I think so too. Warren need to sit her ass down somewhere. The young crowd ain't going to take to her.
Elizabeth Warren announces Presidential candidacy for 2020
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No one on the Dem side is famous enough without baggage to beat Trump except Biden and he may be too old
Only if Dems are incapable of playing basic defense and getting on the meme train. That Native Anerican scandal is the weakest shit ever, if the next candidate can't weather that kind of light trolling Dems are fucked regardless imo.
“Trump Got Lucky”: Why G.O.P. Insiders Fear Beto and Biden Over Warren and Sanders
Don’t kid yourself: President Donald Trump could absolutely win re-election. The old man is preternaturally intuitive, resilient when most would wilt, and just plain lucky. Plus, just as Ferris Bueller drove Ed Rooney insane, Trump has a knack for goading his political opponents to self-destruct. But, as I like to caution Republicans, you never know what might happen in 2020 if the Democratic Party nominates a presidential candidate who is likable, trustworthy, and . . . not under investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Perhaps that is why, as Republicans sift through the wreckage of another Trump meltdown, the demolition of their House majority in the midterm elections two months prior, the ouster of James Mattis, and a holiday shutdown over the border wall, party operatives were spending the most wonderful time of the year trying to figure out what it’s going to take to avoid an even worse fate. For as much as some Republicans would like to see the president return to Trump Tower, they’re not willing to give up the presidency. And so, as the 2020 primary season begins, they are beginning to make a list of Democratic candidates that they think Trump can credibly beat.
Without naming names, I asked several senior Republican insiders which Democrat, or Democrats, at the top of the opposition ticket would most reassure them about 2020. Without exception, Elizabeth Warren, the 69-year-old progressive senator from Massachusetts, topped every wish list. “There’s a lot of Hillary Clinton in her,” said a veteran Republican operative in D.C. who hails from the Midwest and keeps a close eye on the heartland. “She’s elitist and doesn’t appear very nimble. It would be hard for her to expand her base or reach directly into Trump’s base.” Close behind were Senators Cory Booker of New Jersey and Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who, technically, is not a member of the Democratic Party.
There’s a theme here. For all of Trump’s faults—and Republicans who make a living trying to win elections tend to be honest about most of them, albeit privately—the United States is still a center-right country, at least according to the data the G.O.P. trusts. And Trump brings a certain gravitas to the job, despite his periodic tendency to diminish the presidency. A lightweight Democratic contender too enthralled with, or captive to, leftist dogma is an opponent that even a politically pockmarked Trump can exploit.
To wit, Trump’s domestic populism, fraught with cultural nativism such as it is, looks far more reasonable when stacked against dubious promises of free stuff (actually financed by the taxpayers, so, not free.) Trump’s “America First” nationalism, fraught with a troubling pullback from the post–World War II, bipartisan foreign policy consensus and disregard for America’s unique role as global protector of the liberal world order such as it is, looks less drastic when stacked against . . . a Democrat who essentially wants to do the same thing, minus the military buildup—and the tweets.
But more than all of that, Republicans are happy to run against any progressive who tries to compete with Trump on Trump’s terms. Exchanging barbs on social media platforms; name-calling; questioning his capacity mentally, physically, and the like. As much as the Democratic base might be clamoring for a standard bearer to force-feed the president a dose of his own medicine, there is no beating the genuine article at the game he perfected. Trump is too quick and too shameless, and that approach offers little change to voters who want to turn the page from the chaos and anxiety that has characterized the current era. “A Democrat is not going to defeat Trump by being more brash, blustering, and strident. They will win over voters they need to retake the ‘blue wall’ states by connecting with those voters on substance but presenting an alternative to his leadership style,” a Republican consultant told me in an e-mail.
Indeed, if there’s a key aspect to the fear Beto O’Rourke inspires in some Republicans, it’s the outgoing Texas congressman’s combination of sunny disposition and 21st-century social media agility. Sure, he’s unabashedly progressive, but to borrow a phrase from Vice President Mike Pence: He’s not angry about it. Nor, as it happens, does O’Rourke look down upon so-called heretics, or, if you prefer, “deplorables.”
Ignore the Beto mockery prevalent in Republican circles during O’Rourke’s near upset of Senator Ted Cruz this past November. Party insiders were taking notes, and taking the 46-year-old from El Paso far more seriously than suggested by the apparent delight they took in lampooning everything about a figure who has drawn comparisons to a onetime up-and-coming Democrat named of Barack Obama. “A Democrat who can carry Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, or North Carolina is problematic,” a Republican insider from a critical swing state said. “Someone like Beto, who can campaign on the fly, raise money, and excite young voters, could put those and other states in play.”
The midterms marked a turning point in the Republican Party’s confidence in the president. During most of Trump’s time in the Oval, his job approval rating has been remarkably stable, poor but not disastrously so, averaging in the low 40s. Throughout, the president has skated from scandal to scandal, any one of which would have hobbled past administrations. As last month’s elections approached, this dynamic, reinforced by the stability of a Republican majority in the U.S. Senate that ultimately expanded by two seats, created a false sense of security about the health of the G.O.P. among many Republicans, even those less than thrilled with Trump.
November 6 provoked a brutal reassessment. Republicans saw their coalition crack, and many senior strategists blame the president. As a few well-placed strategists told me for reporting I did for the Washington Examiner, after-action polling and analysis made it clear that Trump drove away soft Republicans, college-educated Republicans, female Republicans, moderate Republicans, basically every category of Republican not firmly ensconced in Trump’s base, plus crucial independents, handing House Democrats a larger victory than most had predicted, and with it, the majority. The right Democratic presidential nominee could capitalize on that.
And who is that? As often as Warren and her like-styled cohorts were mentioned as easy Trump foils, former Vice President Joe Biden was cited as among the few Democrats who many Republicans believe might dispatch the incumbent with relative ease. Is Biden progressive? Absolutely. Gaffe-prone? Duh. But he is the antithesis of Trump, with the added benefit that he’s been vetted before, and passed muster. “He wreaks calmness and normalcy, which I feel like people crave over the chaos of the Trump administration,” a Republican strategist headquartered in the Southwest said. Another Democrat who fits that bill, more than one Republican volunteered to me, unprompted: John Hickenlooper, the 66-year-old outgoing two-term governor of Colorado, former Denver mayor, and small-business owner. “One of the main disasters to avoid is to think 2016 is like 2020,” the Republican strategist based in the Southwest explained. “Trump got lucky and people held their nose against Clinton. That’s not likely to happen this time.”
The problem for Republicans, lamented a seasoned G.O.P. hand in Washington, is that despite the challenges the Democrats face heading into the next election—a crowded and divisive primary and a restless base not necessarily uninterested in nominating calm, competent, and normal—“is that the Trump apologists won’t put the blame where it belongs and are burying their heads in the sand.”
Of course, countless other Democrats are expected to run for president. Republicans continue to assess the developing field of candidates, many of who either remain an enigma or who engender differences of opinion as to how they would measure up against Trump. For instance, some dismiss Senator Kamala Harris of California as another radical progressive who isn’t ready for Prime Time, even if she’s right out of central casting for Democratic presidential contenders. Others see in her a shrewd operator who could realistically win the nomination and put Trump on defense the same way House Democrats put House Republicans in a bind in the midterm elections.
It’s much the same for Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire media mogul and former mayor of New York City. Here’s a politician with a large enough personal fortune to outspend Trump and the Republican National Committee put together, and the wiliness to overcome his shortcomings. But some Republicans are unimpressed, saying there are few Democrats as polarizing and sure to keep the G.O.P. coalition together the way Clinton did two years ago as would the crusading anti-soda, anti-gun Bloomberg.
Then there are those Republican power brokers who, amid fretting about what might happen down ticket in 2020, neither fear the formidable Democrats nor welcome the weaklings. “Fear is an interesting word because I fucking hate Trump so much,” a Republican consigliere said. “I certainly wouldn’t be sorry to see him lose.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/why-gop-insiders-fear-beto-and-biden-over-warren-and-sanders
As a Texan I can tell you nobody was beating Cruz in Texas... It just wasn't gonna happen. I don't put too much value in that loss because of how retarded the voter base here is
This.... SO THIS...
See below...
Too many Chiefs, not enough Indians
I think there's a mistake in assuming voter turnout is too low bc Dems aren't milktoast enough (Biden etc). Folks are tired of Dems running as "Republican-light". Warren is both mainstream enough to appeal to the boring old fux and interesting/substantive enough to draw progressives out. We'll see how this shakes out but rn she's the clear front runner imo.
Front runner? Lol. Show me a poll that has her even in the top 5
Don't get me wrong I LOVE Elizabeth Warren as a candidate. I would tell my grandmother all the time, " there's your first woman President" when she'd appear on political shows or the news. But these damn Bernie supporters are ridiculous and they will have their candidate or NO CANDIDATE essentially... As somebody said earlier they are cult like in their support of him
Fam, on twitter they are blaming Warren not supporting Bernie for Bernie losing. The problem for Warren is any far left progressive is going tomchoose Bernie in te primary and centrists will choose Beto or Biden. She’ll be squeezed out.
I like her but she probably won't win. She'd be an excellent choice for VP.
I think this is her best bet.
She'll have to hitch her star onto an established male candidate for 8 years, then when his time is up run on a campaign of continuing what he started...
Bruh, you know the money/ruling class are going to hide Bernie again!!
“There are people not comfortable voting for a black man, but that does not make them racist” - Bernard Sanders
Smfh
Get the fuck out of here with that she’s lecturing me bullshit, that logic is why trump is president now, people trying to appease a section of the population who got a 4th education.. no more of that dumb shit..
Yeah if the democrats did not do any funny business and let Bernie win. His base would have came out and trump would have lost. Instead they put Hillary Clinton which is basically a corporate democrat and or republican lite. Nobody was excited
If the dems want to win in 2020 they need to have someone that is on the far left to rally the base. People are tired of the republican lite corporate democrats.
Just like how trump was on the far right. He was talking crazy shit but it rally the base and they were motivated to go out and vote. If the republicans hate put a moderate republican like bush or Cruz. They would have lost!
Democrats have to talk about free healthcare , debt free college, etc.. something to rally people.
Not the same old status quo shit
Right... We said this shit the first time. Even Repubs said he couldn't win, yet... Here we are...
Biden is the best choice period
I don’t know if Pocahontas got this one.
Stop with this Bernie shit he’s just as dirty as Trump and the GOP..
Check who was his campaign manager whom he refuses to talk about, look it up.. dude was working with Paul Manafort while Manafort was Trump’s campaign manager
Mofos was parking hand in hand to peel off Hilary votes, Bernie even admitted he knew Wikileaks was a Russian front and working specifically to prop up trump yet he kept quiet about it
He won because of voter suppression in 3 states with the help of 3 foreign countries..
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Israel
Bruh, I understand what your saying.. Lets be honest, do you really think the two-headed cockroach is going to let a independent progressive get anywhere that president seat?? The two-headed cockroach has spent decades on decades setting this system up for the rich and super rich!!
Let’s see electing a corporate democrat vs electing a mobbed up Charlaton where it’s on record he committed conspiracy against the US gov?
Y’all cats gotta start doing better for real man
And what if Hilary’s base stayed home? And far left politics is not winning in Wisconsin, Michigan, or Ohio. Even Pennsylvania.
Nah their reign is over... they was living off that Russian Oligarc money that was funnelled through the NRA... NRA got infiltrated by a Russian spy who just plead guilty to being a spy.. NRA is damn near defuncted now..
Those RICO charges coming, no escaping that elephant in the room