Obama needs to shut up: President Mugabe is a hero!

Mugabe is doing the same thing as the CACs you speak of. :rolleyes:

Actually he's not.
granted he has made some tactically appaling decisions, but at core his motives, wants and desires for the country are noble.
Why does South Africa not condemn him??
Do they not have almost an identical history??
 
Chavez gave Obama a book to read.

Seems Mugabe needs to give Obama another book.

Obama is lost when it comes to foreign policy for non-white countries.........

I called him out just when he became POTUS and some people on here were angry.

What is Obama's foreign policy toward non-white countries?

More of the same.............


:smh::smh::smh:
 
Mugabe has done so much to/for Zimbabwe, and I suppose it would take a Marxist creep like you Nzinga to love and know one.

mugabe-cartoon1.jpg



According to the World Health Organization (2004), Zimbabwe has the lowest life expectancy of any nation with men living to the ripe old age of 37, and women to the age of 34.

http://www.afro.who.int/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1059&Itemid=2028
 
Chavez gave Obama a book to read.

Seems Mugabe needs to give Obama another book.

Obama is lost when it comes to foreign policy for non-white countries.........

I called him out just when he became POTUS and some people on here were angry.

What is Obama's foreign policy toward non-white countries?

More of the same.............


:smh::smh::smh:
You need to back such statements with FACTS! What do you mean by foreign policy ? just dumb this shit down ..people are trying to get paid and/or get off ...this so called "foreign policy" just relates to developing nations and hard head knucklehead ninjas .the rest sit at the big table....so when you say foreign policy what do mean? And lets not try to make it black or white..the name of the game is getting paid! Like the man
And he urged Africa not to miss out on 'huge opportunities' to improve social conditions and GDP.
otherwise you are going to be sitting here talking about this shit in 10yrs or 20 yrs! So do you want to be at the big table or on the sidelines making noise.
 
You need to back such statements with FACTS! What do you mean by foreign policy ? just dumb this shit down ..people are trying to get paid and/or get off ...this so called "foreign policy" just relates to developing nations and hard head knucklehead ninjas .the rest sit at the big table....so when you say foreign policy what do mean? And lets not try to make it black or white..the name of the game is getting paid! Like the man
otherwise you are going to be sitting here talking about this shit in 10yrs or 20 yrs! So do you want to be at the big table or on the sidelines making noise.



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You didn't get the memo?

America is no longer in a position to share food at the big table.

Have you ever heard of BRIC countries?

have you heard of Post-American period.

Big table?

Africa has more to offer America than America has to offer Africa.

:cool:
 
Mugabe has done so much to/for Zimbabwe, and I suppose it would take a Marxist creep like you Nzinga to love and know one.

mugabe-cartoon1.jpg

That's fallacy....Mugabe has done many wrong things, but none of the things listed in that cartoon......
Come on man....who do you work for the UK foreign office???
 
That's fallacy....Mugabe has done many wrong things, but none of the things listed in that cartoon......
Come on man....who do you work for the UK foreign office???


I don't think you should argue with someone named "tinman"

just my $0.02

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You didn't get the memo?

America is no longer in a position to share food at the big table.

Have you ever heard of BRIC countries?

have you heard of Post-American period.

Big table?

Africa has more to offer America than America has to offer Africa.

:cool:
So here you have Obama trying to rally them..strength in numbers and you question his so called foreign policy? So you have this Bric countries, not 1 country ..but a combination ..and we still want to give Mugabe props for his shenanigans in 20th century?? Lets deal with reality here ..I do not think we will see that nation rise back up anytime soon, not when we are talking about "Post American and Bric nations" ..unless the old guard like Mugabe just step down, the days for chest thumpin are over. He has taken that nation decades back just to proove his point, so dont chastise Obama, he is just trying to shed some light. The alternative is to stay getting pimped by the Bric nations! Let me pose this question, what answers do you have? And if we are going to recognize this Bric nations, which were colonized by the same folk, including the US of A..what is Mugabe trying to pull? In his defence they are a young nation, but what direction are the headed?
 
When I say a seat at the table, I mean at the global table..not necessarily with America or etc etc..but with this so called Bric nations ...them cats wont even fuck with you, if you are fumbling like Zimbabwe..literally ...so wtf?? you get AID funds and embezzle it and they stay pimpin you ...so what are you offering ? Where is the progress? how are you going to raise up that GDP?? how ?? A seat at the "proverbial big table" will not take into consideration if you are Black, White, Portuguese, Indian, Chinese, Russian etc etc...ninjas tryin to get paid! So if you dont raise up, you will be left behind, and what Mugabe did pushed his people behind by decades literally, there is no coming back from that shit, not anytime soon!
 
There is one son of an African that needs to shut up....


















But it is not Obama....
 
Some of yall just don't get it .... Any Black man that rises up through the ranks and TAKES power from
CAC's that refuses to allow them to continue their past practices of controling the riches and natural resources of an African country will automatically be
demonized. The media paints negative images of Mugabe because they are bitter with him to no ends.
It's not who Mugabe is, but the threat he represents for the
western world; an Africa ruled by leaders who have the African interest at heart is unacceptable. You talk about birth rates, killings, inflation and all of the actrocities inflicted on a country by this one single leader, but no
one discusses how these historical events came about and how the manifestation that exists today.
These CAC's have done everything that they can possibly do to create failure for this man. Including sabatoging the economy.
Obama has no intrest in the advancement of Africa, let's get that straight from the start. He represents a failed policy that these CAC's had towards Africa for centuries .... pilliage, and the usurping of it's natural resources..... PERIOD..... His present concern now is the competiton that the CAC's will have to contend with from the latest rival.... CHINA
 
So here you have Obama trying to rally them..strength in numbers and you question his so called foreign policy? So you have this Bric countries, not 1 country ..but a combination ..and we still want to give Mugabe props for his shenanigans in 20th century?? Lets deal with reality here ..I do not think we will see that nation rise back up anytime soon, not when we are talking about "Post American and Bric nations" ..unless the old guard like Mugabe just step down, the days for chest thumpin are over. He has taken that nation decades back just to proove his point, so dont chastise Obama, he is just trying to shed some light. The alternative is to stay getting pimped by the Bric nations! Let me pose this question, what answers do you have? And if we are going to recognize this Bric nations, which were colonized by the same folk, including the US of A..what is Mugabe trying to pull? In his defence they are a young nation, but what direction are the headed?


Your logic is all over the place........
:cool:

I'll try.

Rallying is not foreign policy.

e.g. Obama talking about black fathers on father's day is rallying, does it solve anything? Does it solve the high black unemployment numbers? does it solve discriminatory lending practices?

Africa doesn't need rallying?

It is condescending actually.

Africa needs fair trade.

America cannot tell another soveriegn country how to run its affairs.

Do you think Obama has the balls to tell China about their governance?

Do you think Obama has the balls to tell China about oppression of their women?

So why Africa?

Because as most Americans are taught from very young, black/african/non-white countries can't govern or help themselves and they need white/european/civilized countries to show them how to do it.

That is the root of this "take back our country" movement that is attacking the very Obama.

The same thought permeates throughout this society including this gov't.

You mentioned alternatives?

You make it seem like America/Europe is divorced from Africa and Arica exists in a vacuum.

We live how we live because of Africa.

If this empire really cared then Fair Trade would have become a priority instead of all the grandstanding.

Here is a link for you to catch up:

http://www.cafod.org.uk/media-centre/wto/trade



Trade: Facts and Figures

A tea-plucker for Fairtrade [Fairtrade Foundation]


The global costs of unfair trade.
The real cost to real people.
The myth of ‘free’ trade.
Rich farmer vs Poor farmer
The Cost of Unfair Trade

World trade rules stifle the development of poor countries. A lack of income from global trade means that poor country governments can’t afford education facilities, health care and other infrastructure, such as roads and electricity, which would help to bring about the end of poverty.

  • $1.3bn – the amount developing countries lose every day due to unfair trade rules
  • £14 – The amount lost by developing countries due to unfair trade rules for every £1 they’re given in aid
  • 50% – The drop in poor countries’ share of world trade since 1981. It is now just 0.4 per cent [3]
The myth of ‘Free Trade’

Many people believe that ‘free trade’ is the answer to ending hunger, disease and poverty. But can trade ever really be totally ‘free’? And would this be fair to small, undeveloped countries anyway?

  • 16 countries in sub-Saharan Africa have lower trade barriers than the EU. Yet these countries are still struggling to improve living conditions for their people [4]
  • $2.6 billion – The amount rich countries admit Africa will lose every year if their tariffs are reduced by 30%, as rich countries are forcing them to do [5]
  • 80% - the proportion of the production cost of rice which is subsidised in rich countries
The real cost of current trade policies

World trade rules have a massive financial impact on individual people in the world’s poorest countries, most of whom make their living from agriculture. Global poverty can only be ended if trade rules let the poor earn an honest wage, for an honest day’s work. Subsidies, tariffs and dumping currently prevent this from happening.

  • 63.5% of people in sub-Saharan Africa make their living from agriculture. In the EU just over 4 per cent of people work in agriculture [6]
  • $3.9bn – the amount spent by the US on cotton subsidies in 2001/2002, 60% more than the entire GDP of Burkina Faso where two million people depend on cotton production to make their living [7]
  • 689 million - the number of people living in sub -Saharan Africa, whose combined income is equal to the amount paid by the EU in agricultural subsidies [8]
  • £16 – the amount paid every week in taxes and higher food prices by a typical European family of four, which goes to prop up the Common Agricultural Policy, which has a disastrous track record of overproduction, environmental degradation, and food safety scares [9]
The real costs to real people

Many small scale farmers in developing countries rely on one crop for their entire income. If trade rules regarding this crop mean that they can’t get a reasonable price for it, they will struggle to make any living at all, their children won’t be able to go to school, they will go hungry and they may not be able to afford to grow their crop next season.

  • 35 % - drop in the value of maize to Mexican farmers since the North American Free Trade Agreement in 1994 [10]
  • 1.8m – the number of Sri Lankan families whose livelihood will be threatened by increases in cheap rice imports, resulting from rich country proposals. [11]
  • $16,028 – the average equivalent received by each EU farmer per year in agricultural support. [12] This is 100 times more than the average annual earnings of the rural poor in sub-Saharan Africa. [13]
Rich farmer vs Poor Farmer


  • 1.5 hectares – average landholding in Ethiopia [14] vs 69.3 hectares the average agricultural holding in the UK. [15]
  • 962 kg – average cereal yield per hectare in sub-Saharan Africa vs 7,122 kg in the UK. [16]
  • 769 hectares - for every one tractor in sub-Saharan Africa vs 12 hectares for every tractor in the UK. [17]
Millennium Development Goals

Rich countries are failing to give sufficient aid and debt relief to allow poor countries to reach the millennium development goals. Trade could help counter-balance this short-fall, but rich countries are preventing trade from fully benefiting the poor.

  • 184 million – the number of people who will still be going hungry in 2015 if current policies remain unchanged, according to the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation. [18]
Why it doesn’t have to be like this

Trade is central to every economy. World trade has grown at an unprecedented rate over recent decades, but the poor have seen little of the increase in global wealth. Whilst living standards have risen year-on-year for the rich, life expectancy in some poor countries is actually getting less.

  • 10 – The number of times world trade has increased since 1970, whilst the number of people going hungry in Africa has doubled.
  • 33 years - Life expectancy of a baby born in Zambia in 2001
  • 47 years - Life expectancy of a baby born in Zambia between 1970 and 1975. [20]
What CAFOD wants from the WTO

Special and differential treatment for developing countries.

  1. Poor country governments must be allowed to decide on trade policies that suit their development needs and help them to end poverty.
  2. In agricultural negotiations, developing countries should be able to protect crops that are essential for food security, livelihood security and rural development from further liberalisation.WTO negotiations should accept the G33 special products proposal.
  3. In the case of a drop in prices or an increase in the volume of imports, a Special Safeguard Mechanism should provide flexibility to developing countries to protect small farmers.
Stop trade distortion that generates poverty.

  1. Stop dumping of rich country exports on developing country markets, which destroys the livelihoods of millions of poor farmers and threatens a country’s ability to feed itself.
  2. Northern countries must commit to substantial further reform of their agricultural subsidy regimes.
Agriculture given a clear priority.

  1. Agriculture is central in the battle against poverty. Securing livelihoods, food security, fighting hunger and promoting gender equality must be the key priorities in the negotiations.
  2. Concessions given in agriculture by rich countries should not come at the expense of conditional liberalisation by poor countries in other areas of WTO negotiations
CAFOD is part of the Trade Justice Movement and Make Poverty History.


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That's fallacy....Mugabe has done many wrong things, but none of the things listed in that cartoon......
Come on man....who do you work for the UK foreign office???







Okay "Charlie", we'll leave the cartoon out of this, but I am going to help you bruh and re-quote the stats from WHO that you so conveniently left out when you quoted me.




According to the World Health Organization (2004), Zimbabwe has the lowest life expectancy of any nation with men living to the ripe old age of 37, and women to the age of 34.

http://www.afro.who.int/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1059&Itemid=2028
 
Some of yall just don't get it .... Any Black man that rises up through the ranks and TAKES power from
CAC's that refuses to allow them to continue their past practices of controling the riches and natural resources of an African country will automatically be
demonized. The media paints negative images of Mugabe because they are bitter with him to no ends.
It's not who Mugabe is, but the threat he represents for the
western world; an Africa ruled by leaders who have the African interest at heart is unacceptable. You talk about birth rates, killings, inflation and all of the actrocities inflicted on a country by this one single leader, but no
one discusses how these historical events came about and how the manifestation that exists today.
These CAC's have done everything that they can possibly do to create failure for this man. Including sabatoging the economy.

Obama has no interest in the advancement of Africa, let's get that straight from the start.

He represents a failed policy that these CAC's had towards Africa for centuries .... pilliage, and the usurping of it's natural resources..... PERIOD.....

His present concern now is the competiton that the CAC's will have to contend with from the latest rival.... CHINA





:yes::yes::yes:
 
Some of yall just don't get it .... Any Black man that rises up through the ranks and TAKES power from
CAC's that refuses to allow them to continue their past practices of controling the riches and natural resources of an African country will automatically be
demonized. The media paints negative images of Mugabe because they are bitter with him to no ends.
............
These CAC's have done everything that they can possibly do to create failure for this man. Including sabatoging the economy.
Obama has no intrest in the advancement of Africa, let's get that straight from the start. He represents a failed policy that these CAC's had towards Africa for centuries .... pilliage, and the usurping of it's natural resources..... PERIOD..... His present concern now is the competiton that the CAC's will have to contend with from the latest rival.... CHINA


Yup. They basically made an example out of Zimbabwe, daring any other country to try that shit.

If you move out of the hood does it mean that you don't care about the people you left back there? Don't know why Doggish and others giving Nzinga a hard time.
 
I'm not a Nzinga fan but I agree with the topic of the post. This post is not about where Nzinga resides.
I bet the majority of the anti-Mugabe replies are cacs or negros.
I'm a black man , do those that disagree with the topic have the heart to state whether they are cac , black , or negro?
 
I am from Zimbabwe and l won't even bother debate some of you ignorant niggas on this issue. Why did Mugabe kill 300 people after loosing the elections in 2008 ?
 
Some of yall just don't get it .... Any Black man that rises up through the ranks and TAKES power from
CAC's that refuses to allow them to continue their past practices of controling the riches and natural resources of an African country will automatically be
demonized. The media paints negative images of Mugabe because they are bitter with him to no ends.
It's not who Mugabe is, but the threat he represents for the
western world; an Africa ruled by leaders who have the African interest at heart is unacceptable. You talk about birth rates, killings, inflation and all of the actrocities inflicted on a country by this one single leader, but no
one discusses how these historical events came about and how the manifestation that exists today.
These CAC's have done everything that they can possibly do to create failure for this man. Including sabatoging the economy.
Obama has no intrest in the advancement of Africa, let's get that straight from the start. He represents a failed policy that these CAC's had towards Africa for centuries .... pilliage, and the usurping of it's natural resources..... PERIOD..... His present concern now is the competiton that the CAC's will have to contend with from the latest rival.... CHINA

This is very very true , PROPS.

But there is no need to expect a dog or a frog to come forward and agree with the Gods' honest truth :smh:
 
I am from Zimbabwe and l won't even bother debate some of you ignorant niggas on this issue. Why did Mugabe kill 300 people after loosing the elections in 2008 ?

Did those 300 people have a political dick in their mouth :hmm:
Mao did the same thing in China , told them to GTFOH.
 
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I have a question for everyone.

Alot of you believe that Obama is in no position to criticize Mugabe.

Ok I get that.

Then who should call Mugabe out for his transgressions?

And why do you ride for a leader such as him? Why not face the facts for what they are? Mugabe was a great conqueror... but a failure as a ruler. His policy has NOT benefited his people, not for a long long time. And he betrays his people with the way he refuses to relinquish his rule. It is what it is.
 
Some of yall just don't get it .... Any Black man that rises up through the ranks and power from
CAC's that refuses to allow them to continue their past practices of controling the riches and natural resources of an African country will automatically be
demonized.

What YOU don't realize is that any black man who does what you just described will be BLINDLY WORSHIPPED by ignorant fools like you, even while he fucks you and your family repeatedly in the ass.
 
Him or his supporters?
I'm just asking, unless I'm one of the ignorant people to whom you refer?

LMAO!

I love this kind of logic.

Its like when Mugabe was telling Tsvangirai "hey, its cool you can have your rallies whenever and wherever you want. Just dont blame me if my supporters shoot you though lol!"
 
LMAO!

I love this kind of logic.

Its like when Mugabe was telling Tsvangirai "hey, its cool you can have your rallies whenever and wherever you want. Just dont blame me if my supporters shoot you though lol!"

Is that a direct quote from Mugabe?
I'm just asking?
 
Despite the pressure from the Europeans, (England in particular) with the assistance of J.W. Bush - Mr. Mugabe stood and fight like a real fighter. Thanks to South Africa and China, he was not over-powered by western pressure.

They played every last trick in the book to bring this man down.
 
why is he allowed to create threads?
he snitched on bgol on another site and openly admitted to spamming this board.

if that's not grounds for something being taken away i don't know what is
 
Him or his supporters?
I'm just asking, unless I'm one of the ignorant people to whom you refer?

He had the army and the intelligence organization kill the people. He also justified the actions of the army saying the bullet is mightier than the ballot.

Did those 300 people have a political dick in their mouth :hmm:
Mao did the same thing in China , told them to GTFOH.

I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Is that a direct quote from Mugabe?
I'm just asking?

Something along those lines.
 
why is he allowed to create threads?
he snitched on bgol on another site and openly admitted to spamming this board.

if that's not grounds for something being taken away i don't know what is

And your up in his thread snitching on him...what's the difference??:confused:


Any comments on the topic in hand?
 
He had the army and the intelligence organization kill the people. He also justified the actions of the army saying the bullet is mightier than the ballot.



I don't understand what you are trying to say.



Something along those lines.

Then in answer to your question.

I don't know why he had those people killed, I'm guessing that it's because he percieved them to be a threat to his regime.

An action if as I've described, I can not condone.

However standing back viewing the political, social and economic consequences of permitting Tsvangirai to assume leadership, I personally, if I were Mugabe (and I'd like to think if I were him I'd be more tolerant of my enemies) would not willingly let it happen.

Furthermore, what do you think the military of the country would do if Mugabe stepped down for Tsvangirai??

And I ask the question again...Why will South Africa not condemn him? The answer to that question, is fundamental!!!
 
Then in answer to your question.

I don't know why he had those people killed, I'm guessing that it's because he percieved them to be a threat to his regime.

An action if as I've described, I can not condone.

However standing back viewing the political, social and economic consequences of permitting Tsvangirai to assume leadership, I personally, if I were Mugabe (and I'd like to think if I were him I'd be more tolerant of my enemies) would not willingly let it happen.

Furthermore, what do you think the military of the country would do if Mugabe stepped down for Tsvangirai??

And I ask the question again...Why will South Africa not condemn him? The answer to that question, is fundamental!!!


Why hold elections if they won't allow the winner to take office ?
 
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