Obama says 'institutional constraints' kept him from commenting on killings of Black Americans

This is the thing. You always have to look at the full context.

CACs were literally on tv saying it was an impeachable offense to wear a fucking tan suit. Like that's not a joke. Fox News was having "serious" debate for weeks at a time over that shit.
I never expected him to do shit for black people. That job doesn't allow that. But I also don't understand the admiration for him just because he's kinda black. He did what every president before him did...carry the water for white supremacy and big business. Oh and kill brown people overseas
 
I never expected him to do shit for black people. That job doesn't allow that.

I don't know if I would go as far as to say he didn't do shit for black folks. I've posted lots of shit where he directly did things for black folks without having it explicitly named "for black" people. However, I agree with the last part. You can't really get the job unless you're willing to support white supremacy.

The Jeremiah Wright shit was the litmus test: Either you can campaign to run "our country" or you can be for all that black shit. That's literally what that was all about and he chose.
 
I never expected him to do shit for black people. That job doesn't allow that. But I also don't understand the admiration for him just because he's kinda black. He did what every president before him did...carry the water for white supremacy and big business. Oh and kill brown people overseas

Harris did the same thing too. I think she answered a question saying "American is not a racist country". Now you can still give lots of examples of racism in the U.S. (which she does), but whites aren't going to vote for anyone that inherently believes the country is racist. They won't allow it. It's too much for them to deal with. Look at how they're acting over the 1619 Project. Whites aren't doing to deal with the "original sin" and how much it still permeates society.... because once you accept it's happened and exists, you then have to deal with it... and they aren't trying to fix that shit.
 
I never expected him to do shit for black people. That job doesn't allow that. But I also don't understand the admiration for him just because he's kinda black. He did what every president before him did...carry the water for white supremacy and big business. Oh and kill brown people overseas
This is all I'm stressing. If you don't feel as if there's no admiration for someone of color to confidently run for the presidency even though he happens to be black isn't an accomplishment in itself....

Before him, no blacks I knew thought it was even achievable. In fact, it's harder to be an Asian male pornstar in America.

I'm elated for Harris but she rode the Biden campaign. What black rights spokesman would have made it into office? Shirley Chisholm? Jesse Jackson? Who gave today's people of color confidence to run for the presidency today? Stop kidding yourselves. Fucking African dictators are 100 percent black rights and all I see Chinese benign takeover.
 
If anything Trump proved all of this to be some shit that ain't true lol.

A president can do what they want when they're in office
Especially one who's secured his 2nd term.
And especially on his way out of his 2nd term.
That's like last week of college with your cap, gown, stole, and tickets printed and you got an A on all of your finals already.
True, but imagine if he would have gone ham how much crazier Trump would have been? Unless he was willing to use the Justice Department to slander trump in order for Hillary to win.

Hindsight is a muthafucka
 
I'm not team Obama hate
He did a lot he was a great president he's halfway decent as a person


He missed the mark with being vocal in supporting black Americans

Things just didn't sit right with me

Not actually speaking up but also the whole drug push for relief when horse hit white folks is when I became disgruntled.


If anyone knows how much drugs effect and tear apart a community it's a community organizer from Chicago but had no money for that then found billions to keep d money out of Delaware
You would be very naïve. To think that you could have been on the level of a president and speak out without any backing is not only naïve but foolish.
Trump was only allowed to say or do the things he did because he had the backing
 
You would be very naïve. To think that you could have been on the level of a president and speak out without any backing is not only naïve but foolish.
Trump was only allowed to say or do the things he did because he had the backing

I'm not naive

What did Obama need to be backed his last 2 years he could ever serve as president?

Thanks
 
If anything Trump proved all of this to be some shit that ain't true lol.

A president can do what they want when they're in office
Especially one who's secured his 2nd term.
And especially on his way out of his 2nd term.
That's like last week of college with your cap, gown, stole, and tickets printed and you got an A on all of your finals already.
You would have to have the backing of congress to do what Trump did. Obama never had that.
 
If anything Trump proved all of this to be some shit that ain't true lol.

A president can do what they want when they're in office
Especially one who's secured his 2nd term.
And especially on his way out of his 2nd term.
That's like last week of college with your cap, gown, stole, and tickets printed and you got an A on all of your finals already.

^^^^^
 
My question is what was the president going to do? He can't influence juries. He can't try the cases. That shit ends up being local. I think that for the most part, when we have one of those instances where the local DA needs to look into the PD, it should be taken over by federal prosecutors. The problem is that the shit is happening so much, you would almost need a whole division or department. Maybe they can take some of that Space Force money.
He did speak on the killings of Tamir Rice and Trayvon Martin, even going so far as to publicly say that that Trayvon could have been his son. He did speak on the killing of Michael Brown and Alton Sterling. I would just like to know what more his detractors believe he could have done in addition to referring all three to the Justice Department for investigation. People forget in these cases a President is constrained by states jurisdictional authority and able to do only so much, and a black President facing a backlash from whites thinking he's pro black and blacks thinking he's not black enough even more so.

People react simplistically to complex situations and become angry when what they feel should happen doesn't and instead put a face to their disappointment and in this case blame Obama with no regard for the real machinations at play . :hmm:

use it all
trump used his rally's to try and overthrow the government so
shit
minus whale
Correct, @largebillsonlyplease

For one thing, he could have acknowledged publicly that there was a systemic problem that reached deep into police departments, corrupt grand jury systems, officers writing false reports, commanding officers covering shit up and corrupt DAs. He could have cited statistics on how Black unarmed people are disproportionately killed by cops relative to whites.

He could have NOT continuously harped on 99 percent of police being good upstanding citizens who risk their lives every day, and it being only1% of cops who are bad committing the murders who are the problem. That's a blatant lie. City bus drivers and construction workers risk their lives every day more than cops and no one tries to canonize them as saints. Fuck that shit.

In short, he could have TOLD THE TRUTH instead of gaslighting America in order to not shake up whitey.
 
I'm not naive

What did Obama need to be backed his last 2 years he could ever serve as president?

Thanks
The people got off with crimes of killing innocent blacks because the majority of America did not think a crime was committed. Its naïve to think saying something when the majority of America agreed that the killings where justified.

You can't play the game that way. That would be like a white president trying to sell to black that their is no systemic racism.
 
Obama signs 'Blue Alert' law to protect police



WASHINGTON — President Obama has signed into law a measure that will require instant nationwide "Blue Alerts" to warn about threats to police officers and help track down the suspects who carry them out.

The Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu National Blue Alert Act of 2015 is named for the two New York Police Department officers killed in an ambush attack last December.

The assailant, Ismaaiyl Brinsley, had shot his girlfriend earlier in the day, and then threatened on his Instagram account to kill police officers in retaliation for the recent police killings in Ferguson, Mo. and New York City. But that information never made it to New York.

"They were serving their community with great honor and dedication and courage, and all of New York grieved and all of the nation grieved," Obama said in an Oval Office signing ceremony with the families of the slain officers. "It's important for us not only to honor their memory, it's also important for us to make sure that we do everything we can to help ensure the safety of our police officers when they're in the line of duty."

The law requires the Justice Department to create a notification system relating to assaults on police officers, officers who are missing in the line of duty, and credible treats against law enforcement. The system is modeled after Amber Alerts for abducted children and Silver Alerts for missing seniors.

It's the 12th bill Obama has signed into law so far this year.

Obama called the bill "the best of a bipartisan support for law enforcement." It was so uncontroversial that it passed both the House and the Senate by voice vote.
 
The people got off with crimes of killing innocent blacks because the majority of America did not think a crime was committed. Its naïve to think saying something when the majority of America agreed that the killings where justified.

You can't play the game that way. That would be like a white president trying to sell to black that their is no systemic racism.

He lost how about that?
He played the game
a racist got elected
locked more kids up
probably did generations worth of damage to everything about this country
put stress on all of our daily lives we'll be paying for forever
but hey obama played the game!

you need to bow out of this conversation.

ain't no parlor tricks on how to play the game to get an outcome that's favorable for black people trust me i know this.
 
Correct, @largebillsonlyplease

For one thing, he could have acknowledged publicly that there was a systemic problem that reached deep into police departments, corrupt grand jury systems, officers writing false reports, commanding officers covering shit up and corrupt DAs. He could have cited statistics on how Black unarmed people are disproportionately killed by cops relative to whites.

He could have NOT continuously harped on 99 percent of police being good upstanding citizens who risk their lives every day, and it being only1% of cops who are bad committing the murders who are the problem. That's a blatant lie. City bus drivers and construction workers risk their lives every day more than cops and no one tries to canonize them as saints. Fuck that shit.

In short, he could have TOLD THE TRUTH instead of gaslighting America in order to not shake up whitey.

He cared more about them than us and now he's reflecting and trying to protect his image as we've become more radical

there was a time on here I was called a "militant" as an insult
fast forward and it's the norm
 
He lost how about that?
He played the game
a racist got elected
locked more kids up
probably did generations worth of damage to everything about this country
put stress on all of our daily lives we'll be paying for forever
but hey obama played the game!

you need to bow out of this conversation.

ain't no parlor tricks on how to play the game to get an outcome that's favorable for black people trust me i know this.
You are not understanding that Trump was allowed to do the things he did because the majority of the country thought what he was doing was correct.

When Trump went to war for white supremacy, he had an entire country behind him.
 
You are not understanding that Trump was allowed to do the things he did because the majority of the country thought what he was doing was correct.

When Trump went to war for white supremacy, he had an entire country behind him.

You are not understanding a 2nd term president with 2 years left in office doesn't need approval to say a got damn thing.
 
He cared more about them than us and now he's reflecting and trying to protect his image as we've become more radical

there was a time on here I was called a "militant" as an insult
fast forward and it's the norm
To tell the truth, I know how crazy these cacs are cause I worked with them, but until Trump I never realized how batshit crazy they are.

After the attack on the Capitol, my manager posted on Facebook how much worse it would have been if it was BLM or Antifa had done it?

Really?

If it was BLM they would have been tear gassed and mowed down in the street before they even got on the steps of the Capitol.

They believe everything they see on Faux or Parler. They love guns more than pussy. That being said I personally expected Obama to have been assassinated.
 
To tell the truth, I know how crazy these cacs are cause I worked with them, but until Trump I never realized how batshit crazy they are.

After the attack on the Capitol, my manager posted on Facebook how much worse it would have been if it was BLM or Antifa had done it?

Really?

If it was BLM they would have been tear gassed and mowed down in the street before they even got on the steps of the Capitol.

They believe everything they see on Faux or Parler. They love guns more than pussy. That being said I personally expected Obama to have been assassinated.


Think about that
how much worse it would have been if anti-fascists or people who think black lives matter overthrew the current government and made a new one with those ideas
lmaooooooooooooooo
 
He cared more about them than us and now he's reflecting and trying to protect his image as we've become more radical

there was a time on here I was called a "militant" as an insult
fast forward and it's the norm
Exactly. I used to get that too

To be a "militant" for the freedom of our people from oppression is a badge I'll wear proudly.

On that video, whenever Alicia Garza would talk, his body language was tight as fuck. I remember in February 2016, he held this fake ass summit of 20 new and old civil rights leaders a the White House in coordination with Black History month to discuss police reform. He invited my friend, founder of BLM Chicago. When she found out they were all allotted only 90 seconds apiece to speak, followed by a Black history speech by Obama followed by a wine reception. Nothing but a damn photo op. She refused to attend and publicly called him out for that fake shit.


After her essay made national news and embarrassed him, he added on a 20 minute discussion time to save face.

twenty. minutes. to. discuss. police. reform. with. twenty. people.

After that, for the remainder of his presidency, I'd hear him in commencement speeches and shit throwing subliminals at her for not coming to that bullshit.
 
You are not understanding a 2nd term president with 2 years left in office doesn't need approval to say a got damn thing.
Exactly, he measured his words to often when addressing black folks. But understand if he said we have a problem with policing and it's infiltrated with kkk, Faux news would have dialed up the rhetoric to 17 instead of 13.

They are delusional about fucking Tim Tebow abilities, you think they believe the stats the government put out about white militants? After that information came out, who did they focus on? Black identity Extremists.

They used to hold cac's somewhat responsible. Now we have congressmen saying the attack on the Capitol was basically a tour. :lol: :lol: :lol:

We haven't even hit bottom yet, cause old ass Joe is still trying to work with people that follow Trump.
 
Think about that
how much worse it would have been if anti-fascists or people who think black lives matter overthrew the current government and made a new one with those ideas
lmaooooooooooooooo
Exactly, the election of Obama shook them to their soul. They don't want change, hell they argue against electric cars, 5g and solar energy
 
I shouldn't engage but I will, you said a President can do whatever he wants especially in his second term and I showed you by way of Nixon having to give it up in his second term that statement simply is just not true. Nixon with with every power at his disposal tried to quash Watergate and he failed. No need to go with the personal attacks simply because you assertion proved to be incorrect.
People think that they can say what they want without consequences. Like a black man was just going to stroll up to the mic and say all crackas are racist and cops are white supremist and that was going to fly
 
That's one of my biggest gripes
caring more about what white people think than what we actually going through
And we can say he did because he didn't say fuck it.

He's just idk.

They lost their minds the same way when he wore a tan suit

so in my opinion if they gonna lose their minds no matter what might as well make it worth it.

He was always filtering. I get it. But like the few times he tried to keep it 100 with us, he should have done the same thing with them a few times too. He just didn't want to deal with all the blowback. I get it, but that's what you signed up for as the first black president in a sense.

They crazy shit is much as we talk about him not saying anything... white folks act like he was Malcolm X... people from the right wing REALLY think Obama was militant which is wild and just shows you how fucked up they really are.
 
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