Music Debate: BIG & Jay Z RUIN Hip Hop because NOT WRITING?

[cincitystudios]

Them cats write their rhymes they just don't write everything down word for word. Method Man interview he said he saw BIG write rhymes, he don't know why cats kept saying he didn't write shit

 

[playahaitian]

Them cats write their rhymes they just don't write everything down word for word. Method Man interview he said he saw BIG write rhymes, he don't know why cats kept saying he didn't write shit

you gotta post that.

 

[The Untouchable GDFOLKS]

you actually believe they did a whole album without writing anything??
niggaz believe anything nowadays. just because people didnt see them write it, doesn't mean that they didnt.
i've yet to see one rapper make a meaningful album without having to pick up a pen once.

Its possible.
When your are crafting the rhyme ,you repeat it so many times over and over that if you have a decent memory you dont need to write it down.

Shut the fuck up CAC
you are right though, after writing and re-writing(in your head or paper) over and over you just start memorizing the bars naturally.

Was in the studio when J was recording. He never wrote anything down. J wrote everything in his head. He did not freestyle or anything like that.

Jay just would recite words over and over in his head and was able to recall what he was thinking.

Man shut the fuck up..


Jay is one of them dudes that can write segments of bars in his head...he then goes in the booth and records that segment, steps back out and listens to that shit in a loop while thinking about the next lines...wash, rinse and repeat BOOM you have a whole verse.

Wayne is the same...we call them punch rappers. They record bit by bit by using punch ins.

 

[Complex]

Them cats write their rhymes they just don't write everything down word for word. Method Man interview he said he saw BIG write rhymes, he don't know why cats kept saying he didn't write shit

Yeah, I think he said that on Sway's show

And I think you should change that to maybe they might do it for some songs.

Like I have a hard time he didn't write for something like Story To Tell

 

[phanatic]

Nah, writing shit down ain't gonna help some of these cats. Wack is wack no matter the method

Eminem writes shit down and I bet Chief Keef does too, and they are worlds apart lyrically.

 

[Complex]

I'm sure it's been said in this thread, but if anybody thinks Jay Z does anything close to freestyling his shit, they are ignorant to facts. He just has the ability to go over that shit enough in his head to memorize it...which is a good party trick, but it's not like the shit just magically comes to him in a couple minutes and he spits. And he most likely has shit come to him throughout the day and pieces that shit together..some of that shit he could have thought of last month and then go in without a pad and producers and dick riders are all stunned and amazed. It just adds to his legend, so he lets them think that. really a lot of rappers do that shit.

It's more than that

because he incorporates the beat in to the lyrics by his flow

so no, a lot of it's done on the spot as he hears the beat and how he sees the song in his head

He would rap the same way on every song according to you

 

[playahaitian]

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[playahaitian]

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I don't think it's necessarily lazy it's just before you couldn't record infinitely and get a vibe and then figure out the best pieces

You had to write it be sure make it count and then go from there

Even big and jay didn't do it because they were lazy it was because studio time was expensive and they needed to memorize the lines to get in and get out

I'm not one to police how ppl choose to be artistic as long as they aren't mailing it in

The good thing is you can hear if they're mailing it in or if they took the time to craft and piece together the most cohesive lines to create songs

 

[playahaitian]

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I don't think it's necessarily lazy it's just before you couldn't record infinitely and get a vibe and then figure out the best pieces

You had to write it be sure make it count and then go from there

Even big and jay didn't do it because they were lazy it was because studio time was expensive and they needed to memorize the lines to get in and get out

I'm not one to police how ppl choose to be artistic as long as they aren't mailing it in

The good thing is you can hear if they're mailing it in or if they took the time to craft and piece together the most cohesive lines to create songs

Art of mc ing bars

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Art of mc ing bars

Snobbing over how you create is hilarious

 

[playahaitian]

Snobbing over how you create is hilarious

Damn.

You been freestyling crazy all day bro.

Bomani would block you on twitter

 

[godofwine]

Technology
I don't think it's necessarily lazy it's just before you couldn't record infinitely and get a vibe and then figure out the best pieces

You had to write it be sure make it count and then go from there

Even big and jay didn't do it because they were lazy it was because studio time was expensive and they needed to memorize the lines to get in and get out

I'm not one to police how ppl choose to be artistic as long as they aren't mailing it in

The good thing is you can hear if they're mailing it in or if they took the time to craft and piece together the most cohesive lines to create songs

I know that my memory sucks. You can do that not writing shit down if you want to, but know thy self.

I know that my memory sucks so I'll write my shit down. If I didn't, the words would slip through my fingers like water slipping through your hands.

I make sure to keep my phone with me to record or talk to text fire lines, ideas, thoughts or processes to ensure I'm able to add them to my project.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Damn.

You been freestyling crazy all day bro.

Bomani would block you on twitter

Yup idk if I'd blame him for that either tho too many trolls out there to try and pick out who's intelligent
But mostly you're able to build more clout by Dunkin on folks instead of talking to them

Which he doesn't owe me or anyone that right

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I know that my memory sucks. You can do that not writing shit down if you want to, but know thy self.

I know that my memory sucks so I'll write my shit down. If I didn't, the words would slip through my fingers like water slipping through your hands.

I make sure to keep my phone with me to record or talk to text fire lines, ideas, thoughts or processes to ensure I'm able to add them to my project.

But my point is now you don't have to because you can record how you hear it in your head and build it from there
Words aren't sounds it's why guide demos have always existed

 

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[Darkness's]

Them cats write their rhymes they just don't write everything down word for word. Method Man interview he said he saw BIG write rhymes, he don't know why cats kept saying he didn't write shit

Even gene deal said big was wtiting his shit.

 

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