Eli Manning says OBJ has to step up if he wants the attention

Yall nigga cop infinite pleas. last season, the Packers had injuries to their left tackle and their other worst graded lineman was their right tackle. Yet Rodgers put up 31 Tds and 8 Ints and what was without his #1 WR who was hurt all season. That's why @largebillsonlyplease was telling you that Rodgers' worst season are better than Eli's best seasons.
whose your team???????
 
so how bad is the backup then?
if this is clearly the worst nigga to ever put on a uniform why did the giants allow this dude to be the worst nigga to ever put on a uniform?
why didn't a coach come in?
do those niggas not watch film but yall do or what?
Our oline depth was so bad we actually resigned Will Beatty whom we let walk during the off season & still didn't play him cuz he couldn't outperform Flowers or Marshall Newhouse. We were actually cheering when Newhouse, who plays RT, got injured cuz he was getting false starts & holding calls damn near every other play & was almost as bad in protection as Flowers.
 
Don't even get me started on my dislike for seeing Jennings run the ball. Every Giants fan on here have been witness to my weekly rants on Jennings as well as Flowers. Even Cowboys fans like @dtownsfinest have seen them & commented on how bad they are essentially piggybacking my rants

Offensive line is the kiss of death man.. In pass protection, your LT absolutely has to be your best pass protector. In the run game, your guards, particularly your RG has be your best run blocker.

In the Giants case, LT and RG are the weak points on the line. Gotta upgrade those spot.
 
Nigga that's what YOU SAID. I didn't make the argument. You said the fucking line was worst last season and that should be the argument made. :lol: Yall niggas so twisted up right now it's hilarious.

Offensive lines are the same in both seasons according to you, but this season he's objectively worse than least season. So what happened?


"Line was just as shitty last year" where do you get "worse"? Understand, I'm not a 100% Eli supporter, but that line is an abomination. Eli has declined. The oline ain't helping. But I can't put yesterday on Eli.
 
Because he was drafted #9, that's why..

Shit, you had McAdoo answering questions about benching him during the middle of the season.

They stuck with him, I don't know why.. but at least they know now that his ass ain't the future at LT

They gave him a chance to fail, he failed.. now he won't be the LT..

That's the only way I see things.

you HOPE
you hope they don't have someone up there saying he can turn it around. THAT does happen
 
Eli has declined. The oline ain't helping. But I can't put yesterday on Eli.

This. And no one arguing the offensive line is good. The real argument is that Eli underperforms for an entire season and throws his WR under the bus who has been saving his ass the last 3 years. Maybe you don't put the blame on Eli for yesterday, but it was OBJ that got them there (offensively) through the season. He wasn't hitting OBJ 30-40 yards downfield. OBJ was turning 5 yard slants into 60 yard TDs.

OBJ drops some balls yesterday. There is no doubt about that... but he also got the Giants there in the first place either catching horrible passes from Eli or turning quick slants into 60 YAC.
 
all gmen fans kno the obvious but u got guys in here acting like jennings is barry sanders and flowers is better than the 90's cowboy o-line..nigs hate eli so much they trying to amp up his teammates like they were great and he was shit..shits funny how much they hate this dude yet that guy led his team to like the 3rd best record in the nfc and had a better record than all these nigs teams whose bashing him

that's not what im acting like at all
im acting like yesterday
Perkins had 10 carries for 30 yards
Jennings had 5 carries for 29 yards
so who should have been getting more carries YESTERDAY
Perkins?
 
Our oline depth was so bad we actually resigned Will Beatty whom we let walk during the off season & still didn't play him cuz he couldn't outperform Flowers or Marshall Newhouse. We were actually cheering when Newhouse, who plays RT, got injured cuz he was getting false starts & holding calls damn near every other play & was almost as bad in protection as Flowers.

Thank you for an explanation finally
 
that's not what im acting like at all
im acting like yesterday
Perkins had 10 carries for 30 yards
Jennings had 5 carries for 29 yards
so who should have been getting more carries YESTERDAY
Perkins?

That should be an easy decision, right? But the media is focused on a fucking boat ride.
 
you HOPE
you hope they don't have someone up there saying he can turn it around. THAT does happen

Look at that niggas footwork. He ain't turning shit around. Both the GM and Coach gave him a no vote of confidence.

MAYBE he has success at guard.. but he can't be a tackle.. not with that sloppy ass footwork and technique
 
Look at that niggas footwork. He ain't turning shit around. Both the GM and Coach gave him a no vote of confidence.

MAYBE he has success at guard.. but he can't be a tackle.. not with that sloppy ass footwork and technique

I understand that. I am saying you never know what these dudes who get paid a lot of money to evaluate talent are going to do otherwise the nigga wouldn't have been on the roster in the first fucking place lol
 
This. And no one arguing the offensive line is good. The real argument is that Eli underperforms for an entire season and throws his WR under the bus who has been saving his ass the last 3 years. Maybe you don't put the blame on Eli for yesterday, but it was OBJ that got them there (offensively) through the season. He wasn't hitting OBJ 30-40 yards downfield. OBJ was turning 5 yard slants into 60 yard TDs.

OBJ drops some balls yesterday. There is no doubt about that... but he also got the Giants there in the first place either catching horrible passes from Eli or turning quick slants into 60 YAC.
first 3 games of the season odb was kinda quiet and yet we still went 2 and 1.. the 1 loss came because the defense couldn't stop the redskins and allow 29 points when the gmen put up 27 points.. offense actually was more wide open until vernee got injured withing them 3 games and the offense was never the same..in fact shep had better numbers in the start more than odb.. so shep/vernee had the offense looking smooth..vernee goes down and we were assed out the running game from passing and running.. jennings wasn't the answer, the playbook got more basic and there goes the offense decline in the nutshell.. now ur stats won't say that but ur eyes would if u was watching the game
 
I understand that. I am saying you never know what these dudes who get paid a lot of money to evaluate talent are going to do otherwise the nigga wouldn't have been on the roster in the first fucking place lol

Our GM can't evaluate offensive line talent for shit.

Hell, we even had Mike Solari as our offensive line coach try and coach him up, and I know he has a lot of respect around the league because he coached those dominant 49ers olines from a few years ago
 
Neither one of them ran it on 4th down....

OBJ could have been called on to convert it with a jet sweep if he hadn't been going on boat rides on his day off. It's his fault. As a matter of fact, I heard they had a wildcat formation with OBJ taking the snap but they pulled it from the playbook because he was on boat rides on his day off.
 
Our GM can't evaluate offensive line talent for shit.

Hell, we even had Mike Solari as our offensive line coach try and coach him up, and I know he has a lot of respect around the league because he coached those dominant 49ers olines from a few years ago

solari is good money.
well maybe he needs to hire someone to draft offensive linemen then.. part of being a good gm is knowing your weakness that's why ours is out on his ass.
i like our line very much. young and talented af
 
OBJ could have been called on to convert it with a jet sweep if he hadn't been going on boat rides on his day off. It's his fault. As a matter of fact, I heard they had a wildcat formation with OBJ taking the snap but they pulled it from the playbook because he was on boat rides on his day off.

Dumb ass dude even caught a kickoff before it went out of bounds and shit
smfh
 
So even though perkins clearly didn't have a feel for the game and Jennings came in and gave the giants attitude and a spark yesterday you'd still want to ride with perkins or jennings for yesterday?
im talking about yesterday only.


Perkins is more explosive. His potential to break one is > than Jennings. Jennings slow ass ain't putting fear in no one. Plus you throw in the oline...please.
 
first 3 games of the season odb was kinda quiet

I don't even know how much that matters considering how much attention he gets. He gets the CB1 and often safety over the top or double coverage. OBJ pretty much gets bracket coverage all season so if someone else is getting off, it's because they're getting single coverage with all kinds of space because OBJ is pulling all the coverage towards him.
 
that's not what im acting like at all
im acting like yesterday
Perkins had 10 carries for 30 yards
Jennings had 5 carries for 29 yards
so who should have been getting more carries YESTERDAY
Perkins?
if dez bryant has zero catches in 3 quarters do you bench him in the 4th cause another guy has 2??? no u play it out.. nobody can predict the perfect scenario.. in yesterday game u keep perkins in.. jennings was a fuckup most of the season and perkins was comin up so u go with the person with the hot hand..keep perkins in win lose this is his learning opportunity
 
.vernee goes down and we were assed out the running game from passing and running.. jennings wasn't the answer, the playbook got more basic and there goes the offense decline in the nutshell.. now ur stats won't say that but ur eyes would if u was watching the game

The running game is ass. I've already discussed that before anyone else did. The stats show that too (26 in run blocking) Yall niggas so caught up in the emotions of this that yall don't even get what's being said.

The only problem yall have here is not willing to accept that Eli has declined.. pretty significantly. Even when he's not under pressure, he's been missing throws he would make 4 seasons ago.

It's a hoe ass move to throw your WR under the bus because he had drops in one game when he pretty much been catching every damn thing (even when they should be uncatchable) over the last 3 seasons.
 
Perkins is more explosive. His potential to break one is > than Jennings. Jennings slow ass ain't putting fear in no one. Plus you throw in the oline...please.

did we watch the same game?
Perkins looked like fucking Trent Richardson out there yesterday. He got most of his yards on 1 carry he broke late in the game
 
I don't even know how much that matters considering how much attention he gets. He gets the CB1 and often safety over the top or double coverage. OBJ pretty much gets bracket coverage all season so if someone else is getting off, it's because they're getting single coverage with all kinds of space because OBJ is pulling all the coverage towards him.
if you watched the games like u said u do u'd kno the offense was flowing way better the first 3 games of the season than the rest of the 13 games.. in fact that's why some of us was hyped yesterday cause eli was looking like his first 3 games somewhat..like i said vernee goin down was the biggest impact on offense than anything
 
if dez bryant has zero catches in 3 quarters do you bench him in the 4th cause another guy has 2??? no u play it out.. nobody can predict the perfect scenario.. in yesterday game u keep perkins in.. jennings was a fuckup most of the season and perkins was comin up so u go with the person with the hot hand..keep perkins in win lose this is his learning opportunity

not even the same argument or conversation. You have multiple wr's on the field at all times you only have 1 rb on the field and can absolutely make a difference.
 
So even though perkins clearly didn't have a feel for the game and Jennings came in and gave the giants attitude and a spark yesterday you'd still want to ride with perkins or jennings for yesterday?
im talking about yesterday only.


Yes, because Perkins probably gets 20 on a Jennings 10 yard carry.
 
The running game is ass. I've already discussed that before anyone else did. The stats show that too (26 in run blocking) Yall niggas so caught up in the emotions of this that yall don't even get what's being said.

The only problem yall have here is not willing to accept that Eli has declined.. pretty significantly. Even when he's not under pressure, he's been missing throws he would make 4 seasons ago.

It's a hoe ass move to throw your WR under the bus because he had drops in one game when he pretty much been catching every damn thing (even when they should be uncatchable) over the last 3 seasons.
for the 4th time whose your team????
 
not even the same argument or conversation. You have multiple wr's on the field at all times you only have 1 rb on the field and can absolutely make a difference.
it is the same argument cause every wr ain't the same and some will have a bigger impact than others.. do u want me to say if barry sanders only got 25 yds in 3 quarters and his backup got 40 you gonna bench barry sanders for the 40 yd runner come 4th quarter???
 
Eli is a real life unadulterated cocksucker. He's been trash for a few years now. Stop living off your brother's legacy. People will say "oh but he won 2 superbowls" but if it wasn't for those defenses, Eli probably would've been replaced a few seasons ago.

Fuck Odell too and the Giants as a label and staff, but I can't stand when bums try to talk slick.
 
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