yup lol he ain't shit. you right.Cats hyping Dray like he the truthHe make 1st or 2nd All NBA I'll give him his due. I still think he a Rondo. Looks better because of the situation he's in.
yup lol he ain't shit. you right.Cats hyping Dray like he the truthHe make 1st or 2nd All NBA I'll give him his due. I still think he a Rondo. Looks better because of the situation he's in.
I actually do. His team sucks but he's producing. One man cannot carry a
Bum team constantly (LeBron and a few others are the exception but they are
all time greats). When a Dude is on a stacked team, it's easier for him to
get his 'stats' because he has other star type players to keep defenses
honest. It's a lot more difficult to defend, and game plan because you have more than one focus. For a player on a bum team, defense can basically say lets focus on him and let everybody else get theirs, so to still be able to produce against the best players in the world, when you
don't have the support system of talent around you to keep them 'honest', I
respect that. Has he won anything, no, but he's produced at a high level
against the best players in the world from day one...
First off we don't know what Demarcus can do in a different environment because he's never been in one. That's your opinion. Secondly the 30 wins is not just on him 1 player can not carry a whole team against Elite Talent night in and night out. Only a handful have done it and those are all time great players. Thirdly having played the game on multiple levels as well as coached it is a lot easier for a player to score get his numbers would ever when he has other players around him and it's a lot harder to game plan for those teams then it is against a team with one option. You can say no pressure but there's no pressure and Red Bull or on a lot of the lower levels but when you're playing in the highest league in the world and you're getting paid Millions to do it there's definitely pressure to produce. We just see things differently. You have your view and you're entitled to it but because you see something differently than I do doesn't make me wrong as my opinion doesn't make you strong. Until we can see cousins on a better team and see how he impacted that's all speculation and opinion and it's not fact. I don't hold him completely accountable for those 30 win maximum and Anthony Davis over his career has had much better teams around him then cousins so that's mixing oranges and apples. Also we need to really chill with that tired make other players around them better cliche. That's just the go to statement to try and make an opinion see more valid. Having been on both sides of the fence being the best player on a bad team and being one of the players on a good team I know the difference from personal experience and my opinion still stands. We just see things differently dudeDude has proven he has no great impact. He's a cool player. He's not a great player. He's not a difference maker. He's not a player you can plug and play and the team is going places.
There are a LOT of dudes who put up numbers on bumb ass squads. Kevin Martin is the KING of putting up 23 a night on teams that don't go nowhere and then disappearing completely on good teams (thunder and now the spurs)
I do not respect a cat who can't get his team out of the lottery. Where 30 wins is a reason to be EXCITED. and you supposed to be a top 10 player in the NBA and top 5 at your position?
I mean Anthony Davis is made of glass but when that glass dude was relatively healthy he LED his team to the damn playoffs at least.
Cousins bench mark is 30 games and that's to be respected? He needs way more help. How many more lottery picks do the kings need? They been in the lottery every year he been there which year will put them over the top? year 15 for him? then they'll get stacked enough?
The jazz done lost everything rebuilt twice and are now in the playoff hunt and we celebrating cousins getting to 30 wins.
And your post is altogether wrong. It's WAY EASIER to hit shots with no pressure and that don't mean anything. Way easier. Teams don't have to game plan for Cousins cause they don't care if he gets his cause they gonna lose ANYWAY. teams don't go in and say we NEED to stop him or we'll lose. They say cousins will get 30 but not really make anyone around him better and we'll blow these weak niggas out.
Anthony Davis over his career has had much better teams around him then cousins so that's mixing oranges and apples.
would it be wrong to give him the mvp![]()
Just great.
Naw. Hard worker hustles his ass off. But he's a great system player. Dray would not change the fortunes of 1 single team in the league that wasn't stacked w talent like GS


Put Dray on the Hawks an they ain't top 3 in the East, but cats acting like he a next level talent. Put him on the Mia they ain't getting better. He rondo 2.0

If they fit the system you can, ask Pop. He been doing just that for nearly 20yrs nowNope... He's a great overall player period. That system stuff is another way to dry-hate on him and any other players who Dudes just don't want to give credit to. Same shit applies to what Steph is doing. Essentially, ALL players for the most part are system players, or is it that other teams just through a ball on the court and run around without any plays, just random make it up as you go stuff.
...and the statement of him not making any other team better or having a big impact is really, ahh... nevermind. Anyway, ANY team, especially a contender would be multiple times better with him on their squad. Run down the list, Clippers, Cleveland, etc. would all be better. The only exception would be SA because they already have Kahwi. Imagine Draymond on the Cavs with LeBron instead of Love and Thompson? Or th? Man please...
We should put an indefinitely hold on the following over used, and for the most part bullshit cliche's:
-System Player
-Makes other players around them better
This shit is only used to try to make a point seem more valid than it is...
Draymond great is a player who is above average in quite a few areas, and the team wouldn't be who they are without him. You can't just plug any player into a 'system' and they excel... Is he an all time great at this point? I don't believe so, BUT he is definitely one of the most versatile players in the history of the league and he does it on a very high level... End of Story...![]()
Nope... He's a great overall player period. That system stuff is another way to dry-hate on him and any other players who Dudes just don't want to give credit to. Same shit applies to what Steph is doing. Essentially, ALL players for the most part are system players, or is it that other teams just through a ball on the court and run around without any plays, just random make it up as you go stuff.
...and the statement of him not making any other team better or having a big impact is really, ahh... nevermind. Anyway, ANY team, especially a contender would be multiple times better with him on their squad. Run down the list, Clippers, Cleveland, etc. would all be better. The only exception would be SA because they already have Kahwi. Imagine Draymond on the Cavs with LeBron instead of Love and Thompson? Or th? Man please...
We should put an indefinitely hold on the following over used, and for the most part bullshit cliche's:
-System Player
-Makes other players around them better
This shit is only used to try to make a point seem more valid than it is...
Draymond great is a player who is above average in quite a few areas, and the team wouldn't be who they are without him. You can't just plug any player into a 'system' and they excel... Is he an all time great at this point? I don't believe so, BUT he is definitely one of the most versatile players in the history of the league and he does it on a very high level... End of Story...![]()
Put Dray on the Hawks an they ain't top 3 in the East, but cats acting like he a next level talent. Put him on the Mia they ain't getting better. He rondo 2.0
Thats your opinion Bruh and it's cool.... The fact that you would even THINK to say he would be a better fit in Cleveland over Love brings pause to your thought processes but cool... You're entitled to it?Lol you named 2 teams with loaded rosters that he could go 2 and do the same thing at. What about the other 28? And i said make a team better. He wouldn't take Cleveland or the Clippers any further in the playoffs than they've already been. Again he'll make a contender better. He ain't built to carry no load though.
Dray is a great system player. Simple as that


You basically validate the point I made that you quoted....If they fit the system you can, ask Pop. He been doing just that for nearly 20yrs now

Thats your opinion Bruh and it's cool.... The fact that you would even THINK to say he would be a better fit in Cleveland over Love brings pause to your thought processes but cool... You're entitled to it?
So, define to me what is a system player?
AND name a few players who are good, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the System they play in. Established players...
There are a few who I will give you. LeBron, Russell, KD, maybe AD...
and please support your contentions with a little common sense logic
So, handle your bizness bruh![]()
Lol please tell me where i said he would be a better fit n Cleveland than love?
And just because you have a lot of free time to type paragraphs don't mean you droppin knowledge homie.
Paul George K. Leonard D. Lillard L. Aldridge C. Paul to name a few. The exact same thing they're doing now they'd do on any team in the league.
If you take the 1st or 2nd best player on a team and replace them with Dray where is that team going? No where.


So the system allows him to stack up triple doubles as such. best system of all time I guess.Naw. Hard worker hustles his ass off. But he's a great system player. Dray would not change the fortunes of 1 single team in the league that wasn't stacked w talent like GS
So, the players you named: None of their teams run plays? They just go out and free lance, their teammates don't run sets, they don't practice sets and where to be at different times, Don't set up plays for iso's and to pull their defenders away, set picks, etc? they just put the ball in their hands and run around the court with no direction right?
And again, your last statement is foolishness, so... you can enjoy wallowing in that nonsense...
But, please do address my first paragraph, the response to your 'reasoning' if thats what you want to call it..
I'll wait?
Put Dray on the Hawks an they ain't top 3 in the East, but cats acting like he a next level talent. Put him on the Mia they ain't getting better. He rondo 2.0
So the system allows him to stack up triple doubles as such. best system of all time I guess.
Selling him short.
He is MUCH more than a role player and he isn't a franchise team #1 player. he's in the middle.
You're lost my G. Obviously. Of course those teams run plays.
What i thought was a pretty simple obviously wasn't.
I'm simply saying if you put those players i named on another team their stat lines would remain

So the system allows him to stack up triple doubles as such. best system of all time I guess.
Selling him short.
He is MUCH more than a role player and he isn't a franchise team #1 player. he's in the middle.

Damn. I still can't believe Tristian compared himself to Green.![]()

He get Klay an Curry shots because they have 3 long ball shooters on the court at all times. He probably get 85-90% of his assists off of them 2 players I bet. Mia and Atl don't have that. Hell I'm struggling to think of a team that has shooters like them. Yall giving dude too much credit is what I'm saying. If he on Miami he ain't getting wade an whiteside more open shots then they getting right now. You don't have to double Dray and the defense gonna sag down in the paint anyway because they don't have a long ball threat.You could though lol cause they need some fucking rebounding they need better defense and he would be the best passer and facilitator on their team off top.
Name another team.
Miami? He'd be point forward again and wade and whiteside would get so many easy shots, how do we know this? Cause he gets steph and klay and bogut easy ass shots.
Keep going.
You just made the point I've been making. He's a in the middle ass nigga. So playing with the best player in the world right now and arguably the 2 best shooters in the game doesn't help him?
So now if he's in say Miami passing 2 wade n Winslow is he racking up those assist numbers to get those triple doubles? Probably not
You're lost my G. Obviously. Of course those teams run plays.
What i thought was a pretty simple concept obviously wasn't.
I'm simply saying if you put those players i named on another team their stat lines would remain

He get Klay an Curry shots because they have 3 long ball shooters on the court at all times. He probably get 85-90% of his assists off of them 2 players I bet. Mia and Atl don't have that. Hell I'm struggling to think of a team that has shooters like them. Yall giving dude too much credit is what I'm saying. If he on Miami he ain't getting wade an whiteside more open shots then they getting right now. You don't have to double Dray and the defense gonna sag down in the paint anyway because they don't have a long ball threat.
He get Klay an Curry shots because they have 3 long ball shooters on the court at all times. He probably get 85-90% of his assists off of them 2 players I bet. Mia and Atl don't have that. Hell I'm struggling to think of a team that has shooters like them. Yall giving dude too much credit is what I'm saying. If he on Miami he ain't getting wade an whiteside more open shots then they getting right now. You don't have to double Dray and the defense gonna sag down in the paint anyway because they don't have a long ball threat.

Seriously Bills, this guy is not making any damn sense?!?! Not a lick of sense.... He accuses Green of being a system player, but, can't define what a System is, and how Green appears to be the only player who benefits from the mythical system, AND prove how whatever GS is doing that qualifies as a SYSTEM, is do much different than what ANY OTHER TEAM in the league does...
Still waiting for a valid response to this simple question Bruh![]()
Also Bruh, to further invalidate your point, Aldridge's numbers are actually lower across the board pretty much this year in SA so... his stat line has NOT remained the same... NEXT![]()
...Phew....
Please, re-read your post, maybe edit it a little bit because if you read it real slow you will see you're not making a lick of sense here Bruh... All due respect...![]()