Eli Manning says OBJ has to step up if he wants the attention
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Man if Vereen going down kills your offense, it was ass. Vereen is good for some dump offs but he hasn't been a game-changer for the Giants. And wasn't like yall blew the Saints out. Yall scored 16 points. Even the Cowboys game was about defense. Yall offense wasn't even averaging 20 points a game over those first two wins.
Antonio gets the same coverage and he still puts up numbers.
Dude said Shane Vereen was the real difference. I'm done.
Right Ben is probably a better rb between the tackles than his son Shane is
but ben can air it out to him
and they move him around and make sure they get him the ball EXACTLY LIKE THEY SHOULD
OBJ had more yards than Brown this year.
20, 16, 27... comes up to 21 points a game
The difference is that OBJ gets a way higher percentage after the YAC. Big Ben can throw down field. OBJ is 7th in YAC. Brown is 28th.
If you put Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers in that offense, are you saying they would both struggle to score more than 14 points on a game?
I said over the two wins. You said the offense was better when yall were winning early in the season. In the two WINS, you didn't even average 20 points. So was it the offense winning the games or the defense?
518 of his yards were yac
Bro Antonio didn't play the last game, you minus whale count the game Ben missed as a game he missed as well. Only an 80 yard difference
you were done when u refuse to answer my question about whose ur actual squad 4 times.. u seem so heavily invested into a giant team that isn't ur squad and have made obvious comments that u obvious don't watch games u read stat sheets..u've went full skip bayless with ur post..the guy that never held a bball in his hand but think he can teach people how to shoot, dribble, pass, and be great.. u sound like an snobbish uninformed cac
I don't foresee Rodgers having any issues cuz he's mobile enough to evade the pass rush. Brady is a better more accurate passer but he'd definitely be less efficient than what we typically see cuz he doesn't do well when he takes hits
I said who my team was pages ago. The shit is irrelevant anyway. We're talking about OBJ and Eli which is the subject of the article nigga. Nice try with that smokescreen bullshit
yall niggas love yall some fucking ELI.. lmbaooooooooooooooooooo
i said odb wasn't doin shit the first 3 games..the first 3 games 20, 16, 27..we lost the 3rd game cause our defense failed us..ya keep saying eli got saved by odb and the defense..yet our d had zero takeaways and no sacks the first 3 games yet eli almost led us to 3 victories without the great defense or odb on fire.. i said once vernee went down our whole offense went to shit..u can see in the numbers it does after he goes out..u obvious are not here to debate facts, logic, or sports ur doin the skip with juss talking to hear urself talk full cac u have gone.. by the way for the 6 time whose your squad???
Turning those 5 yard slants into 60 yard TDs.... padding Eli's stats
the only wr with more yac than him were ones on teams where the wr throw hella screens and the qb is just OK - landry from miami and tate from the lions
everybody else at the top is a fucking running back
That wasn't even the argument anyway. It wasn't about Brown's or OBJ's overall stats. If was the fact that even when they don't put up yards, they have a huge impact on the defensive scheme. So if another WR is getting off, it's not that they're actually beasting. They probably just have single coverage with CB 2 or worst and they're just beating the weak man with the coverage pulled to OBJ's side of the field. Dude was making the argument that the Giant's offense was better early in the season when OBJ was less productive.
Yep and them dudes..especially tate damn near getting used as a fucking running back with how fast he's getting the ball.
Niggas the 2 wins you were talking about were won with your offense averaging less than 20 points. You got damn right it was because of the defense. Do you even fucking understand football? lmbaoo
yall held the cowboys to 20 points and held the Saints to 13
nigga.. go take a break.. that's exactly a defensive win. Yall held two high scoring offenses way under their average while yall still scored below the league average...The average winning nfl team scores 29 points.. your brain is fried right now... lmbaooooooooo
27th in quarterback rating in the 4th quarter this year
There's no blame on this defense.
Offense put up 19 points a game.
Defense gave up 17 points a game
That's how you end up 11-5
Offense put up 19 points a game.
Defense gave up 17 points a game
That's how you end up 11-5
Yesterday their spirits were broken
Rodgers padded them stats at the end. we gone forget it was actually a close game and they got stopped to give the giants a lead in that 3rd and 4th quarter.
Rodgers padded them stats at the end. we gone forget it was actually a close game and they got stopped to give the giants a lead in that 3rd and 4th quarter.
once again we averaged 21 the first 3 games..eli had the squad score 20 twice..the defense allowed 29 points game 3 and allowed redskins to score on the final drive.. we averaged 21 points a game our defense allowed 19 points a game during the first 3 games.. our d had no takeways or sacks how was the defense great ??? how is allowing a team to score 29 points and blowing a lead great??? 19 points first game and 29 points the 3rd game comes up to 24 points a game u consider that great defense???Niggas the 2 wins you were talking about were won with your offense averaging less than 20 points. You got damn right it was because of the defense. Do you even fucking understand football? lmbaoo
yall held the cowboys to 20 points and held the Saints to 13
That's 8 below average for a winning team, champ.
that defense didn't come on strong until the final several games..most people shitted on our defenses when it came to debates.. in fact i remember telling the cowgirl fans we was gonna shutdown dak and they laughed and said how ya gonna shutdown dak when ravens had a better d..nobody had high hopes for the gmen when they went on their 3 game losing streak and was 2 and 3
That's been the case the last few drafts man
that was never me. you can look in the gmen thread when you get time i said that it was worth every penny you spent on them
and it wasn't until the end. they been good all year long
9 games out of 16 teams didn't score over 20 points on them fam
and there was 9 times this year the offense didn't score 20 points.
and you were 6-1 when you scored 20 and above
And yall lost the one game that the defense couldn't win for you. Because your offense scored BELOW the winning average..and the Redskins were literally one of the worst defenses in the league.
yet we average more points the first 3 games than our last 13 games and yet still manage to win 9 out of the last 13 games.. in fact if our offense was moving like it was moving the first 3 games we'd be a diff team..remember we was getting 21 points a game without an odb td or 100 yd game.. add dat to the mix and we a whole diff offense
Yeah man. You absolutely do not trade away picks for a fucking RB right now.
Because of your defense!
Just meant your offense went below average to trash, champ.
we scored 27 points that game ..if ur team defense can't win when you score 27 ur defense sucks u kno that rite..what team allows more than 27 points a game and winsAnd yall lost the one game that the defense couldn't win for you. Because your offense scored BELOW the winning average..and the Redskins were literally one of the worst defenses in the league.
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