Colorado Teen Who Allegedly Shot Woman in Head 20 Times With AR-15 Over Fender Bender to Be Tried as Adult
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My response is in section 3. In DC it relates to handguns but the same rationale could be applied to a higher power weapon in a different locality, say, a farming county in Texas where most people may own higher powered weapons.
I'm out though, you guys got it. Good discussion to those who didn't get panties in a bunch.
For those talking about law-abiding citizens, remember 90% of the illegal guns in the hands of criminals started off as legally purchased weapons purchased by "law-abiding citizens" Those who can legally purchase them.
And you would be a total idiot thinking that a .223 or 5.56 used as home protection is dumb as fuck and will result in the killing of those you think you are protecting when those rounds go through all the walls in your home.
And you would be a total idiot thinking that a .223 or 5.56 used as home protection is dumb as fuck and will result in the killing of those you think you are protecting when those rounds go through all the walls in your home.
At least. Several years ago it was in the top 5 spenders but has since been surpassed by, well...
People really need to be concerned about education because just a little research will show you who's got the lease on your ELECTED representatives. But lack of critical thinking leads to, well, 1/6.
Of course I do. The NRA just filed for bankruptcy and their leadership stepped down. Their lobbying has faltered badly in the last few years and the palms they've greased for years has gone empty. It's culmative force that keeps gun laws stuck...the NRA has had their hand in that for years
Now here you can read the publicity spin (read: bullshit) they claim their donations are for.
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Well, we can do nothing (which everyone is okay with doing) and wait until it's you (not you directly) get that phone call about your kids (or kids in your family) gunned down in school. Or your family member caught in the cross fire from some angry lover aiming for their ex.
I think eventually, as the population changes (attitudes and values) then we'll see movement.
There are a number of options that should be considered but for some reason aren't. A lot of political pandering and BS legislation that isn't getting anything done except leaving the people actually being affected to deal with the repercussions.
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FROM THE ARTICLE:
2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.
Ya know, as a southern dude that's carried guns long before I was legally supposed to... as well as once I hit 18 and 21... as I've gotten older and just come to realize the way shit really works here in this country that the whole gun shit is downright some bullshit. It doesn't really hit you until you go somewhere that you can do all of the normal shit like go to school, go to work, go to the park... or play outside at night and simply not have to worry about being shot. 20 years ago I would've argued against any type of gun control but realistically?
I'd honestly rather be somewhere that you really don't even need one. That never seems to even come across Americans minds as that being a possibility. All that, in the name of capitalism. It's at the point now that these types of stories aren't even breaking news all the time. I've experienced that peace of not having to worry twice now and imma tell ya... it is a pretty damn nice feeling lol. You start realizing how much built up trauma and shit you really have.
I'd honestly rather be somewhere that you really don't even need one. That never seems to even come across Americans minds as that being a possibility. All that, in the name of capitalism. It's at the point now that these types of stories aren't even breaking news all the time. I've experienced that peace of not having to worry twice now and imma tell ya... it is a pretty damn nice feeling lol. You start realizing how much built up trauma and shit you really have.
Great post.
I just got back from Curaçao and ran into Europeans and Canadian and they all said they wouldn't want to live in America. Not only because of the horrible politics but because of guns. Dutch guy asked me "how can you live like that in your country?"....
The whole week I thought about how unsafe this country is.
Parking lot? It's gonna be more like a turnpike, only it's gonna be cigarettes and ramen noodle packets instead of money for the toll.
In Japan, it's illegal for anyone to have a gun, but remember when that guy took out the former PM with a homemade gun?
One guy dead? Millions of Japanese still alive and not shot. Not a good counter-argument
Not trying to get in any argument at all. I just think that it's interesting how different their culture and mindset is compared to ours in terms of guns.
I'm sure that won't backfire on people of color lmao I almost wish they would ban semi auto rifles just so I could hear the next game plan when that fails in stopping or minimizing mass shootings. The kids in Columbine mostly used handguns and shotguns mixed with improvised explosives, how many lives would a "assault rifle" ban save from someone willing to walk into a school full of kids with explosives and a shit ton of guns and ammunition?
What I'm getting at is the only thing that would work would be a full ban on guns and I Guarantee we will never see that in our lifetime somehow about we work on real solutions.
This isn't a good comparison, and it's one I see anti gun people make a lot which is silly since murder, rape and stealing serve no purpose whatsoever in society where as guns can be used in a number of lawful ways.
No it's not. Your argument is killing can't be stopped period, therefore laws making it harder to kill are unrealistic.
Your argument also doesn't make sense in other ways. Knives have useful purposes yet there are still certain ones I can't carry legally. Cars serve useful purposes but there are still certain ones I am not allowed to drive on city streets. Medications serve useful purposes yet certain meds can't just be randomly passed around. I can go on and on about lawful products having legal limits set for them. Why should guns be any different?
Nah, if guns were not so easily accessible these nerdy incels who keep shooting up schools would not have the balls to step to anyone.
20 fucking times.
My argument is that In a country with a constitutionally protected right to bare arms we will never outlaw all gun, which is the only kind of ban that will help stop mass shootings as the type of gun being used isn't the root of the problem and we all know that, radicalization of our youth and adults on the Internet, lack of mental health care, lack of opportunities and an economy that makes most wage slave, a healthcare system that is a complete joke, society valuing vanity over anything resembling morals, women and men being radicalized and turned against each other creating the "incells issue" all those things combined are what's creating mass shooters, but that's a hard problem to solve so the easy scapegoat becomes assault rifles.
To your second point it absolutely makes sense and mirrors my problem with a gun ban, banning certain knives does nothing when I'm most states you can walk around with incredibly deadly knives that are as deadly or even more deadly than a lot of the often banned knives, which were mostly banned over misguided public hysteria and a lack of understanding, the others aren't weapons so it's not apples to apples so I won't even bother addressing those, also those aren't constitutionally protected rights like the right to bare arms so again it has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
I'm just saying we need to look for actual solutions, like most people im tired of seeing the senseless loss of life but I'm just not convinced banning firearms will have any effect on the higher issue. And as suspicious I am of more regulations(especially since they've historically worked against minorities) I am for figuring out a way to keep guns out of the hands of people with serious mental health issues.
You're missing the point. An AR-15 allows someone with impulse control issues to kill 20 people easily.
A sword or a crossbow doesn't and its not even close.
Australia did it, and they rarely have mass shootings today. Canada has done the same thing. So there are examples of countries that have banned guns or put extreme limitations on types and ammo size, and they've seen a drop in gun deaths (after they previously had zero gun bans).
Arguing "it won't make a difference", when we have REAL-WORLD examples where it did, says otherwise.
Again, the shit shouldn't be a "right". What should be a right, is the right to live in peace without getting your head blown off.
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Australia have a full gun ban? Which I did mention would absolutely work, except for the fact that that will never happen in this country, at least not in our lifetime. Those countries also never really had a mass shootings problem to begin with so it's not like there was much to fix, we need solutions that addresses that fact/question, Why are so many Americans willing to carry out mass murder suicide missions? We answer that and we have somewhere to start.
" Shouldn't be a right" doesn't matter, it is a right and one that most citizens will vote to protect. that throws a audible into any solution we have for our mass murder problem and makes it so we can't just take the easy rout and ban all guns.
The answer is: They have unfettered access to guns.
All other countries have video games, mental illness, drug use and white children, what they don't have is unfettered access to guns.
Why do you think so many people in the UK get stabbed up? They have some of the strictest gun laws in the world. They don't have mass shootings, they have mass stabbings. People will find a way to kill. If we banned guns/knives we would have mass hammer beatings.
Once again y'all keep missing the point.
The UK will have a mass stabbing and to them a mass stabbing is all of three maybe four people at most killed. We have one dude with an AR-15 going into a school and killing 25, 30 or even 40 people. That's why people talk about gun control especially when it comes to assault rifles.
It's not that people are going to stop trying to kill others it's how easy it is to kill massive amounts of people.
If you don't believe me here is a list of mass stabbings in the UK. The largest number of people killed is 6. SIX PEOPLE.
List of mass stabbings in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
mass killings ain't being done with an assortment of knives.
Also, I don't really understand the argument that limiting access to one particular weapon is an "assault" on the constitution.
The only person talking about banning firearms in this conversation is you. My argument has been specifically about limiting general access to one particular firearm.
It's not an assault on the constitution, it's a slippery slope(that will keep than likely be used against people of color all while white people stock up on guns and threaten civil war) it won't work the way you think it will, Semi auto rifles aren't the problem.
That's because banning all guns is the only ban that'll have any effect on mass shootings and obviously that's not happening so I suggest we address the actual source of the problem which is not semi auto rifles. Hell at this point mother fuckers are 3d printing guns. but hey, I'd be down to try it just as an experiment and to see what the next move is for all you who see the AR as the Boogeyman and not, you know, the actual boogyman aka white radicals and hopeless lost individuals with mental health issues.
I'm not missing shit. Your argument about banning ARs to prevent mass shootings is akin to banning Toyotas to prevent vehicular homicides. Say you did ban semi-auto rifles, there are 1000 other types of firearms a person could still legally purchase to kill as many if not more souls as 1 AR could. I could tear some ass with a .22 Henry repeater. The solution to stopping mass shootings in the US is not to ban Armalite Rifles (that AR doesn't stand for "Assault Rifle" no matter what the news tells you) and frankly I don't know what it is, I've just accepted my reality and prepare accordingly. Either that or go join Idris Elba and his efforts to stop knife crime in the UK. WTF are they gonna do, go take all the Henckels and Sabatiers off the shelf?Once again y'all keep missing the point.
The UK will have a mass stabbing and to them a mass stabbing is all of three maybe four people at most killed. We have one dude with an AR-15 going into a school and killing 25, 30 or even 40 people. That's why people talk about gun control especially when it comes to assault rifles.
It's not that people are going to stop trying to kill others it's how easy it is to kill massive amounts of people.
If you don't believe me here is a list of mass stabbings in the UK. The largest number of people killed is 6. SIX PEOPLE.
List of mass stabbings in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
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His emotions got him and you know no man raised him. He used emotions over logic. Dude was an emotional beeatch!
Okay, ban all assault rifles and do like Canada:
As of November 2023, Canada's magazine capacity restrictions for firearms are:
- Handguns: Maximum of ten rounds
- Semi-automatic rifles: Limited to five rounds
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