New Trailer: The Underground Railroad (Amazon Prime) Based on Colson Whitehead’s Pulitzer Prize–winning novel

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Based on Colson Whitehead’s Pulitzer Prize–winning novel of the same name, Barry Jenkins’s long awaited project The Underground Railroad is finally pulling into Amazon Prime. Starring Thuso Mbedu as Cora Randall, the limited series follows Cora as she escapes her Georgia plantation by using the Underground Railroad — depicted in the series as a literal railroad system in tunnels underground. The cast will also include Aaron Pierre, Joel Edgerton, and William Jackson Harper.​
 

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why to much detail for me with the murdering of blacks .... that one scene where the showed whipping (details of the lashes ) then setting him on fire was far to much for me!!!!! makes me hate the white man!!!!
 

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Anyone else watch this?

Not sure I can do it
From whats been described, I wouldn't waste my time trying to watch this. A movie with the intent to diminish our importance in US history. There will be more...

They've already got Mr. T doing commercials promoting coal of all things. Sad event I did think he would know better.
 

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It needs to be violent to be historically accurate, but I am not in the mood. Until we start making movies showing the 1562 Florida insurrection with burning white people, or West African astronomers or a movie about Eric Dorner killing cops, I am good. I need equitable violence against White people. This shit is turning into porn for white people.
 

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It needs to be violent to be historically accurate, but I am not in the mood. Until we start making movies showing the 1562 Florida insurrection with burning white people, or West African astronomers or a movie about Eric Dorner killing cops, I am good. I need equitable violence against White people. This shit is turning into porn for white people.

Facts. I dont watch them anymore. I know the story, seen it 100000 ways. Not interested anymore.
 

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I haven't watched yet and probably wouldn't have, but now my interest is piqued.

Now I gotta go see with my own eyes, what has been said about it.
 

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I have been hearing this a LOT recently

this is a very complicated topic.
not really... at this point if it isn't showing a new pov or correcting popular history eg Roots (2016)-
then its just for entertainment purposes

fuck Lena Waithe etc...
why not look at the Gullah Wars, The Geechie, The Black Seminoles etc?

How Liberia was created (the good and bad and white money and lies)

Would love a series on Cassius Clay


Christiana, Pa... where Quakers & abolitionists violently protected some runaway slaves from slave catchers...

On September 11 1851, George Ford, Nelson Ford, Noah Buley, and Joshua Hammond arrived at William and Eliza Parker’s home in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania near the town of Christiana. The four men were fugitive slaves from Maryland and sought shelter on their journey north. The Parkers, who were Black abolitionists, agreed to help. Shortly thereafter Edward Gorsuch, the white enslaver, and a posse of slave catchers arrived to arrest the fugitive slaves. As the confrontation escalated, Eliza Parker sounded an alarm, alerting the members of the Black Self-Protection Society to protect the runaway slaves. Within minutes, eighty Black men and women and two Quakers arrived armed with guns and pitchforks, ready to defend the fugitives at all costs. Outnumbered, the slave catchers ran off but not until after shots had been fired. Refusing to leave, Gorsuch was ultimately killed at the hands of the men he pursued. Parker later recounted that “the women put an end to him” (p. 54-56). https://www.aaihs.org/the-role-of-violence-in-the-abolitionist-movement/

give me a series based on Black Self-Protection Society
 
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not really... at this point if it isn't showing a new pov or correcting popular history eg Roots (2016)-
then its just for entertainment purposes

but it seems like the creatives don't see it like that

they are saying now THEY (WE) get to show it from OUR perspective

be it factually accurate which is horrific enough

or emotional trauma.

I can UNDERSTAND using horror for that

it aint NEW

but I agree at some point it becomes like that torture porn craze

or WORSE

it desensitizes the intended audience you want to EFFECT

Or WORSE yet

fetish it.

But AGAIN it was WHITE folk controlling the images before romanticizing slavery etc

LEAVING OUT the truly gruesome real depravity

and if we CAN show those things I do believe we should.

I can see both arguments
 
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but it seems like the creatives don't see it like that

they are saying now THEY (WE) get to show it from OUR perspective

be it factually accurate which is horrific enough

or emotional trauma.

I can UNDERSTAND using horror for that

it aint NEW

but I agree at some pint it becomes like that torture porn craze

or WORSE

it desensitizes the intended audience you want to EFFECT

Or WORSE yet

fetish it.

But AGAIN it was WHITE folk controlling the images before romanticizing slavery etc

LEAVING OUT the truly gruesome real depravity

and if we CAN show those things I do believe we should.

I can see both arguments
to my knowledge
there is only one movie like Schindler's List
or 10 Commandments and a few Ann Franks
vs
a whole lot of movies and series like Exodus & Munich

outside of Fidler on the Roof, how many popular stories are there of jews in czarist Russia & later Stalin?




these creatives get rich from fetishizing brutality and oppression while avoiding EVERYTHING else from that period

there is a very deep well of stories to draw from... but they want to keep tapping the same vein, when they need a $$ fix, they use black misery cause they know ol' massa always pays out for those stories.
 

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Ok, I'm done with the last episode and I have to confess that I haven’t been as simultaneously moved by a TV show in for many years.
The cinematography as well—every frame of this show was off the chain and could be a painting. The subject matter of course is tough to watch but I really appreciated the artistry of it. What is remarkably different in The Underground Railway as opposed to Uncle Tom's Cabin is the lack of white perspective-Uncle Tom's relies heavily on white responses to slavery, rather than black responses. The whites that help Cora are reluctant or obscure.
 

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to my knowledge
there is only one movie like Schindler's List
or 10 Commandments and a few Ann Franks
vs
a whole lot of movies and series like Exodus & Munich

outside of Fidler on the Roof, how many popular stories are there of jews in czarist Russia & later Stalin?




these creatives get rich from fetishizing brutality and oppression while avoiding EVERYTHING else from that period

there is a very deep well of stories to draw from... but they want to keep tapping the same vein, when they need a $$ fix, they use black misery cause they know ol' massa always pays out for those stories.

I agree and I disagree

There are a TON of graphic Holocaust movies, ww II, movies

I think Munich is actually an outlier

It's a complicated subject to dissect at least to me cause a whole lot goes into it.

But Vicious and you are correct overall

Who controls the studios the production companies writers rooms casting directing advertising?

So of course YES they are complicit

But at a time when people of color and gay folk have the most influence in entertainment

They are making these projects and bringing them to the table

You have to ask them why too.
 

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I agree and I disagree

There are a TON of graphic Holocaust movies, ww II, movies

I think Munich is actually an outlier

It's a complicated subject to dissect at least to me cause a whole lot goes into it.

But Vicious and you are correct overall

Who controls the studios the production companies writers rooms casting directing advertising?

So of course YES they are complicit

But at a time when people of color and gay folk have the most influence in entertainment

They are making these projects and bringing them to the table

You have to ask them why too.
look - until we get a movie about General Sherman & Field Order 15 or a series based on Bass Reeves
Im not interested in seeing any new media that contains cracked whips, cries of lordy, and weepy spirituals....

w/o a diversity in stories its just another generation of blaxploitation

with more perversions in lock step with Harriet
 

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look - until we get a movie about General Sherman & Field Order 15 or a series based on Bass Reeves
Im not interested in seeing any new media that contains cracked whips, cries of lordy, and weepy spirituals....

w/o a diversity in stories its just another generation of blaxploitation

with more perversions in lock step with Harriet

I agree 100%

Haitian Revolution too.

But I also need to know if these projects are being written and presented

RIGHT NOW

When supposedly these are the type of properties the black audience CLAIMS to want.
 

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look - until we get a movie about General Sherman & Field Order 15 or a series based on Bass Reeves
Im not interested in seeing any new media that contains cracked whips, cries of lordy, and weepy spirituals....

w/o a diversity in stories its just another generation of blaxploitation

with more perversions in lock step with Harriet

It's crazy that it took a white man to create watchman with a female black lead and bring Tulsa to the world stage

White showrunner on Justified brought the name and legend of bass reeves to TV and later wanted a movie.

We STILL after everything that just happened need a white industry co sign.
 

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It's crazy that it took a white to create watchman with a female black lead and bring Tulsa to the world stage

White showrunner on Justified brought the name and legend of bass reeves to TV and later wanted a movie.

We STILL after everything that just happened need a white industry co sign.
even with the cosign its been no

for example there are multiple Haitian Revolution projects unfunded - Mr Glover's being the loudest

Danny Glover's Toussaint L'Ouverture Film That Never Was


history that Hollywood avoids (in chrono order)

Shays rebellion and similar events
French Revolution
Haitian Revolution
Haitians & Creole (1800s New Orleans in general)
Gullah uprisings
American slave states in Mexico, Central America & Argentina
Southern reconstruction & Jim Crow
America in Cuba & Haiti
Russian Revolution (non Bolshevik)
brexit of all british collonies
 

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It's crazy that it took a white man to create watchman with a female black lead and bring Tulsa to the world stage

White showrunner on Justified brought the name and legend of bass reeves to TV and later wanted a movie.

We STILL after everything that just happened need a white industry co sign.
I'm betting Damon hit HBO with the real story around the end of pre production
there is noway he pitched Regina and a black "god"
 

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I'm betting Damon hit HBO with the real story around the end of pre production
there is noway he pitched Regina and a black "god"

^^^^^

I have absolutely no idea how that actually works and I would really love the opportunity to interview someone about that.

I heard some stories but I need a detailed breakdown on how someone pulls this off

Especially in 2021 with hundreds on staff major corporations multi millions at stake

All that involved

And you can hide and then just flip the whole thing?

To me that's like everyone getting the blueprints for a McDonald's then last minute all of sudden it's the first level of the Titanic.
 

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I'm betting Damon hit HBO with the real story around the end of pre production
there is noway he pitched Regina and a black "god"

Question just for discussion - what if you were given PROOF HBO and AT&T knew the whole time and were cool with it? What you think then?

Cause it's not like it was the ONLY show with that kind of "pro black" theme hell HBO had to the two most popular blackest most awarded critically praised shows on TV back to back last year.

Is it POSSIBLE they just said ok...

do it.

If that was proved to be the case, what it have any effect on your overall opinion?
 

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even with the cosign its been no

for example there are multiple Haitian Revolution projects unfunded - Mr Glover's being the loudest

Danny Glover's Toussaint L'Ouverture Film That Never Was


history that Hollywood avoids (in chrono order)

Shays rebellion and similar events
French Revolution
Haitian Revolution
Haitians & Creole (1800s New Orleans in general)
Gullah uprisings
American slave states in Mexico, Central America & Argentina
Southern reconstruction & Jim Crow
America in Cuba & Haiti
Russian Revolution (non Bolshevik)
brexit of all british collonies

Yo cuz that is masterful right there.

I'm pissed I lack the knowledge and skill to craft an essay hell maybe even a book on this specific subject.

This is a topic that you would read in the Sunday Times

I'm barely qualified to reply to this post.
 

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Question just for discussion - what if you were given PROOF HBO and AT&T knew the whole time and were cool with it? What you think then?

Cause it's not like it was the ONLY show with that kind of "pro black" theme hell HBO had to the two most popular blackest most awarded critically praised shows on TV back to back last year.

Is it POSSIBLE they just said ok...

do it.

If that was proved to be the case, what it have any effect on your overall opinion?
yeah
I would be amazed...
 
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