Music Biz: All of Ariana Grande 7 Rings Songwriting Royalties Are Going to Rodgers & Hammstein

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Nearly All of Ariana Grande's "7 Rings" Songwriting Royalties Are Going to Rodgers & Hammerstein

MAR 19, 2019

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Ariana Grande's "7 Rings" is a massive and lucrative hit—especially for legendary composers Rodgers & Hammerstein.

Since its release on Jan. 18, the record-breaking single has garnered more than a billion streams and has topped the Hot 100 chart for six nonconsecutive weeks. Though there was some controversy about the inspiration behind "7 Rings"—as a number of artists accused Grande of stealing their respective styles—there was one reference that couldn't be denied: The hook was an obvious sample of 1959's "My Favorite Things," a song written by Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II for The Sound of Music.


According to the New York Times, Rodgers and Hammerstein are two of the 10 listed songwriters for "7 Rings," but control 90 percent of the royalties. Concord, the music company that has owned the duo's catalog over the last couple of years, reportedly secured the percentage just weeks before the song was released.

"['7 Rings'] wouldn’t exist in its current form were it not for 'My Favorite Things,'" Jake Wisely, Concord's chief publishing executive, told the Times.

Concord's large cut means it could potentially make millions of dollars off the song. Grande and the other seven co-writers will make a fraction of the remaining 10 percent. It's important to note, however, that Grande is expected still make bank because the songwriting royalties are separate from what she will earn as the recording artists.


In 2006, Gwen Stefani sampled The Sound of Music's "Lonely Goatherd" for "Wind It Up." As part of that deal, Rodgers and Hammerstein —who died in 1979 and 1960, respectively—received 50 percent of the royalties. Copyright attorney Lisa Alter suspects that the cut is likely based off of the popularity of the original song.

"It probably implies that more of the song is being used," Alter said, "or how iconic the original song is."

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TENT

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I really don't see the need for a song like this. I remember listening to it and wondering why they chose to interpolate the Sound of Music.
 

Mello Mello

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God damn 10 songwriters

This producer once told me about selling beats to popular artist that, it’s best to pitch them beats that are half finished so that the artist can add their own touch and feel to the beat and writers can get their writing credits too. Said selling and making beats is a team effort because everyone wants to get some credits to eat off it if it blows up. lol
 

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Strangest thing. I'll hear a song for the first time then look up info on it only to find out that it was a popular chart topper 5-10 years ago with a quarter of a billion views on YT and I'm just like :dunno:.

Guess one of those things that comes with getting older.
Just a lot easier to put out music these days. So much of it flys by.

Then you got all these fake streaming hits nowadays too. Can never truly tell anymore.
 

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knightmelodic

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Back in the 50's, when young black doo-wop groups were all the rage, the white usually jewish producers would change one word and put their names on the chart as a writer. Most of those young men understood little to nothing about the business and signed contracts that waived their writing royalties, over to, you guessed it, the jew producers. Those fuckers got fat and when the groups started complaining and asking where all the money was, the jews gave them heroin. Real nice people.
I say all that to say, fuck arianna grande. She started out humble and there's no denying she's got pipes but now she's gone off the rails with the things she's been doing.
I believe the saying is "if you dance to the music," well, you know the rest.
 

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Strangest thing. I'll hear a song for the first time then look up info on it only to find out that it was a popular chart topper 5-10 years ago with a quarter of a billion views on YT and I'm just like :dunno:.

Guess one of those things that comes with getting older.
I think you can make this type of person a certain group...I know I fall under this category...I be looking like hey so this is what video look like from a song I might have heard at a clothing store years ago
 

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I think you can make this type of person a certain group...I know I fall under this category...I be looking like hey so this is what video look like from a song I might have heard at a clothing store years ago

Exactly! I've been out to a club and will see a music video playing. I'm thinking, I've never heard this and apparently they put a lot of production value into this song.

Research and see that shit was released 8 years ago or some shit. I'm just like :eek:
 

knightmelodic

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Exactly! I've been out to a club and will see a music video playing. I'm thinking, I've never heard this and apparently they put a lot of production value into this song.

Research and see that shit was released 8 years ago or some shit. I'm just like :eek:

Yup. Shit happens to me every day at the gym, B. And since I wear NC headphones unless I see some major ass-shaking I don't even bother to search for the video so by the time I actually hear the song it's mad old. And you know this bullshit they call music these days ages like milk.
 

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some folks dont care for the sound of music but you have to understand how many different versions of that song i done heard through
out the years by every genre of music there is.....pay up ....
 

godofwine

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Thanks bruh!!

Boy, I swear i cant take this new music of today! Maybe its me, but all these song all sound and have about the same beat!! And their all pushing the same shit, Materialism!!
Yes. I feel the same damn way. Pushing materialism the poor people, like black people in church, lap it up like they haven't had a drink in days.

I resist the brainwashing. I can give two shits about what somebody says about something I wear or drive. I don't own any jewelry and diamonds are just a pretty rocks that hold no value in my life.

If you see me with name brand gear on, best believe I got that shit at a huge discount and I damn sure asked for my military discount as well.

These broke motherfuckas go out by and shake because Nicki Minaj or Ariana grande or whomever talks about it in a Goddamn song. Just gullible ass motherfuckers
 

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Yes. I feel the same damn way. Pushing materialism the poor people, like black people in church, lap it up like they haven't had a drink in days.

I resist the brainwashing. I can give two shits about what somebody says about something I wear or drive. I don't own any jewelry and diamonds are just a pretty rocks that hold no value in my life.

If you see me with name brand gear on, best believe I got that shit at a huge discount and I damn sure asked for my military discount as well.

These broke motherfuckas go out by and shake because Nicki Minaj or Ariana grande or whomever talks about it in a Goddamn song. Just gullible ass motherfuckers

It seems that way, but hip hop from 15-20 years ago was WAY more materialistic than it is now. Also, the reason why it's so easy to resist the brainwashing is because once you've passed the age of 30 the music isn't made for you any more.

I can't speak for your life specifically, but back when I went broke buying the name brand shit too. The only reason I don't do it now is because my priorities changed. It happens to everyone as we age.

Reminds me of the time I was listening to the radio with a similar aged friend. He complained that Tinashe's "2On" was corrupting kids with her lyric "Live fast die young that's my choice." I'm like dude, what was name of Biggie's first album again?
 

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If you're referring to that Cash Money bling bling era than yeah it was more materialistic. idk if I agree with you about the 30 years old thing tho

It seems that way, but hip hop from 15-20 years ago was WAY more materialistic than it is now. Also, the reason why it's so easy to resist the brainwashing is because once you've passed the age of 30 the music isn't made for you any more.

I can't speak for your life specifically, but back when I went broke buying the name brand shit too. The only reason I don't do it now is because my priorities changed. It happens to everyone as we age.

Reminds me of the time I was listening to the radio with a similar aged friend. He complained that Tinashe's "2On" was corrupting kids with her lyric "Live fast die young that's my choice." I'm like dude, what was name of Biggie's first album again?
 

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If you're referring to that Cash Money bling bling era than yeah it was more materialistic. idk if I agree with you about the 30 years old thing tho

Yeah, that's the era. Cash Money personified it, but practically everyone worshipped the dollar like never before. Pen and Pixel made it big off making album covers look like diamonds. Rappers tatted themselves with logos from expensive liquors. Even R&B had songs like Blu Cantrel's "Hit 'em up style" Looking back though a lot of it makes sense. The economy was booming and credit was cheap. People balled out with gold, rims and houses they couldn't afford.

Then in 2008 when everyone went broke those songs started to disappear. Now everything was about partying, something even the brokest people can afford to do. You had songs like "Thizzle Dance", "teach me how to Dougie", "Tell me when to go" "Bring it back" etc. It was also the start of the stripper anthem era since a lot of single moms became dancers to make ends meet.

These days are kind of mix of both. A lot of white kids can't afford to go to raves so EDM producers like Steve Aoki, Skrillex and Calvin Harris are making hip hop beats and bringing their influences with them. Car loans are cheap so you got songs like Lil Pump's "Suicide Doors". The war on drugs has gotten so insane that more people are doing scripts. That's reflected in both the sound, speed and subject matter of the music. It's also no coincidence that most of these songs come from Florida, a state with low pharmaceutical regulation.

The other big American shift is that people are fleeing the suburbs and moving back to cities. Many can't make that jump because of excessive debt and end up left behind. That's partially how "trap" music became mainstream.
 

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Yes. I feel the same damn way. Pushing materialism the poor people, like black people in church, lap it up like they haven't had a drink in days.

I resist the brainwashing. I can give two shits about what somebody says about something I wear or drive. I don't own any jewelry and diamonds are just a pretty rocks that hold no value in my life.

If you see me with name brand gear on, best believe I got that shit at a huge discount and I damn sure asked for my military discount as well.

These broke motherfuckas go out by and shake because Nicki Minaj or Ariana grande or whomever talks about it in a Goddamn song. Just gullible ass motherfuckers

I hear ya, bruh... I dont get it and dont wanna get it!!

Talking about diamonds, I watched Blood Diamond the other day and got all pissed off thinking about those young kids out there diggin for those worthless rocks..
 

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It seems that way, but hip hop from 15-20 years ago was WAY more materialistic than it is now. Also, the reason why it's so easy to resist the brainwashing is because once you've passed the age of 30 the music isn't made for you any more.

I can't speak for your life specifically, but back when I went broke buying the name brand shit too. The only reason I don't do it now is because my priorities changed. It happens to everyone as we age.

Reminds me of the time I was listening to the radio with a similar aged friend. He complained that Tinashe's "2On" was corrupting kids with her lyric "Live fast die young that's my choice." I'm like dude, what was name of Biggie's first album again?

Right on, write on!! Your right about the age of 30 and music!! These days Im deep into the indie music vibe!! There is a ton of independent music out here that alot of people have never hear before..
 

roots69

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Yeah, that's the era. Cash Money personified it, but practically everyone worshipped the dollar like never before. Pen and Pixel made it big off making album covers look like diamonds. Rappers tatted themselves with logos from expensive liquors. Even R&B had songs like Blu Cantrel's "Hit 'em up style" Looking back though a lot of it makes sense. The economy was booming and credit was cheap. People balled out with gold, rims and houses they couldn't afford.

Then in 2008 when everyone went broke those songs started to disappear. Now everything was about partying, something even the brokest people can afford to do. You had songs like "Thizzle Dance", "teach me how to Dougie", "Tell me when to go" "Bring it back" etc. It was also the start of the stripper anthem era since a lot of single moms became dancers to make ends meet.

These days are kind of mix of both. A lot of white kids can't afford to go to raves so EDM producers like Steve Aoki, Skrillex and Calvin Harris are making hip hop beats and bringing their influences with them. Car loans are cheap so you got songs like Lil Pump's "Suicide Doors". The war on drugs has gotten so insane that more people are doing scripts. That's reflected in both the sound, speed and subject matter of the music. It's also no coincidence that most of these songs come from Florida, a state with low pharmaceutical regulation.

The other big American shift is that people are fleeing the suburbs and moving back to cities. Many can't make that jump because of excessive debt and end up left behind. That's partially how "trap" music became mainstream.


Bruh, what type of sound are you know for??
 

Dannyblueyes

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Right on, write on!! Your right about the age of 30 and music!! These days Im deep into the indie music vibe!! There is a ton of independent music out here that alot of people have never hear before..

Me too I get a LOT of it from the record pools and play it as often as possible at events and parties. I also dip into the "official UK" charts when playing top 40, EDM, or fashion show gigs.

When it comes to playing more modern music, especially at sweet sixteens and high school grads, I may not like all of it, but have to understand why the kids do. That usually means mixing it with music that an older crowd will like during rehearsals until I get a sense of a vibe. The music may change forms over the decades, but the vibe always stays consistent.

For that matter being a teenager stays consistent too. The realities of the modern world may change, but the newness of it never does. youngsters still want to know what it feels like to fall in love, get laid, alter their minds, and experience the world vicariously through art. it's also when they start to see the flaws in the way the parents live their lives and challenge that authority. When a rapper presents themselves in a way that pisses us off or we think is harmful, that's the point.

Sorry for rambling. Just feeling the vibe right now.
 
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