actually felt Alan keys minus the Blanton coining for a job was more relatable than Obama.
I think folk are missing what he is saying. Institionally this shit is rigged against black men. He’s saying it flat out. There was nothing he could do in 8 years to move the needle over 400 years. He’s right.
 
There have been many bills aimed at specific groups to address civil rights concerns as the Anti Asian bills does. Again, the focus here was about economic matters and as far as I know there has never been a bill that overtly has been progressed and categorically written and stated to specifically advantage one group over another. That is not to say the actual effect didn't give one group a leg up but I have never seen a law enacted that specifically stated it was for white or black people only. Seems many wanted Obama to do just that not realizing the consequences of doing so.

dude your responses have been reasonable and well explained and you may as welll be talking to megan kelly's asshole for the good it will do.

these guys aren't about reasonable debate its just scattershot bitching and moaning designed specifically to discourage and demoralize with no viable alternative offered.
 
I think folk are missing what he is saying. Institionally this shit is rigged against black men. He’s saying it flat out. There was nothing he could do in 8 years to move the needle over 400 years. He’s right.

it is rigged but with that power if you really about it you go to jail like a G.

I know the game is rigged they need blacks to be blacks they don’t want us doing better.
 
dude your responses have been reasonable and well explained and you may as welll be talking to megan kelly's asshole for the good it will do.

these guys aren't about reasonable debate its just scattershot bitching and moaning designed specifically to discourage and demoralize with no viable alternative offered.
Bruh... The "hit house nigha will holla" ... He hollered.
 
He did speak on the killings of Tamir Rice and Trayvon Martin, even going so far as to publicly say that that Trayvon could have been his son. He did speak on the killing of Michael Brown and Alton Sterling. I would just like to know what more his detractors believe he could have done in addition to referring all three to the Justice Department for investigation. People forget in these cases a President is constrained by states jurisdictional authority and able to do only so much, and a black President facing a backlash from whites thinking he's pro black and blacks thinking he's not black enough even more so.

People react simplistically to complex situations and become angry when what they feel should happen doesn't and instead put a face to their disappointment and in this case blame Obama with no regard for the real machinations at play . :hmm:
Yeah, okay... Like I said, some people have simplistic views and unrealistic solutions for every problem. I'd just ask you to rethink your comment that "A president can do what they want when they're in office; especially one who's secured his 2nd term". Nixon thought so too and had to resign even after winning re-election in a landside. :hmm:
He does speak out about pretty much everything. There are times where he probably should withhold his opinion.. especially being critical of the black community WITHOUT providing the context of how whatever situation was created in some sort by white supremacy. Let's not pretend he didn't say anything though.

And you'll never have a U.S. president do what you want as long as white people have a majority of the votes. That's not what politics is. That's why you have activists. That's their lane.
Trump didn't do that. Whites did. I hope yall aren't simple-minded enough to think that Obama could even remotely get away with the shit that Trump did. Biden can't even get away with the shit that Trump did. CACs have a special reverence for someone who boldly and explicitly protects white supremacy and that was the extension of credit that Trump got.
If you honestly think that the black man's hands weren't tied in any way, despite being leader of the First World, you have to be insane. Especially when a white Kennedy caught a bullet in his head for attempting to do the first thing. You must want to see a fallen leader dead. And that would have shook future people of color to try a position as commander in chief.

You must have forgotten what had happened when he spoke against Gates getting arrested at his own house.

I wonder what he would do to satisfy his critics. Biden is busy trying to reinstall policies the narcissistic Trump reversed.

I never expected him to undo any wrongs in the black community as we aren't as committed as our ancestors. The cop killing won't take an Obama. It could've taken a league of black athletes in solidarity to end the nonsense.

Us out of those sports arena could have ended the killer cops, it's not like athletes haven't taken a stand but separately, nah. They hushed LeBron for speaking up against China's strong arm tactics on Hong Kong.
Shit wasn't going to happen regardless. And you can't do that shit by executive order. The reality is that whites aren't going to support anything that explicitly realigns power away from whites to blacks. Obama understood that and even discussed it..which I was surprised he did (while in office). The problem is that he failed to use the bully pulpit to explicitly reveal the extent to which white supremacy permeates U.S. society.

The irony is that Whites used Obama himself to negate the existence of that structure.

Honestly, I have mixed feelings about the shit... because even though he took the easiest road... i'm not sure he could have done much anyway because you gotta have the votes in Congress to pass the laws and even white Democrats are loyal to white surpremcay.
This is the thing. You always have to look at the full context.

CACs were literally on tv saying it was an impeachable offense to wear a fucking tan suit. Like that's not a joke. Fox News was having "serious" debate for weeks at a time over that shit.
I don't know if I would go as far as to say he didn't do shit for black folks. I've posted lots of shit where he directly did things for black folks without having it explicitly named "for black" people. However, I agree with the last part. You can't really get the job unless you're willing to support white supremacy.

The Jeremiah Wright shit was the litmus test: Either you can campaign to run "our country" or you can be for all that black shit. That's literally what that was all about and he chose.
Harris did the same thing too. I think she answered a question saying "American is not a racist country". Now you can still give lots of examples of racism in the U.S. (which she does), but whites aren't going to vote for anyone that inherently believes the country is racist. They won't allow it. It's too much for them to deal with. Look at how they're acting over the 1619 Project. Whites aren't doing to deal with the "original sin" and how much it still permeates society.... because once you accept it's happened and exists, you then have to deal with it... and they aren't trying to fix that shit.
He lost how about that?
He played the game
a racist got elected
locked more kids up
probably did generations worth of damage to everything about this country
put stress on all of our daily lives we'll be paying for forever
but hey obama played the game!

you need to bow out of this conversation.

ain't no parlor tricks on how to play the game to get an outcome that's favorable for black people trust me i know this.
You are not understanding that Trump was allowed to do the things he did because the majority of the country thought what he was doing was correct.

When Trump went to war for white supremacy, he had an entire country behind him.
Exactly, he measured his words to often when addressing black folks. But understand if he said we have a problem with policing and it's infiltrated with kkk, Faux news would have dialed up the rhetoric to 17 instead of 13.

They are delusional about fucking Tim Tebow abilities, you think they believe the stats the government put out about white militants? After that information came out, who did they focus on? Black identity Extremists.

They used to hold cac's somewhat responsible. Now we have congressmen saying the attack on the Capitol was basically a tour. :lol: :lol: :lol:

We haven't even hit bottom yet, cause old ass Joe is still trying to work with people that follow Trump.
Exactly, the election of Obama shook them to their soul. They don't want change, hell they argue against electric cars, 5g and solar energy
I don't think either makes a difference in terms of what he would have gotten done legislatively.

However, the POTUS putting certain things on the historical record would have made a difference in the future.

For instance, he knew reparations would never have been passed.. especially with him as potus. However, he should have said that America absolutely needs to do it. He was always in the weeds of the policy or the fact that there weren't votes for it. But you should have made the fucking MORAL argument for it.. especially in your second term. He could have said.. I won't be able to do it.. maybe the next POTUS won't be able to do it either. But American is obligated to pay reparations. If a black POTUS can't say it, we're fucked. He couldn't get it passed, but he should have made the fucking argument to the country.

Now you got CACs not even wanting racism to be taught in school at all.

Obama wanted to do his job well but he also did miss the opportunity to really use the bully pulpit as a black man. You're the POTUS and you do have institutional constraints, but you're the first BLACK potus on a racist ass country. You can't miss your opportunity to point out the evil nature of the system.

Now he understands he missed the moment. Writing about it in books won't even meant shit compared to what it could have meant with him saying it as potus.. even though it would not have changed anything legilslatively.
They just want to run their mouth just to say "I told them white folks" only to have everything they worked for destroyed in an instance. Obama was never going to win that battle because he had zero support. No one was going to stand next to Obama in that fight.

It would have been a layup for whites to destroy Obama.
What I'm saying is that Trump only sold what whites wanted to buy anyway. That wasn't a legislative accomplishment. It wasn't even something that was directly related to his position as POTUS. He just used to bully pulpit to make something that he'd always made into personal issues (I don't think even cares about this one though) into national issues to help his political narrative. It was food for his base. He didn't "do anything" though. All he did was keep Kap out of a job and cause the NFL a bunch of headaches. I know this isn't what yall are pitching as an accomplishment?

Trump didn't make any of this shit a hot-button issue. They always were.. he just amplified it because that's what he does well. Trump didn't give two shits about that.... he just knew his "people" did. I feel like most of yall still don't understand Trump.. even after all of this.

I swear if you followed Breitbart or other right wing channels, you could predict what Trump would make into a national issue next. He was just a funnel. I bet you he literally had Stephen Miller pitching him things to "make into issues" that served their politics. They'd already been bubbling under the surface and then he'd take them and amplify them. Trump was a "Remix" artist... take that take that.
But here’s the deal — the real deal — there actually wasn’t a two year supermajority.


This timeline shows the facts.



President Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009 with just 58 Senators to support his agenda.

He should have had 59, but Republicans contested Al Franken’s election in Minnesota and he didn’t get seated for seven months.

The President’s cause was helped in April when Pennsylvania’s Republican Senator Arlen Specter switched parties.

That gave the President 59 votes — still a vote shy of the super majority.

But one month later, Democratic Senator Byrd of West Virginia was hospitalized and was basically out of commission.

So while the President’s number on paper was 59 Senators — he was really working with just 58 Senators.

Then in July, Minnesota Senator Al Franken was finally sworn in, giving President Obama the magic 60 — but only in theory, because Senator Byrd was still out.

In August, Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died and the number went back down to 59 again until Paul Kirk temporarily filled Kennedy’s seat in September.

Any pretense of a supermajority ended on February 4, 2010 when Republican Scott Brown was sworn into the seat Senator Kennedy once held.Do you see a two-year supermajority?

Yeah. I think we discussed this in another thread too. I think the Dems do a bad job at messaging... this myth has been allowed to survive with very little pushback and now it's taken as "fact" to make it seem like it was dem ineptitude instead of republican obstruction... wild
The truth is being the first black anything comes with a lot of constraints (includes constraints we may put on ourselves).
Being a public official and being an activist are two completely different animals and people were expecting Obama to be an activist. It's what we thought would happen (something we never thought would happen) once a black person was elected president.

You'll never see a Malcolm X, Kwame Ture, etc....elected as president.
If by collateral you mean black people as well as others benefit from a policy what is wrong with that? In this day and age it would be political suicide for Obama or any President to propose legislation that was specifically and exclusively for one group or another. Can you imagine a Bill being pushed in Congress that specifically stated it was for whites only? As for legislation progressed for homosexuals as far as I know any that has passed had to do with them receiving civil rights enjoyed by everyone else.

You'd be politically naive if you think that in this divided and racist nation tax paying white people wouldn't revolt if their money was being siphoned off and earmarked for blacks only. That is why reparations is a pipe dream. You might say so what let them be angry. But you have to realize that anger metastasizes into more angry white people showing up at the polls and the subsequent election of those who don't want any progressive program that would mostly benefit blacks and other people of color.

Thankfully Obama was a pragmatist who recognized in the face of total bigoted Republican obstructionism any hope of getting anything passed that would benefit us primarily required political skill, negotiation and the realization that no one ever gets all they want when they want and rightly or wrongly economic fairness in this country comes incrementally and all you can do is keep on pushing. :hmm:
There have been many bills aimed at specific groups to address civil rights concerns as the Anti Asian bills does. Again, the focus here was about economic matters and as far as I know there has never been a bill that overtly has been progressed and categorically written and stated to specifically advantage one group over another. That is not to say the actual effect didn't give one group a leg up but I have never seen a law enacted that specifically stated it was for white or black people only. Seems many wanted Obama to do just that not realizing the consequences of doing so.
dude your responses have been reasonable and well explained and you may as welll be talking to megan kelly's asshole for the good it will do.

these guys aren't about reasonable debate its just scattershot bitching and moaning designed specifically to discourage and demoralize with no viable alternative offered.

hmmmm... good read
@shaddyvillethug sez to sticky this ! its very revealing as always
 
because even though he took the easiest road... i'm not sure he could have done much anyway because you gotta have the votes in Congress to pass the laws and even white Democrats are loyal to white supremacy.
This is something that I wish the black democrats on here would realize one day before its too late.
This is the exact reason why I went independent. I started seeing and hearing white republicans and white democrats sound more and more alike on issues pertaining to black folk and what's worse - I observed white democrats GO SILENT ON BLACK ISSUES when their voices could have aided situations. Its not that they were unaware, its that it wasn't an election year, so they had nothing to gain.
Fuck all of 'em.

Even now, I see white liberals like Bill Maher slowly turning into old republicans (seemingly every time he opens his mouth). Eventually, they all start to acknowledge and embrace their supremacy.
Fuck all politicians and the medias that support them.
Do for self and if others want to join, do so. We don't need them; we just need to do shit for ourselves and NOT INCLUDE THEM.
 
This is something that I wish the black democrats on here would realize one day before its too late.
This is the exact reason why I went independent. I started seeing and hearing white republicans and white democrats sound more and more alike on issues pertaining to black folk and what's worse - I observed white democrats GO SILENT ON BLACK ISSUES when their voices could have aided situations. Its not that they were unaware, its that it wasn't an election year, so they had nothing to gain.
Fuck all of 'em.

Even now, I see white liberals like Bill Maher slowly turning into old republicans (seemingly every time he opens his mouth). Eventually, they all start to acknowledge and embrace their supremacy.
Fuck all politicians and the medias that support them.
Do for self and if others want to join, do so. We don't need them; we just need to do shit for ourselves and NOT INCLUDE THEM.
I think one of their main reasons is fear from the Republicans on the other side.
 
If was not just killings of blacks in America. What our tax dollars paid for was to genocide the blacks in Libya. Even to this day they are being sold into slavery or killed their because of our love for white power. The president seat is one of satan's highest seat. Cynthia McKinney learned that the hard way.
 



Obama had an agenda , your black asses were not part of it ! FACTS !!!!!

are you a moron?? no seriously...you don't hear the edits in that speech??

rememeber the Shirley Sherrod incident?? Where breitbart cacs posted a edited version of her speech to make it look like she was racist...check the video


and now today they can do video fakes and all kinds of shit.. :smh: :smh: :smh: :smh:

Come on dude...don't play into that shit

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are you a moron?? no seriously...you don't hear the edits in that speech??

rememeber the Shirley Sherrod incident?? Where breitbart cacs posted a edited version of her speech to make it look like she was racist...check the video


and now today they can do video fakes and all kinds of shit.. :smh: :smh: :smh: :smh:

Come on dude...don't play into that shit

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I be wondering on these bgol streets most these days now, Trump n that mindset unleashed a monster into the public sphere unlike anyone or anything b4... it's not only bgol but in bgol defense this is porn board..so ..:dunno:

 
are you a moron?? no seriously...you don't hear the edits in that speech??
why dont you go sit in a corner and ask more stupid questions of the BGOL community , like " Which day do you cut your toenails on ....Monday or Tuesday ?

The edits you're referring to is the video replaying. It's very easy to read his lips and confirm that he did say everything in the video .

Name calling , it really funny when the same immature people keep doing it . I guess I'm supposed to be shook by it .
 
Yes, there are a lot of undercover homos on this site. They tried to put that homo shit on me with reverse psychology and with the help of that semen swallowing lying faggot bitch, Dr Truth, and his corny ass followers who get on their knees every time that cocksucker post.

My thing is I see shit for what it is no matter who it is. You can't never lie to yourself cause you'll eventually get a wake up call.

The reality is Obama was and still is annoyed by Black people. He helped every other group and these are facts. They all think black people are stupid. Everybody thinks black people are stupid.

When Trump was in their shit was in our face and I can respect that. Cause when shit is clearly in your face, you can't be frustrated or confused. You will know exactly what steps you'll have to do to get success.


HA
 
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