Elizabeth Warren rolls out plan to reward hospitals that make childbirth safer for Black Women

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/24/poli...n-american-maternal-mortality-plan/index.html

Sen. Elizabeth Warren wants to drive down the maternal mortality rate among African-American women -- and she has a plan to get it done.

Speaking in Houston on Monday, the Massachusetts Democrat suggested that medical providers should be rewarded with "bonus" funds for reducing those numbers, which are three or four times higher than for white women.

"And if they don't," the presidential candidate said, dropping the carrot to wield a stick, "then they're going to have money taken away from them. I want to see the hospitals see it as their responsibility to address this problem head-on and make it a first priority. The best way to do that is to use money to make it happen, because we gotta have change and we gotta have change now."

Warren's plan, which she discussed for the first time at the She the People conference in Texas, was greeted with sustained applause in a room largely filled by women of color -- a constituency that will likely be key in deciding the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination. The audience quickly warmed to the senator, then sent her off with a standing ovation as she rolled through her growing suite of detailed policy proposals. Perhaps more than any other candidate in the field, Warren has offered comprehensive plans to match her campaign rhetoric, a dedicated strategy her aides and allies believe will ultimately translate into success in the polls.

Warren also spelled out the stakes in a series of tweets, crediting activists for pushing the issue into the mainstream of national politics, then offering her plan: "Hit health care providers in their wallets," she tweeted. "Make it unacceptable for providers to tolerate our high rates of moms dying—especially black moms."

"We've done this in other areas of health care. Let's do it here," Warren added in a subsequent post. "If providers deliver quality care to black moms, they'll make more. If they don't, they'll make less. Don't just observe and debate racism in health care. Make providers pay until this crisis is fixed."

Asked what she would do to address a "crisis that persists independent of education and income," Warren -- in an answer that lasted for more than four minutes and was repeatedly interrupted by cheers -- said that "doctors and nurses don't hear African American women's medical issues the same way that they hear the same things from white women. We gotta change that and we gotta change it fast because people's lives are at stake."

Both Warren and the questioner pointed to the fact that those disproportionately high mortality rates transcended the economic status of the women in danger. The issue recently made headlines outside of medical and political spheres after tennis great Serena Williams went public with her own near-deadly experience in childbirth, saying both a doctor and nurse dismissed her concerns over potentially life-threatening blood clotting -- conditions that were subsequently confirmed with a CT scan.

"I was like, listen to Dr. Williams!," she recalled in an interview with Vogue magazine. The story, and the fact that even one of the most famous women and athletes on the planet endured it, put the spotlight on an issue advocates have been agonizing over for years.

Warren put her own stamp on it, making clear what she believes is at the root of the problem.
"Even after we do the adjustments for income, for education this (problem) is true across the board," she said. "This is true for well-educated African American women for wealthy African American women, and the best studies that I've seen put it down to just one thing: prejudice."
 
Out of all the candidates she is the one who has been actually showing and talking about what policies she would try to implement.

At a certain point, though, with Republicans in control of the Senate and possibly controlling it even if we elect a Dem president and with absolutely no chance of getting 60 votes, there is diminishing return to all these policy proposals.

I think Warren is great but this policy per week strategy is questionable to me. She's not going o be able to get all this passed, so policies 20-45 don't mean as much to me. Trump passed his tax plan and failed on everything else. Obama barely got the ACA through with a much larger majority than the next president will have. This 52 card pick up style of policy releases gives no sense of priorities and seems to be designed to draw media praise and portray her as the "ideas" candidate even though it's too scattershot to gain traction with the public.
 
At a certain point, though, with Republicans in control of the Senate and possibly controlling it even if we elect a Dem president and with absolutely no chance of getting 60 votes, there is diminishing return to all these policy proposals.

I think Warren is great but this policy per week strategy is questionable to me. She's not going o be able to get all this passed, so policies 20-45 don't mean as much to me. Trump passed his tax plan and failed on everything else. Obama barely got the ACA through with a much larger majority than the next president will have. This 52 card pick up style of policy releases gives no sense of priorities and seems to be designed to draw media praise and portray her as the "ideas" candidate even though it's too scattershot to gain traction with the public.
Yeah very valid points but at least she's coming out with some substance. As of right now those policies would have a hard time passing in the Senate but the make up of the Senate could change so at least she's starting from somewhere. She's not polling good right now so she has work to do. We shall see if she can rise in the polls after a few debates.
 
At a certain point, though, with Republicans in control of the Senate and possibly controlling it even if we elect a Dem president and with absolutely no chance of getting 60 votes, there is diminishing return to all these policy proposals.

I think Warren is great but this policy per week strategy is questionable to me. She's not going o be able to get all this passed, so policies 20-45 don't mean as much to me. Trump passed his tax plan and failed on everything else. Obama barely got the ACA through with a much larger majority than the next president will have. This 52 card pick up style of policy releases gives no sense of priorities and seems to be designed to draw media praise and portray her as the "ideas" candidate even though it's too scattershot to gain traction with the public.
Great assessment.

She's still the best candidate. It's a shame how little that matters.
 
At a certain point, though, with Republicans in control of the Senate and possibly controlling it even if we elect a Dem president and with absolutely no chance of getting 60 votes, there is diminishing return to all these policy proposals.

I think Warren is great but this policy per week strategy is questionable to me. She's not going o be able to get all this passed, so policies 20-45 don't mean as much to me. Trump passed his tax plan and failed on everything else. Obama barely got the ACA through with a much larger majority than the next president will have. This 52 card pick up style of policy releases gives no sense of priorities and seems to be designed to draw media praise and portray her as the "ideas" candidate even though it's too scattershot to gain traction with the public.


But id rather know she has a plan than wonder if she does.
 
I like what she's doing... Win or loose she's pushing the conversation forward and hopefully inspiring a new generation of congressmen to follow her....
 
But id rather know she has a plan than wonder if she does.

I like Warren a lot. I also support nearly all of her proposals (her murkiness on the #1 issue, health care and medicare for all, is a huge concern for me, though).

I'm just getting tired of the contrived notion that she's the only candidate with ideas just because she's the only new person emphasizing policy. Sanders has about two dozen different types of policy proposals on his website but there's no splash in "As you already know, I support making college free for everyone and here's my plan to do it."
 
Yeah very valid points but at least she's coming out with some substance. As of right now those policies would have a hard time passing in the Senate but the make up of the Senate could change so at least she's starting from somewhere. She's not polling good right now so she has work to do. We shall see if she can rise in the polls after a few debates.

It's a smart strategy and it's working. I hope she gains more traction.
 
I like Warren a lot. I also support nearly all of her proposals (her murkiness on the #1 issue, health care and medicare for all, is a huge concern for me, though).

I'm just getting tired of the contrived notion that she's the only candidate with ideas just because she's the only new person with ideas. Sanders has about two dozen different types of policy proposals on his website but there's no splash in "As you already know, I support making college free for everyone and here's my plan to do it."


She's not the only one being billed with having ideas though
Her ideas are better
Sanders won't commit to any overtly African American issue
And that matters to me as an African American
 
She's not the only one being billed with having ideas though

That's not true but I may be paying too much attention to folks on social media. I feel like I see that seeping into coverage on places like MSNBC, though.

Her ideas are better
Sanders won't commit to any overtly African American issue
And that matters to me as an African American

I think, while his tone could be a bit better, he's the best candidate for black Americans. What "overtly African American issue" is he not committing to beyond reparations? (Which I promise you will not be enacted under any president who wins in 2020.)

You could have said the same of Obama and I think it's wrong. His answer to the reparations question at the CNN town hall echoed Obama.

After the blowup with West, the president welcomed Al Sharpton and a half-dozen other black hosts and commentators to the Roosevelt Room of the White House. The subject turned to Tavis Smiley, a PBS host (and co-host of a radio show with West) who was also severely critical of Obama. Tom Joyner, a strong Obama supporter and host of the top-rated black talk-radio show, thought that West and Smiley (neither of whom was invited) were causing other blacks to denigrate the president. He began to mix it up with the author Michael Eric Dyson, who wanted the administration to target its efforts more on particular black needs.

Obama jumped in to say he had no problem with Dyson or anyone else disagreeing with him about how to help the needy. What upset him was critics who "question my blackness and my commitment to blacks." He felt the community needed to be a little more sophisticated politically. "If I go out there saying ‘black, black,' do you think that will help black people?" he asked, arguing that Congress would never support legislation explicitly intended for African Americans. His legislative program was aimed at helping all Americans but would disproportionately help blacks: "Pell Grants? Black people. Health care? Black people."

The president's record showed that he had delivered for African Americans far beyond college loans and Obama care. The stimulus saved hundreds of thousands of jobs of state and local workers, a large percentage of them black, and provided $850 million for historically black colleges as part of its aid to higher education. The Fair Sentencing Act of 2010 ended the discrepancy in punishment for crimes that involve the same amounts of crack and powdered cocaine.

The extension of the Earned Income Tax Credit kept millions of the working poor, disproportionately black, from slipping back into poverty, and the extension of unemployment insurance and food stamps helped millions of African Americans. But with black unemployment at 14 percent and 4 out of 10 young black males still caught up in the criminal-justice system, Obama had hardly transformed the community he had sought to join when he was a young man.

In early March of 2013, Sharpton and seven other African-American leaders met with the president in the Roosevelt Room. The issue of whether Obama was pursuing a pro-black agenda came up again. Sharpton told the story of a friend who converted to Islam, then ate a ham sandwich and claimed it wasn't pork. Sharpton told the president, "I said to my friend that day, 'Just because it's not called pork doesn't mean it isn't.' And just because your agenda isn't called pro-black doesn't mean it isn't." Obama was happy to embrace the pork metaphor.
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https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/president-obama-and-black-leaders-its-complicated.738468/
 
That's not true but I may be paying too much attention to folks on social media. I feel like I see that seeping into coverage on places like MSNBC, though.



I think, while his tone could be a bit better, he's the best candidate for black Americans. What "overtly African American issue" is he not committing to beyond reparations? (Which I promise you will not be enacted under any president who wins in 2020.)

You could have said the same of Obama and I think it's wrong. His answer to the reparations question at the CNN town hall echoed Obama.

After the blowup with West, the president welcomed Al Sharpton and a half-dozen other black hosts and commentators to the Roosevelt Room of the White House. The subject turned to Tavis Smiley, a PBS host (and co-host of a radio show with West) who was also severely critical of Obama. Tom Joyner, a strong Obama supporter and host of the top-rated black talk-radio show, thought that West and Smiley (neither of whom was invited) were causing other blacks to denigrate the president. He began to mix it up with the author Michael Eric Dyson, who wanted the administration to target its efforts more on particular black needs.

Obama jumped in to say he had no problem with Dyson or anyone else disagreeing with him about how to help the needy. What upset him was critics who "question my blackness and my commitment to blacks." He felt the community needed to be a little more sophisticated politically. "If I go out there saying ‘black, black,' do you think that will help black people?" he asked, arguing that Congress would never support legislation explicitly intended for African Americans. His legislative program was aimed at helping all Americans but would disproportionately help blacks: "Pell Grants? Black people. Health care? Black people."

The president's record showed that he had delivered for African Americans far beyond college loans and Obama care. The stimulus saved hundreds of thousands of jobs of state and local workers, a large percentage of them black, and provided $850 million for historically black colleges as part of its aid to higher education. The Fair Sentencing Act of 2010 ended the discrepancy in punishment for crimes that involve the same amounts of crack and powdered cocaine.

The extension of the Earned Income Tax Credit kept millions of the working poor, disproportionately black, from slipping back into poverty, and the extension of unemployment insurance and food stamps helped millions of African Americans. But with black unemployment at 14 percent and 4 out of 10 young black males still caught up in the criminal-justice system, Obama had hardly transformed the community he had sought to join when he was a young man.

In early March of 2013, Sharpton and seven other African-American leaders met with the president in the Roosevelt Room. The issue of whether Obama was pursuing a pro-black agenda came up again. Sharpton told the story of a friend who converted to Islam, then ate a ham sandwich and claimed it wasn't pork. Sharpton told the president, "I said to my friend that day, 'Just because it's not called pork doesn't mean it isn't.' And just because your agenda isn't called pro-black doesn't mean it isn't." Obama was happy to embrace the pork metaphor.
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https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/president-obama-and-black-leaders-its-complicated.738468/



Obama isn't running for president so let's stop bringing him up that's to start.
Next That IS THE OVERTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN ISSUE.
Next he's been tone deaf on SEVERAL THINGS that people ignore.
From gun issues to other ones. he's tone deaf and that's a problem.
 
Obama isn't running for president so let's stop bringing him up that's to start.
Next That IS THE OVERTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN ISSUE.
Next he's been tone deaf on SEVERAL THINGS that people ignore.
From gun issues to other ones. he's tone deaf and that's a problem.

Dude, Obama was the last Democratic president. He is extremely relevant to this conversation.

I don't know how you even begin to declare that there is one overtly African-American issue.

I'd say all the people against universal voting rights-- including people in prison-- (meaning every other candidate) are failing to stand up for black equality. I've heard plenty of "tone deafness" there, such as from precious Pete. That's obviously in the eye of the beholder when we're getting into gun issues and all that.
 
I like Warren. (Hate her warbly voice) but I like her ideas and plans. Can she win? Nope. America is sexist as fuck. She'd still get my vote if she wins the nomination
 
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Honestly the person who has the right mind and ideas won't even get any air time so he can't win and that's Yang
he's gonna get drowned out because the media def doesn't want him to be front and center.
But he's the best followed by Warren/Harris/the rest

What do you like about Yang? I know of his main universal basic income proposal but never dove in too deeply since there's never been any hint of viability. (And why do you think the media is against him?)
 
Elizabeth Warren is the only one among the 20 candidates that if elected would really fight hard to right many of the wrongs being perpetrated against people of color.
If people saw the many times she has gone all in on crooks who have had to testify at committee hearings she's been a member of they'd agree. :hmm:
 
Honestly the person who has the right mind and ideas won't even get any air time so he can't win and that's Yang
he's gonna get drowned out because the media def doesn't want him to be front and center.
But he's the best followed by Warren/Harris/the rest
Man. That guy is presidential. They keep trotting out these retreads who had YEARS to do some of the shit they claiming now. Meanwhile, it's like Yang is from the future and came back in time to save the country. Can't get any attention though. :smh:
 
Man. That guy is presidential. They keep trotting out these retreads who had YEARS to do some of the shit they claiming now. Meanwhile, it's like Yang is from the future and came back in time to save the country. Can't get any attention though. :smh:

No attention and on purpose

The gay white man is such a bad candidate says all the wrong shit

But gets the same town halls like Bernie and them
 
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