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Delay Of Report Is Blamed On Politics
Document Suggests Public Health Risks Near Great Lakes

By Kari Lydersen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, February 18, 2008; A03

CHICAGO -- The lead author and peer reviewers of a government report raising the possibility of public health threats from industrial contamination throughout the Great Lakes region are charging that the report is being suppressed because of the questions it raises. The author also alleges that he was demoted because of the report.

Chris De Rosa, former director of the division of toxicology and environmental medicine at the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR), charges that the report he wrote was a significant factor in his reassignment to a non-supervisory "special assistant" position last year.

The House Committee on Science and Technology is investigating De Rosa's reassignment, in light of allegations that it was related to the Great Lakes report and his push to publicize the possibility of a cancer risk from formaldehyde fumes in Federal Emergency Management Agency trailers housing victims of Hurricane Katrina.

De Rosa said his agency cited the Great Lakes report being below expectations as one of the reasons for his removal from the post he had held since 1992. The ATSDR is housed within the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. CDC spokesman Glen Nowak said he could not discuss personnel issues.

The Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit investigative group, has obtained a copy of the draft report and posted portions on its Web site.

Nowak said that there was no set date for publication, and that the release was delayed to address concerns raised by the Environmental Protection Agency and other reviewers last summer.

"Unfortunately the draft (De Rosa) thought was final wasn't provided to the senior scientists and managers of ATSDR until about a week or two before he thought it would be published," Nowak said. "At that point, very senior people not typically in the review process got a copy and had some significant questions and concerns."

Among those concerns was the use of county health data covering a much wider area than locations adjacent to contaminated sites. "Those concerns had been raised previously but did not appear to have been addressed by De Rosa," Nowak said.

Michael Gilbertson, an Ontario biologist who peer-reviewed the report, said political motives are behind the delay.

"This information, which really should have been distributed more than a year ago, is inconvenient to the administration," Gilbertson said. "All science has limitations, but to stress the limitations at the expense of getting this kind of information out to the research community is not in the public interest at all."

The report does not purport to allege cause-and-effect relationships between discharges and disease. But it uses material from government databases to describe toxic contaminants and releases in the Great Lakes region and looks at health indicators, including cancer incidence and infant mortality, in the surrounding counties compared with those in "peer counties" with similar socioeconomic indicators.

The ATSDR initiated the report in 2001 at the request of the International Joint Commission, an independent body that advises the U.S. and Canadian governments on Great Lakes water use and quality issues. In 2000, the Canadian government released a similar report on 17 areas of concern in Canada.

"You can't make cause-and-effect conclusions based on this kind of material, but you can raise questions," said peer reviewer Peter Orris, a professor of occupational and environmental medicine at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

Portions of the report posted on the Center for Public Integrity's Web site say that of more than 100 hazardous waste sites surveyed, two pose "urgent public health hazards" that could cause health problems with less than a year of exposure and 29 pose "public health hazards" that could cause problems with more than a year of exposure.

Among the contaminants logged at different sites are now-banned DDT, as well as PCBs, mercury, lead, cyanide and dioxins.

Breast, lung and colon cancer, as well as infant mortality, were found to be above expected levels near many of the contaminated sites.

The report estimates that 230,000 "vulnerable" people -- defined as children younger than 6, the elderly and reproductive-age women -- live within one mile of contaminated sites in the Great Lakes region, mostly around Lake Michigan.

Spots highlighted include the Fox River in Wisconsin, which continues to be a major source of contamination from polychlorinated biphenyls, though the release of PCBs stopped in 1970; the Cuyahoga River; and Presque Isle Bay, where 50 deteriorating hazardous waste drums are buried.
 
shit im going out to take some picture of lake ontario for yall

its the worse thing ive ever seen

its like three layers of gunk that came from Kodak

chemicals, runoff, and an overproduction of algae

sickening!
 
shit im going out to take some picture of lake ontario for yall

its the worse thing ive ever seen

its like three layers of gunk that came from Kodak

chemicals, runoff, and an overproduction of algae

sickening!

Cool I'd like to see that!
 
That's not the only thing happening. These international. Freights are dropping off contaminants from other countries as well as lifeforms in their bilge tanks
 
Grew up in Chicago...

When we as kids went to the beach, there were dead fish floating around.( I mean a lot)

This was in the 70's

I can only imagine what it's like 40 years later
 
shit im going out to take some picture of lake ontario for yall

its the worse thing ive ever seen

its like three layers of gunk that came from Kodak

chemicals, runoff, and an overproduction of algae

sickening!

I'm from the ROC too. Used to go fishing in the Genny river for catfish, but would never eat them.

Not with all that purple foam floating on top of the water near the Kodak discharge pipe. :smh::puke::smh::puke:
 
Grew up in Chicago...

When we as kids went to the beach, there were dead fish floating around.( I mean a lot)

This was in the 70's

I can only imagine what it's like 40 years later

It's still like that and a lot worse now. If you are a true Chicagoan you know better than to actually go into the water.

I'm surprised at this article. . . but then again I'm not.
 
Grew up in Chicago...

When we as kids went to the beach, there were dead fish floating around.( I mean a lot)

This was in the 70's

I can only imagine what it's like 40 years later

The 70's was the low point for the great lakes, it actually got better in the late 80's, early 90's, but environmental restrictions got lax in the Bush years and things started getting bad again. They suggest you not even get Lake Erie water around the Cleveland area on your skin (but fools still hit those beaches and swim).

Cats need to be wary of the Gulf of Mexico too. I saw a satellite image of the gulf and there is this growing black spot visible from space where everything is dying due to industrial and agricultural run off from the Mississippi and all the refineries and chemical plants. This article I read said so many hundreds of millions of tons of rendered pig fat, feces and fertilizer travel down the Mississippi to the Gulf every year (the rendered animal fat actually forms a yellow foam on the Gulf beaches). They are actually importing shellfish and whatnot that are indigenous to the Gulf from Asia for restaurants on the Gulf because the fish coming out of the area are contaminated (when they can catch shit at all). The Mississippi River is literally America's toilet flushing out to the Gulf.


It's funny, you're safer swimming and living along the Jersey shore than the Gulf or Great Lakes.
 
Nice thread, but um... you got that Wire Season 5 Episode 8?
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shit im going out to take some picture of lake ontario for yall

its the worse thing ive ever seen

its like three layers of gunk that came from Kodak

chemicals, runoff, and an overproduction of algae

sickening!

Lake Michigan = :puke:
 
Baltimore Harbor is fucked too. They say the entire bed of the Harbor was covered in chromium at one point (Diamond Shamrock dumped the shit when they moved), they had to dredge the shit to make it even safe to be NEAR that bitch. They sued Diamond Shamrock for a GRIP to cover the expenses. It's still not safe to be exposed to the water for an extended time.
 
Grew up in Chicago...

When we as kids went to the beach, there were dead fish floating around.( I mean a lot)

This was in the 70's

I can only imagine what it's like 40 years later

Dude Lake Michigan, especially the Indiana side is so contaminated. I aint stepped foot in that motherfucker in 15 years.
 
I'm from the ROC too. Used to go fishing in the Genny river for catfish, but would never eat them.

Not with all that purple foam floating on top of the water near the Kodak discharge pipe. :smh::puke::smh::puke:

I know you been to Durand Eastman and seen hundreds of dead 30 pound bass that just floats ashore

i think we live in the only city in America where the government shuts down our beaches for the entire summer every year

and the puerto ricans still swim in that shit

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
 
I bet that drinking water is some tasty stuff man. Yum yum! :smh:

actually its pretty good

our water filtration systems are the best in the world

but wide open for a terrorist attack

we have reservoirs i can throw rocks in right now if i wanted too

imagine if i had some world class chemicals

:smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
The main problem with all this is polluted or not the Great Lakes are still the largest source of Fresh Water in The World....

I doubt that any mountain supplied water system can substain The population of this country......

This shit should be a priority for everybody....ie clean up The Great Lakes
 
The main problem with all this is polluted or not the Great Lakes are still the largest source of Fresh Water in The World....

I doubt that any mountain supplied water system can substain The population of this country......

This shit should be a priority for everybody....ie clean up The Great Lakes

All jokes aside, you are on point.
 
actually its pretty good

our water filtration systems are the best in the world

but wide open for a terrorist attack

we have reservoirs i can throw rocks in right now if i wanted too

imagine if i had some world class chemicals

:smh::smh::smh::smh:

I never understood why D.C. (of all fucking places) had an open air reservoir.:smh:
 
I saw on TV how the one of the Great Lakes is used for drinking water by some city.

I also heard some people use the Mississippi river for drinking water in some places!

Yuck! :puke:
 
Damn, Midwest is resembling a certain river in China.

This is some Michael Clayton stuff right here.
 
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