Fuck Vegas...More fallout from the NBA All-Star Game

[papi68]

Updated: May 4, 2007, 9:40 AM ET
Casino exec: All-Star Game wasn't good for businessESPN.com news services



LAS VEGAS -- MGM Mirage Inc.'s chief executive does not want the NBA All-Star Game to return to Las Vegas, saying Thursday that the casino's first-quarter earnings were potentially hurt by the rowdy crowd that turned out for the league's showcase game.


"The gang-bangers and others who came for purposes other than attending the game, they weren't very good for Las Vegas."
-- Terry Lanni, MGM Mirage Inc. chief executive
Terry Lanni made the comments after the company, which owns the most casinos of any operator on the Las Vegas Strip, reported first-quarter earnings that fell below analyst forecasts, sending MGM Mirage shares down more than 4 percent. They rebounded 2.4 percent in after-hours trading.

The company said the earnings shortfall was partially due to a partially problematic crowd that surrounded the All-Star Game in February, which fell on the same weekend as the Lunar New Year -- a crucial period for bringing in high-rollers from Asia.

"The gang-bangers and others who came for purposes other than attending the game, they weren't very good for Las Vegas," Lanni told The Associated Press.

Lanni said there was little action on the gambling tables the day of the game. Muhfuckas bruhs were playing dice in the hallways....fuck lining your pockets!


"There's a big difference between out-of-towners coming to Las Vegas to party and locals going to a ball game. The crowd that was disruptive is different from loyal Las Vegas fans who back their home team."
-- Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman
"In talking to our casino hosts, a number of people stayed in their villas and suites. They felt uncomfortable," he said.

Excluding Beau Rivage, which opened in Mississippi in August, quarterly casino revenues slipped 6 percent from a year ago, and table game revenue, including the baccarat game that Asian players favor, fell 7 percent.

There was a spike in arrests and complaints about rowdy behavior during NBA All-Star Weekend. Five people were shot, including three outside a strip club. Tennessee Titans cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones and two friends are being investigated for their roles in an earlier brawl at the club. The NFL suspended Jones for the 2007 season, in part because of the incident, but he has appealed.

Las Vegas is interested in landing an NBA franchise, and commissioner David Stern recently said a committee of owners will review the proposal Mayor Oscar Goodman submitted to the league.

"Mr. Stern can keep his basketball franchises out of Las Vegas as far as I'm concerned," Lanni said.

Lanni later backed away from those comments, with MGM Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman saying his complaints "only meant to refer to the All-Star Game."

Clark County Commissioner Rory Reid, who worked with Goodman on the proposal, said Lanni made his concerns abundantly clear even before the pitch was sent to Stern last month.

"Frankly, it's a concern if a company like that has concerns on that scale," Reid said. "It's obviously something that we'll have to address if we're going to move forward."

He also said he and the mayor tried to reassure Lanni that having a team based in Las Vegas might not cause the same trouble as a single, high-profile event.

"That was one game on one weekend," Reid said. "If there were 41 games here, it may be different, but I don't know."

Goodman said having a team cheered on by local fans would be vastly different from the rowdy tourist spectacle that the All-Star weekend became.

"There's a big difference between out-of-towners coming to Las Vegas to party and locals going to a ball game," he said. "The crowd that was disruptive is different from loyal Las Vegas fans who back their home team."

 

[ciato]

in others words NO NIGGAS ALLOWED

 

[poorboy]

well you can't be in denial folks. truth is such events bring a larger black male crowd which in turn creates more violence. my sisters went and i told them i wasn't fuckin with it cause i knew some shit was going to happen...true enough things did and i heard of a few shootouts, with one girl being shot dead at MGM...and i read something about them making a record number of arrests over that weekend...i don't know why black males tend to attract so much violence...it's a culture that HAS to be changed...so to make this into a racial issue may be fair..but i wouldn't say its racist that they wouldn't want to be bothered with a similar crowd...truth is we need to get our act together first...the proof is in the fuckin' puddin...

 

[XXXplosive]

in others words NO NIGGAS ALLOWED

Basically.

Most hip-hop gatherings are not violent, but the ones (like the crowd at the All Star Game) that listen to the mainstream crap that's out today tend to be

 

[papi68]

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[The Black HHH]

Shit. He ain't lying.
From people who went, WORST TIME EVER.

 

[Kubrick]

well you can't be in denial folks. truth is such events bring a larger black male crowd which in turn creates more violence. my sisters went and i told them i wasn't fuckin with it cause i knew some shit was going to happen...true enough things did and i heard of a few shootouts, with one girl being shot dead at MGM...and i read something about them making a record number of arrests over that weekend...i don't know why black males tend to attract so much violence...it's a culture that HAS to be changed...so to make this into a racial issue may be fair..but i wouldn't say its racist that they wouldn't want to be bothered with a similar crowd...truth is we need to get our act together first...the proof is in the fuckin' puddin...

I think it's a sub-culture that's causing the problems.

 

[DjMorpheus]

"Hey NBA! Don't bring all them niggas down here NO MO!"



Man, fuck them crackas.

 

[poorboy]

well i'm no cracka but i sure as hell wouldnt attract that crowd anymore if i had a casino either....no need to take it out on the white folks...you expect them to keep hosting shit that attracts that kinda crowd when they come bringing violence too? i think that kind of attitude is not productive and does not focus on the problem that some black people have. trying to make the casino owners and executives the bad guys is wrong dude...plain wrong

 

[Damn Right]

in others words NO NIGGAS ALLOWED

that's not what he's sayin at all. i was there. the entire weekend. and i can say that what he said was true. there were muh fukkas there who only wanted to cause trouble. it's like the streets of l.a. were empty that whole weekend cause every thug and 'gang banger' made that trek to vegas. i mean muh fukkas were fightin in the venetian (GROUPS OF UM AT ONCE) then it spilled out into the street and into ANOTHER hotel ACROSS THE STREET!

straight up, 'niggas' turned the mgm into a ghetto with all tha bullsheit. it was like watts up in that muh fukka. no joke.

 

[TeEdIzZeL]

He/She aint lying tho.....for those who were out there (like myself) knows that a majority of tha niccas out there were hanging in/around the MGM Grand. Noone was really gambling, they were jut standing/walking around gettin at tha bitches and looking for celebs. That probally caused white people to choose a different casino to gamble at. So while tha MGM Grand got hit, other casinos probally want the All-Star game next year because it forced people to their casinos...lol

 

[water]

well you can't be in denial folks. truth is such events bring a larger black male crowd which in turn creates more violence. my sisters went and i told them i wasn't fuckin with it cause i knew some shit was going to happen...true enough things did and i heard of a few shootouts, with one girl being shot dead at MGM...and i read something about them making a record number of arrests over that weekend...i don't know why black males tend to attract so much violence...it's a culture that HAS to be changed...so to make this into a racial issue may be fair..but i wouldn't say its racist that they wouldn't want to be bothered with a similar crowd...truth is we need to get our act together first...the proof is in the fuckin' puddin...

How do you differentiate who are good blacks and who are bad blacks????


How do you determine when a large black male crowd is good or bad????


Answer that..........

 

[DeadAzz Serious]

well you can't be in denial folks. truth is such events bring a larger black male crowd which in turn creates more violence. my sisters went and i told them i wasn't fuckin with it cause i knew some shit was going to happen...true enough things did and i heard of a few shootouts, with one girl being shot dead at MGM...and i read something about them making a record number of arrests over that weekend...i don't know why black males tend to attract so much violence...it's a culture that HAS to be changed...so to make this into a racial issue may be fair..but i wouldn't say its racist that they wouldn't want to be bothered with a similar crowd...truth is we need to get our act together first...the proof is in the fuckin' puddin...

Did your sisters tell you how muck DICK THEY SUCKED throughout the festive weekend? How much salads they tossed,and cousins/friends/fathers of nba celebs feet the licked? Fuck off pussy.

 

[tfresca]

DeadSerious must be a 14 year old hard core gangbanger sitting on a computer? Dumb shit. We fucked up! Back in the day we used to have some damn sense when we knew people were fucking watching us. Let's try it again.

 

[mc2]

I honestly cant blame him for not wanting the all-star game there again. I was there and it was out of control.. You had folks stealing out of the casinos, not paying for food or tipping the waiters, brawls, and shootings.. To top it all off, the hotels lost money durring the time and they are justified for not wanting the game again.

We cant have anything thing worth while because ignorant niggaz wont let you

 

[water]

DeadSerious must be a 14 year old hard core gangbanger sitting on a computer? Dumb shit. We fucked up! Back in the day we used to have some damn sense when we knew people were fucking watching us. Let's try it again.

What the fuck are you talking about "we fucked up"?

Are you a gang banger?

Who the fuck is "we"?

During msnbc predator show, does this man come out and say "we fucked up"?????

Wake the fuck up!!!!

 

[bgque12]

well you can't be in denial folks. truth is such events bring a larger black male crowd which in turn creates more violence. my sisters went and i told them i wasn't fuckin with it cause i knew some shit was going to happen...true enough things did and i heard of a few shootouts, with one girl being shot dead at MGM...and i read something about them making a record number of arrests over that weekend...i don't know why black males tend to attract so much violence...it's a culture that HAS to be changed...so to make this into a racial issue may be fair..but i wouldn't say its racist that they wouldn't want to be bothered with a similar crowd...truth is we need to get our act together first...the proof is in the fuckin' puddin...

I'm with you on this one!

 

[7milebreadbaker]

When they had the all star game in atlanta, they closed lennox mall for a few hours because it was too many of us in there. I think the following year they had it in Philly and the Mitchell and Ness store made $1 million dollars in a day from what my friends in Germantown told me. Droves of nergoes really scare people but if you got what they want and make sure security is up to par, you can really make some good money off us in settings like this.

 

[daddy_black]

I love how you can't criticize Black people anymore.

 

[Tony Soprano]

in others words NO NIGGAS ALLOWED

GRAND OPENING!!!.....grand closing.

 

[Soul Brother 1]

Damn That Rap Music!

 

[Duece]

When they had the all star game in atlanta, they closed lennox mall for a few hours because it was too many of us in there. I think the following year they had it in Philly and the Mitchell and Ness store made $1 million dollars in a day from what my friends in Germantown told me. Droves of nergoes really scare people but if you got what they want and make sure security is up to par, you can really make some good money off us in settings like this.

damn I wonder what they gonna do when it gets to New Orleans next year

 

[bigmally26]

They not gonna do anything, niccas from other parts aint stupid enough to come to da N.O. and act stupid. I live there, and i don't fuc wit a lot of them young punks. As for having fun down here, people know where not to go in da city, if they don't, they soon will.

 

[Purgatori]

Shit. He ain't lying.
From people who went, WORST TIME EVER.

I agree with them totally. I went and it was a huge waste of time. I actually left a couple days early.

 

[water]

I love how you can't criticize Black people anymore.

Fuck you self hater.............

MLK come in peace, they killed him

Malcolm X was militant, they killed him

What the fuck, black people have learnt to do what the fuck they want............ WITHOUT the approval of white people.

At the end of the day MGM is losing money from the action of a few black males, NOT black people.

WOW !!!

Compare that to black lives being lost from the action of a lot of white people..............

Fuck them.

What????? If we act right they are going to "accept" us????

They have white high school serial killers every fucking year but metal detectors in urban high schools.

Catholic priest violate little boys on a regular basis for decades and white people still go and confess their sins to these monsters..............

What???? Their shit doesn't stink?????

We have been criticised for 400 years while being fucked over........... you mad?????

Look at this shit:

Iron mask, collar, leg shackles and spurs used to restrict slaves



Is it the face of civilisation that we are taught is "superior"????

It's only here in the US some of us are in the drunken stupor "comfortableness", thh rest of the world knows what time it is...............


Wake the fuck up.

 

[Strait_Laced]

I agree with them totally. I went and it was a huge waste of time. I actually left a couple days early.

damn...missed that 'reche sighting'

 

[Strait_Laced]

i would never co-sign bad behavior from any people, let alone blacks

but the wannabe pimp/baller element is never a good look...ppl trying to impress skirts + liquor + crowds always leads to trouble

...does anybody catch the irony of an industry founded by mobsters trying to 'uphold family values'?

 

[WestCoastin]

I get sicc of the media portraying young blacc men and women as savages....I personally had a good ass time from Thursday thru Sunday afternoon attenting a couple of concerts/parties/comedy shows/All-Star games & events....Vegas is a really small city when compared to other cities that host NBA events...There really isn't anywhere to go besides the Strip or Downtown if
your from out of town.


What the media has failed to mention is that well over half of the 500 or so arrests were for prostitution and the other arrests were for petty crimes, so it was pretty much your average Vegas weekend. I hate how the glamourize Vegas as this magical fantasy place with no crime or illegal activity going on on your average weekend or weekday. You can go just two bloccs east of the strip and find any and everything illegal you could think of. Venturing off into North Las Vegas is another story in itself.


Also, they haven't mentioned what economical impact All-Star weekend had on the city, bringing in an estimated 95 million dollars in non-gaming revenue and another estimated 300 million +/- in gaming revenue. I guess none of these "gangbangers" and "others" spent any money over the course of 3-5 days . That's not even including what was spent on cabs, rooms, and nightclubs/strip clubs etc.


There is no excuse for the shootings or the fights that happened over the weekend. While I haven't heard of any shootings, I've heard of people fighting and being rude during NFR and NASCAR weekend, and considering the amount of 'gangbangers and thugs' that did come from L.A. and Oakland it could have been much worse.

 

[the_monsterous_monster]

...does anybody catch the irony of an industry founded by mobsters trying to 'uphold family values'?

word...I'm supposed to get mad because the MGM is losing money....fuck outta here....I could care less about the kind of element that came out of the woodwork to attend the festivities...they knew what they were getting into...it's common knowledge that NBA All Star weekend is when the wolves come out...easy money doing jukes...so the MGM gets a stiff dick from thy...

 

[daddy_black]

Fuck you self hater.............

Blah Blah Blah fake-militant rhetoric blah blah blah don't look at me, Whitey does worse, blah blah blah can't forget to tie in slavery to every issue blah blah blah the revolution will not be televised

First off...

Second,

Step out of line, take off the beret and listen. All-Star Weekend was atrocious. Where you there? It was terrible and it was mainly niggas with a -er that were the culprits. And now it seems like any Black person who says anything bad about Black people are critiziced as race-traders by ignorant minded cunts like yourself. Black people have fucked up issues, WE have issues and it seems as though we can't even reasonably discuss them without some faux-militant nigga who hasn't done SHIT in his real life for the Black cause coming in and trying to dictate who is "Black" like he's some arbiter of negrodom. Shut the fuck up you over-sensative fake ass Mau Mau nigga. Don't you reaiize you sound just like the White man you hate when you deflect blame like that? "Oh, Why blame Imus, the rappers say worse" sounds just like

Compare [All-Star Weekend] to black lives being lost from the action of a lot of white people..

Maybe you are the one who is a race traitor since you have mastered the White man's tactic of deflect and reflect and change and rearrange. You don't act right for "the White man's acceptance" as you say, you act right because it is the right thing to do. You speak English? Why? I assume you are Black, so your ancestors speak one of 100's of African dialects. Do you speak it for the White man's approval?? The issue isn't about the casino losing money, the issue is that a lot of Black people (not all) went to Vegas and got buckwild.

does anybody catch the irony of an industry founded by mobsters trying to 'uphold family values'?

Very ironic. They really was mad that niggas were cleaning them out on the tables, you know we know odds better than anyone.

 

[VegasGuy]

Bottom line to the whole deal is for a place like Vegas where their money is made by attracting as many people with money (retired, businessmen and women, foreigners, high rollers) to come spend it (give it away) at the casino's, if people are afraid to come, they casinos lose money. Don't get all puffed up because the people that fucked up a good event was black people and white folks are mad about it. How are they supposed to react? Oh well, fuck it?

The mayor begged and pleaded with the NBA to bring the bitch to Las Vegas and finally they agreed to do it. It started out good and many of those businesses were makin' money. Then you got a few dumb asses who probably fuck up everywhere they go, decided to shoot up the place.

Westcostin' quit splitting hairs with this prostitution arrest bullshit. Fuckin' is what made Vegas. Fuckin' and gambling. Last time I checked, fuckin' ain't gunplay. The fact is those bastards were behaving like savages. What do you want to media to show them as? Children blowing off a little steam? That's the problem with us. We keep trying to behave like it's not that bad but fuck you it is. That venue was a perfect opportunity for brothers and sisters to cash in on some real dollars but those idiots you want represented like choirboys seriously fucked all that up for years to come.
BTW, if well over half of the "500" arrests were hoes and petty crimes, what was the other half? Right, them damn idiot friends of yours.

-VG

 

[water]

First off...

Second,

Step out of line, take off the beret and listen. All-Star Weekend was atrocious. Where you there? It was terrible and it was mainly niggas with a -er that were the culprits. And now it seems like any Black person who says anything bad about Black people are critiziced as race-traders by ignorant minded cunts like yourself. Black people have fucked up issues, WE have issues and it seems as though we can't even reasonably discuss them without some faux-militant nigga who hasn't done SHIT in his real life for the Black cause coming in and trying to dictate who is "Black" like he's some arbiter of negrodom. Shut the fuck up you over-sensative fake ass Mau Mau nigga. Don't you reaiize you sound just like the White man you hate when you deflect blame like that? "Oh, Why blame Imus, the rappers say worse" sounds just like



Maybe you are the one who is a race traitor since you have mastered the White man's tactic of deflect and reflect and change and rearrange. You don't act right for "the White man's acceptance" as you say, you act right because it is the right thing to do. You speak English? Why? I assume you are Black, so your ancestors speak one of 100's of African dialects. Do you speak it for the White man's approval?? The issue isn't about the casino losing money, the issue is that a lot of Black people (not all) went to Vegas and got buckwild.

Very ironic. They really was mad that niggas were cleaning them out on the tables, you know we know odds better than anyone.

Wow.............

See how stupid that was???? You proceeded to write an essay after you Colin'ed me.


You co-signed tfresca on some shit,

DeadSerious must be a 14 year old hard core gangbanger sitting on a computer? Dumb shit. We fucked up! Back in the day we used to have some damn sense when we knew people were fucking watching us. Let's try it again.

I called him out:

What the fuck are you talking about "we fucked up"?

Are you a gang banger?

Who the fuck is "we"?

During msnbc predator show, does this man come out and say "we fucked up"?????

Wake the fuck up!!!!

You became critical of me

I love how you can't criticize Black people anymore.

...........and then turn around and say the same shit I was saying

Step out of line, take off the beret and listen. All-Star Weekend was atrocious. Where you there? It was terrible and it was mainly niggas with a -er that were the culprits.

Then went on a diatribe:

Black people have fucked up issues, WE have issues and it seems as though we can't even reasonably discuss them without some faux-militant nigga who hasn't done SHIT in his real life for the Black cause coming in and trying to dictate who is "Black" like he's some arbiter of negrodom.
Shut the fuck up you over-sensative fake ass Mau Mau nigga. Don't you reaiize you sound just like the White man you hate when you deflect blame like that?

From that rant you sound like the over-sensitive one.......


"Don't you reaiize you sound just like the White man you hate when you deflect blame like that?"


Look at that shit you typed.......

I never, NEVER said i hate another human being. if there is anyone that should deserve it though it would be the white collective.

2. You have the message. White people deflect blame.
Now put it into use cause I am fed up of white people demonising black people.



White man fuck up: what the fuck is wrong with HIM

Black man fuck up: what is wrong with BLACK PEOPLE.

i am telling you now, based on that fucked up logic i am going to call you out together with tfresca.


ONE RULE FOR EVERYBODY !!!!!!!!!

A. If a black man fucks up, that is on him just like if a white man fucks up that is on him.

B. If a black man fucks up that is on his race just like if a white man fucks up that is on his race.


Let us choose one option and stick to it.

 

[poorboy]

Did your sisters tell you how muck DICK THEY SUCKED throughout the festive weekend? How much salads they tossed,and cousins/friends/fathers of nba celebs feet the licked? Fuck off pussy.

dudes like you give other good black men a bad name. do us a favor and change your race...we have to eliminate some of this excess baggage and trash that's weighing us down. and my sisters went with their husbands/boyfriends.

"How do you determine when a large black male crowd is good or bad????"
if the crowd is going to see the game, ice cube, 50 cent...any rap artist who curses a lot and/or uses violent language because they have nothing else creative to say....
chances are there's going to be some shit happening

if the crowd is going to see mos def, common, d'angelo,...any musician who can talk about something uplifting without being overly flashy and needing a 10 piece entourage...
chances are a good/peaceful time will be had

as they say...birds of a feather flock together....maybe hardcore/gangsta/rap music doesn't cause or promote violence...but there is certainly a connection somewhere

 

[DreDee]

A. If a black man fucks up, that is on him just like if a white man fucks up that is on him.

 

[Duffle_Bag]

I find it hard to believe that one weekend really fucked up a casino's profit. Sounds like bullshit to me.