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Bomani Jones: PAC-12 fighting for student athlete rights & postpones season UPDATE: BIG 10 done too
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Bomani Jones: PAC-12 fighting for student athlete rights & postpones season UPDATE: BIG 10 done too
"Players of the Pac-12 say they will opt out of season over concerns of COVID-19" https://twitter.com/i/events/1289952183413137410?s=09
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you would think they learned from mlb but....First the MAC, UConn, now the Big Ten. Smart moves as others who decide to play will wait until players and the coaching staff gets sick and rethink their decision to push on.
The big schools are willing to pay it. Nebraska's AD came out quick, that they will look in to other possibilities
That tells you exactly how much money college football makes these schools.
SEC needs to go on ahead and let teams whose conference decide not to play, come play in the SEC for a year.
I dont follow. These white kids are getting paid AND they are on scholarships? In what sport?
Also, the college football kids are getting a free education. It literally is free.
Bomani Jones: PAC-12 fighting for student athlete rights & postpones season UPDATE: BIG 10 done too
"Players of the Pac-12 say they will opt out of season over concerns of COVID-19" https://twitter.com/i/events/1289952183413137410?s=09
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College baseball (mostly white sport) players like Chris Weinke can sign minor league deals and retain their college eligibility.
College golfers and tennis players get endorsements and still retain their eligibility.
Big Ten nixes fall football season, eyes spring
The Big Ten Conference has decided to postpone all fall sports, including football, and will look to play those sports in the spring.
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"All the decisions we would make during my tenure here will always put the mental and physical health and wellness of our student-athletes at the center," Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren told Big Ten Network. "We just believed collectively there's too much uncertainty at this point in time in our country to encourage our student-athletes to participate in fall sports.
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"... It doesn't mean that we're giving up forever. We continually have to gather information and look forward to the future. But there's so much uncertainty. This is a very, very trying time. This is one of those days you really hope in your career you never have to deal with these kinds of issues. But that's not the case in life. We have to deal with the issues presented in front of us."
Later Tuesday, Pac-12 presidents and chancellors followed the Big Ten's lead and also voted to postpone the conference's fall sports season, including football. Stadium was the first to report the Pac-12's decision.
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Officials with the ACC and SEC have indicated they plan to proceed with seasons this fall, but it's unclear whether the Big Ten's decision will change those plans. As for the Big 12, it's not entirely clear what the conference's intentions are, as some of its member schools seem to be divided on whether to play this fall or try to go in the spring.
In making its decision, the Big Ten said it relied on the medical advice and counsel of the Big Ten Task Force for Emerging Infectious Diseases and the Big Ten Sports Medicine Committee.
"Our primary responsibility is to make the best possible decisions in the interest of our students, faculty and staff," Morton Schapiro, the chair of the Big Ten Council of Presidents/Chancellors and Northwestern University president, said in a statement.
The University of Nebraska, after Cornhuskers coach Scott Frost on Monday said his program is prepared "to look at any and all options" in order to play this fall, issued a joint statement Tuesday saying "we are very disappointed in the decision by the Big Ten."
"We have been and continue to be ready to play," said the joint statement from Nebraska chancellor Ronnie Green, president Ted Carter, athletic director Bill Moos and Frost. "Safety comes first. Based on the conversations with our medical experts, we continue to strongly believe the absolute safest place for our student athletes is within the rigorous safety protocols, testing procedures, and the structure and support provided by Husker Athletics.
"... We hope it may be possible for our student athletes to have the opportunity to compete."
Warren, who on Tuesday said he took Frost's statements "as a point of passion," would not say whether the vote to cancel the fall season was unanimous.
"Our schools, we don't always agree, but people understand ... that we will be together in the Big Ten," Warren said.
Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh also expressed disappointment in the decision. "Our student-athletes and coaches want to compete," he said in a statement. "They have committed, trained and prepared their entire lives for this opportunity, and I know how much they're disappointed at this time. I share in their disappointment today."
Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said he and university president-elect Kristina Johnson were in agreement to delay the start of the fall sports seasons instead of postponing to the spring.
"This is an incredibly sad day for our student-athletes, who have worked so hard and been so vigilant fighting against this pandemic to get this close to their season," Smith said. "My heart aches for them and their families. President-elect Johnson and I were totally aligned in our efforts to delay the start of the season rather than postpone. I am so grateful to her for all her efforts in support of our student-athletes and a traditional fall season.
"As an institution and as an athletic department, we have a responsibility first and foremost to care for the health, safety and wellness of our students and staff, and I believe we have done that successfully."
Buckeyes quarterback Justin Fields, considered a Heisman Trophy contender and a top-four NFL draft prospect by ESPN draft analysts Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay, made his feelings known about the Big Ten decision on Twitter.
It's still unclear how the decisions by the Big Ten and Pac-12 will impact the College Football Playoff. Any decisions about the structure or format of the four-team playoff are made by the CFP Board of Managers, which is composed of 11 university presidents and chancellors -- including Penn State's Eric Barron and Washington State's Kirk Schulz.
"It's too soon to say what the implications will be," CFP executive director Bill Hancock told ESPN. " We will wait for guidance from the CFP board and management committee."
Besides football, other sports affected are men's and women's cross country, field hockey, men's and women's soccer and women's volleyball.
"The COVID-19 pandemic has impacted every aspect of our lives, both personally and professionally. For many students and staff, it has brought anxiety and stress and we are all looking forward to a time when things begin to look and feel more 'normal,'" University of Wisconsin chancellor Rebecca Blank and athletic director Barry Alvarez said in a joint statement.
"For many months, we had hoped that the return of fall collegiate sports might be an opportunity to restore some sense of normalcy and provide brighter moments. ... Even so, today's decision by the Big Ten to postpone the fall 2020 sports season is the correct one."
They cant do both at the same time bruh.
For example, Kyler Murray couldn't touch his baseball money while he was still at Oklahoma. They just had his rights.
In golf and tennis, you are either on the amateur tour or you are in the NCAAs but not both at the same time.
Im hoping these kids dont drop out en mass to "prepare for the draft".
'Disappointed and deeply concerned,' Pac-12 players relay anger toward Larry Scott
A group of Pac-12 players sent a letter to Larry Scott saying they didn't think the he was taking their concerns over the coronavirus seriously.
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Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott, players leading #WeAreUnited movement offer conflicting accounts of meeting, path forward
Scott and players exchanged letters Friday that offered conflicting views on the progress made during a group video call.
Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott, players leading #WeAreUnited movement offer conflicting accounts of meeting, path forward
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Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott speaks during the Pac-12 NCAA college basketball media day, in San Francisco in this Oct. 8, 2019, file photo. The commissioners of the Atlantic Coast Conference, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern Conference say they have been in almost constant contact since the NCAA men's basketball tournament was canceled on March 12. "Based on the very positive and close collaboration among the leaders in college football and discussions with schools, other leagues and the medical community, at this point in time we are planning to start the football season on time and together on a national basis,” Scott said. (AP Photo/D. Ross Cameron, File)AP
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EUGENE — Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott and players leading the #WeAreUnited movement within the conference exchanged letters Friday that offered conflicting views on the progress made during a group video call Thursday night to discuss the players’ demands and concerns related to health and safety guidelines, eligibility and compensation.
In his letter to 17 players leading the movement, Scott thanks them for meeting with him, Arizona State athletic director Ray Anderson and Utah athletic director Mark Harlan Thursday night to express their concerns and says the conference hopes it can “provide answers to many of those questions as well as provide additional opportunities to engage on matters of importance to you” and addresses health and safety, eligibility, liability waivers and opting out due to COVID-19 concerns.
Scott notes the conference compiled a list of questions the players had regarding testing protocols and writes the league “will work with our Pac-12 medical advisory committee to answer them in the very near future. We will work with the committee to ensure that you have an opportunity to speak with them about your concerns, as it is more appropriate for the medical it’s experts to answer questions of health and safety pertaining to COVID-19.”
The players offer a starkly different account from the meeting, which came four days after their demands were initially publicized in The Players Tribune and three days after they first wrote Scott, a timeframe they are still not pleased with.
“We were all left disappointed and deeply concerned that you are not taking this matter seriously,” the players write Scott. “Specifically, you informed us that we cannot be daily testing, nor can they be regular testing since you claim necessary test for ‘unavailable’ and that it would be ‘impossible’ to mandate testing and best practice COVID precautions conference wide.”
The Pac-12 as the first conference to mandate COVID-19 testing and antibody testing of all athletes upon their return to campus for voluntary workouts earlier this summer and periodically thereafter.
The Big Ten announced this week it would be testing its athletes at least twice per week during the season and the SEC is reportedly also going to test players multiple times each week during the season.
“Without a discernible plan and mandates to ensure the health and safety of student-athletes,” the players write Scott, “it is absurd, offensive, and deadly to expect a season to proceed.”
According to the players’ letter, Oregon safety Jevon Holland told Scott, Anderson and Harlan Thursday, “Our deepest fear is the Pac-12′s negligent return to play may result in a member of our Pac-12 family dying due to COVID-19.”
The players claim Scott told them it is “impossible to have mandatory, uniform COVID health and safety standards to protect college athletes.” The conference issued protocols for its schools before players returned to campus earlier this summer and each school has been working with the conference’s medical advisory committee and state and local health officials.
“It is baffling to hear that health and safety mandates will not exist in the Pac-12,” the players write. “Your response to our concerns ‘if you feel unsafe, just opt up and go home,’ is not an acceptable answer and proves there are severe inconsistencies in the Pac-12′s standards and its commitment to protect in college athletes under its watch.
“The Pac-12 has a proud history, but this is not a proud moment. You’re asking student athletes who are unpaid but deeply committed to their respective sport and institutions to risk their lives without a plan.”
The players claim “unlawful retaliation” by Washington State against Dallas Hobbs and Kassidy Woods, who they claim were dismissed and had their scholarships jeopardized for supporting the players’ movement. Washington State denied that, according to the Spokesman Review.
During a call with Washington State coach Nick Rolovich, the audio of which was recorded by Woods and released to multiple media outlets, Woods opted out of the season, citing sickle cell, but said he wasn’t going home to Texas because he still wanted to practice with the team, which Rolovich said was not possible. Rolovich went on to ask Woods if he was affiliated with the players’ movement, which had yet to publicize its demands, and cryptically inferred that could jeopardize Woods’ position with the program in the long-term.
“While we are discouraged by the tone, tenor, and general unpreparedness of the Pac-12 leadership during our meeting, there is still an opportunity for the Pac-12 to change course before leading the conference into disaster,” the players write.
“We look forward to hearing from you soon as time is of the essence.”
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Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott speaks during the Pac-12 NCAA college basketball media day, in San Francisco in this Oct. 8, 2019, file photo. The commissioners of the Atlantic Coast Conference, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern Conference say they have been in almost constant contact since the NCAA men's basketball tournament was canceled on March 12. "Based on the very positive and close collaboration among the leaders in college football and discussions with schools, other leagues and the medical community, at this point in time we are planning to start the football season on time and together on a national basis,” Scott said. (AP Photo/D. Ross Cameron, File)AP
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EUGENE — Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott and players leading the #WeAreUnited movement within the conference exchanged letters Friday that offered conflicting views on the progress made during a group video call Thursday night to discuss the players’ demands and concerns related to health and safety guidelines, eligibility and compensation.
In his letter to 17 players leading the movement, Scott thanks them for meeting with him, Arizona State athletic director Ray Anderson and Utah athletic director Mark Harlan Thursday night to express their concerns and says the conference hopes it can “provide answers to many of those questions as well as provide additional opportunities to engage on matters of importance to you” and addresses health and safety, eligibility, liability waivers and opting out due to COVID-19 concerns.
Scott notes the conference compiled a list of questions the players had regarding testing protocols and writes the league “will work with our Pac-12 medical advisory committee to answer them in the very near future. We will work with the committee to ensure that you have an opportunity to speak with them about your concerns, as it is more appropriate for the medical it’s experts to answer questions of health and safety pertaining to COVID-19.”
While Scott goes on to address the matter of eligibility for players who opt-out of the season or if the season is canceled, he notes the NCAA Division I Council will need to address the matter further during its meeting Wednesday. He maintains that Pac-12 schools have assured the conference that they have not administered COVID-19 liability waivers and says if made aware of such practice it will inform the school the waiver is “unenforceable.” Regarding players opting out of playing this season, Scott refers players to each school’s athletic leadership for its department policies, but notes that players’ scholarships are protected.
The players offer a starkly different account from the meeting, which came four days after their demands were initially publicized in The Players Tribune and three days after they first wrote Scott, a timeframe they are still not pleased with.
“We were all left disappointed and deeply concerned that you are not taking this matter seriously,” the players write Scott. “Specifically, you informed us that we cannot be daily testing, nor can they be regular testing since you claim necessary test for ‘unavailable’ and that it would be ‘impossible’ to mandate testing and best practice COVID precautions conference wide.”
The Pac-12 as the first conference to mandate COVID-19 testing and antibody testing of all athletes upon their return to campus for voluntary workouts earlier this summer and periodically thereafter.
The Big Ten announced this week it would be testing its athletes at least twice per week during the season and the SEC is reportedly also going to test players multiple times each week during the season.
The players insist the conference has not confirmed in writing that liability waivers are not permitted, though the league has consistently maintained they are not, and claim to be aware of Pac-12 schools “seemingly still utilizing what can only be described as COVID liability waivers” but do not cite the alleged programs.
“Without a discernible plan and mandates to ensure the health and safety of student-athletes,” the players write Scott, “it is absurd, offensive, and deadly to expect a season to proceed.”
According to the players’ letter, Oregon safety Jevon Holland told Scott, Anderson and Harlan Thursday, “Our deepest fear is the Pac-12′s negligent return to play may result in a member of our Pac-12 family dying due to COVID-19.”
The players claim Scott told them it is “impossible to have mandatory, uniform COVID health and safety standards to protect college athletes.” The conference issued protocols for its schools before players returned to campus earlier this summer and each school has been working with the conference’s medical advisory committee and state and local health officials.
“It is baffling to hear that health and safety mandates will not exist in the Pac-12,” the players write. “Your response to our concerns ‘if you feel unsafe, just opt up and go home,’ is not an acceptable answer and proves there are severe inconsistencies in the Pac-12′s standards and its commitment to protect in college athletes under its watch.
“The Pac-12 has a proud history, but this is not a proud moment. You’re asking student athletes who are unpaid but deeply committed to their respective sport and institutions to risk their lives without a plan.”
The players claim “unlawful retaliation” by Washington State against Dallas Hobbs and Kassidy Woods, who they claim were dismissed and had their scholarships jeopardized for supporting the players’ movement. Washington State denied that, according to the Spokesman Review.
During a call with Washington State coach Nick Rolovich, the audio of which was recorded by Woods and released to multiple media outlets, Woods opted out of the season, citing sickle cell, but said he wasn’t going home to Texas because he still wanted to practice with the team, which Rolovich said was not possible. Rolovich went on to ask Woods if he was affiliated with the players’ movement, which had yet to publicize its demands, and cryptically inferred that could jeopardize Woods’ position with the program in the long-term.
“While we are discouraged by the tone, tenor, and general unpreparedness of the Pac-12 leadership during our meeting, there is still an opportunity for the Pac-12 to change course before leading the conference into disaster,” the players write.
“We renew our request for uniform mandatory health and safety protocols consistent with best scientific practices, eligibility guarantees, written confirmation that COVID liability waivers will not be used and/or enforced, the right to have legal representation present at meetings, the scheduling of daily meetings and regular updates, and building an equitable framework for the treatment of college athletes.
“We look forward to hearing from you soon as time is of the essence.”
President Donald Trump says it'd be a 'tragic mistake' to cancel the fall college football season
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Appearing Tuesday morning on Fox Sports Radio, Trump cited the youth and overall health of college players as factors that will help them avoid the most serious symptoms of the coronavirus.
"These football players are very young, strong people, and physically, I mean they're physically in extraordinary shape," Trump said in the interview. "So they're not going to have a problem, you're not going to see people, you know, could there be? Could it happen? But I doubt it.
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"So I think football is making a tragic mistake," Trump later added.
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Trump's comments came before the Big Ten and Pac-12 became the first Power 5 conferences to postpone their fall football seasons.
The United States recorded fewer than 50,000 new COVID-19 cases on Sunday and Monday but still has been the hardest-hit country, with more than 5 million diagnosed cases and at least 163,533 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University.
Hospitalization rates for people between 18 and 29 years old are 56 per 100,000, compared with 281 per 100,000 people between ages 65 and 74. People in their 20s are less likely to be hospitalized or die from the virus, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Eight of every 10 coronavirus-related deaths in the United States have been among adults 65 and older, according to the CDC.
But young people can get the disease. More than 97,000 children in the U.S. tested positive for the virus in the last two weeks of July, according to numbers from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children's Hospital Association. As of Aug. 6, there were more than 380,000 confirmed cases in children, according to the report. That's less than 8% of the cases nationwide.
Trump also talked about his desire to see the NFL season begin, but with a caveat that's not related to the global pandemic.
"Well, they want to open and they want to open badly, and they've been working with government. I would say this: If they don't stand for that national anthem, I hope they don't open," Trump said. "But other than that, I'd love to see them open and we're doing everything possible for getting them open. They can protest in other ways. They shouldn't protest our flag or our country."
Trump's opposition to players protesting during the playing of the national anthem led him to criticize the NBA, which restarted its season in a bubble setting.
"I think it's been horrible for basketball," Trump said. "Look at the basketball ratings. They're down to very low numbers. Very, very low numbers. People are angry about it. They don't realize that, they don't want, they have enough politics with guys like me. They don't need more as they're driving down, going up for the shot. They don't need it. And there was a nastiness about the NBA the way it was done too.
"So I think that the NBA is in trouble -- I think it's in big trouble, bigger trouble than they understand. And frankly, ice hockey, which is doing very well, they didn't do that, they respected the mores, they respected what they're supposed to be doing. And they're actually doing very well as I understand it."
According to the NBA, its games have helped ABC, ESPN and TNT win prime-time ratings each night among the key demographic of 18- to 49-year-old males. The NBA's game between the LA Clippers and Los Angeles Lakers was the most-viewed sports program since the league restarted on July 30, and eight of the 10 most-viewed prime-time sports programs have been NBA games during that time.
In addition to his domestic issues with the NBA, Trump also voiced his displeasure with the league's relationship with China.
"The way [the NBA] catered to China, the way they bowed to China, it's a disgrace, frankly," Trump said. "And they make a lot more money here than they do from China. But we have a system that allows you to disrespect your system. And that's too bad for them, too bad for them they don't appreciate what they have here."
Trump in the past has drawn strong criticism from NBA players, and he took a shot at them in his Tuesday remarks, calling some of his detractors "very nasty, very, very nasty and frankly very dumb."
One of the loudest voices against Trump from within the NBA has been that of LeBron James. Though Trump didn't mention James, he was asked whether he thought the Lakers star was better than Michael Jordan.
"Well, I've seen them both. Michael Jordan is [the better player]," Trump said. "Plus, he wasn't political, so people liked him better."
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Appearing Tuesday morning on Fox Sports Radio, Trump cited the youth and overall health of college players as factors that will help them avoid the most serious symptoms of the coronavirus.
"These football players are very young, strong people, and physically, I mean they're physically in extraordinary shape," Trump said in the interview. "So they're not going to have a problem, you're not going to see people, you know, could there be? Could it happen? But I doubt it.
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"So I think football is making a tragic mistake," Trump later added.
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Trump's comments came before the Big Ten and Pac-12 became the first Power 5 conferences to postpone their fall football seasons.
The United States recorded fewer than 50,000 new COVID-19 cases on Sunday and Monday but still has been the hardest-hit country, with more than 5 million diagnosed cases and at least 163,533 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University.
Hospitalization rates for people between 18 and 29 years old are 56 per 100,000, compared with 281 per 100,000 people between ages 65 and 74. People in their 20s are less likely to be hospitalized or die from the virus, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Eight of every 10 coronavirus-related deaths in the United States have been among adults 65 and older, according to the CDC.
But young people can get the disease. More than 97,000 children in the U.S. tested positive for the virus in the last two weeks of July, according to numbers from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children's Hospital Association. As of Aug. 6, there were more than 380,000 confirmed cases in children, according to the report. That's less than 8% of the cases nationwide.
Trump also talked about his desire to see the NFL season begin, but with a caveat that's not related to the global pandemic.
"Well, they want to open and they want to open badly, and they've been working with government. I would say this: If they don't stand for that national anthem, I hope they don't open," Trump said. "But other than that, I'd love to see them open and we're doing everything possible for getting them open. They can protest in other ways. They shouldn't protest our flag or our country."
Trump's opposition to players protesting during the playing of the national anthem led him to criticize the NBA, which restarted its season in a bubble setting.
"I think it's been horrible for basketball," Trump said. "Look at the basketball ratings. They're down to very low numbers. Very, very low numbers. People are angry about it. They don't realize that, they don't want, they have enough politics with guys like me. They don't need more as they're driving down, going up for the shot. They don't need it. And there was a nastiness about the NBA the way it was done too.
"So I think that the NBA is in trouble -- I think it's in big trouble, bigger trouble than they understand. And frankly, ice hockey, which is doing very well, they didn't do that, they respected the mores, they respected what they're supposed to be doing. And they're actually doing very well as I understand it."
According to the NBA, its games have helped ABC, ESPN and TNT win prime-time ratings each night among the key demographic of 18- to 49-year-old males. The NBA's game between the LA Clippers and Los Angeles Lakers was the most-viewed sports program since the league restarted on July 30, and eight of the 10 most-viewed prime-time sports programs have been NBA games during that time.
In addition to his domestic issues with the NBA, Trump also voiced his displeasure with the league's relationship with China.
"The way [the NBA] catered to China, the way they bowed to China, it's a disgrace, frankly," Trump said. "And they make a lot more money here than they do from China. But we have a system that allows you to disrespect your system. And that's too bad for them, too bad for them they don't appreciate what they have here."
Trump in the past has drawn strong criticism from NBA players, and he took a shot at them in his Tuesday remarks, calling some of his detractors "very nasty, very, very nasty and frankly very dumb."
One of the loudest voices against Trump from within the NBA has been that of LeBron James. Though Trump didn't mention James, he was asked whether he thought the Lakers star was better than Michael Jordan.
"Well, I've seen them both. Michael Jordan is [the better player]," Trump said. "Plus, he wasn't political, so people liked him better."
Trump: 'Tragic mistake' if no fall college football
President Donald Trump, saying it'd be a "tragic mistake" to cancel the college football season, cited the youth and overall health of players as factors that will help them avoid the most serious symptoms of the coronavirus.
Pac-12 postpones all sports through end of year
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In a statement, the Pac-12 said if conditions related to the coronavirus improve, it would consider a return to competition after Jan. 1, 2021.
"The health, safety and well-being of our student-athletes and all those connected to Pac-12 sports has been our number one priority since the start of this current crisis," Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said in a statement. "Our student-athletes, fans, staff and all those who love college sports would like to have seen the season played this calendar year as originally planned, and we know how disappointing this is."
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Impacted Pac-12 student athletes will continue to have their scholarships guaranteed. The conference is also encouraging the NCAA to grant students who opt out of playing this academic year an additional year of eligibility.
The league's medical advisory group had "concerns that many of its current recommendations cannot be achieved consistently across all universities at this point in time. Currently, the availability of frequent, FDA-approved, accurate testing with rapid turn-around time vary at each of the Pac-12 institution locations. In addition, in many locations within the Conference, community test positivity rates and number of cases per 100,000 in the surrounding community exceed levels which infectious disease and public health officials deem safe for group sports."
The medical advisory group also said, "it is anticipated that over the next few months, rapid point of care tests will become more available and we will have a greater understanding of potential short- and long-term health effects of COVID-19 to better inform medical decision-making."
Scott said in a news conference Tuesday that many factors went into the Pac-12's decision, including the fact that creating a "bubble," as some pro sports have done, was impossible for them.
"[Our student athletes] are part of broader campus communities," Scott said. "Student athletes are living with peer students on campus, interacting, and enough questions and concerns have been raised that we didn't feel comfortable moving forward."
Last month, in the wake of the same decision from the Big Ten, the Pac-12 announced it would proceed with a conference-only football schedule to begin Sept. 26. The Pac-12's decision to postpone the fall schedule Tuesday again follows the same decision from the Big Ten, which announced that it would postpone fall sports about an hour into the Pac-12's CEO group meeting.
"We knew there was a parallel track with the Big Ten also discussing this," said Oregon president Michael Schill, the chair of the CEO group. "We feel good about our decision. We would have made it independent of the Big Ten. We respect the institutions in the Big Ten, many of them have the same values that we have, and we're happy they're joining us."
The CEO group is made up of a chancellor or president from each of the conference's 12 universities and is the ultimate decision-maker for the Pac-12.
It's still unclear how the decisions by the Big Ten and Pac-12 will impact the College Football Playoff. Any decisions about the structure or format of the four-team playoff are made by the CFP board of managers, which is composed of 11 university presidents and chancellors -- including Penn State's Eric Barron and Washington State's Kirk Schulz.
"It's too soon to say what the implications will be," CFP executive director Bill Hancock told ESPN. "We will wait for guidance from the CFP board and management committee."
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In a statement, the Pac-12 said if conditions related to the coronavirus improve, it would consider a return to competition after Jan. 1, 2021.
"The health, safety and well-being of our student-athletes and all those connected to Pac-12 sports has been our number one priority since the start of this current crisis," Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said in a statement. "Our student-athletes, fans, staff and all those who love college sports would like to have seen the season played this calendar year as originally planned, and we know how disappointing this is."
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Impacted Pac-12 student athletes will continue to have their scholarships guaranteed. The conference is also encouraging the NCAA to grant students who opt out of playing this academic year an additional year of eligibility.
The league's medical advisory group had "concerns that many of its current recommendations cannot be achieved consistently across all universities at this point in time. Currently, the availability of frequent, FDA-approved, accurate testing with rapid turn-around time vary at each of the Pac-12 institution locations. In addition, in many locations within the Conference, community test positivity rates and number of cases per 100,000 in the surrounding community exceed levels which infectious disease and public health officials deem safe for group sports."
The medical advisory group also said, "it is anticipated that over the next few months, rapid point of care tests will become more available and we will have a greater understanding of potential short- and long-term health effects of COVID-19 to better inform medical decision-making."
Scott said in a news conference Tuesday that many factors went into the Pac-12's decision, including the fact that creating a "bubble," as some pro sports have done, was impossible for them.
"[Our student athletes] are part of broader campus communities," Scott said. "Student athletes are living with peer students on campus, interacting, and enough questions and concerns have been raised that we didn't feel comfortable moving forward."
Last month, in the wake of the same decision from the Big Ten, the Pac-12 announced it would proceed with a conference-only football schedule to begin Sept. 26. The Pac-12's decision to postpone the fall schedule Tuesday again follows the same decision from the Big Ten, which announced that it would postpone fall sports about an hour into the Pac-12's CEO group meeting.
"We knew there was a parallel track with the Big Ten also discussing this," said Oregon president Michael Schill, the chair of the CEO group. "We feel good about our decision. We would have made it independent of the Big Ten. We respect the institutions in the Big Ten, many of them have the same values that we have, and we're happy they're joining us."
The CEO group is made up of a chancellor or president from each of the conference's 12 universities and is the ultimate decision-maker for the Pac-12.
It's still unclear how the decisions by the Big Ten and Pac-12 will impact the College Football Playoff. Any decisions about the structure or format of the four-team playoff are made by the CFP board of managers, which is composed of 11 university presidents and chancellors -- including Penn State's Eric Barron and Washington State's Kirk Schulz.
"It's too soon to say what the implications will be," CFP executive director Bill Hancock told ESPN. "We will wait for guidance from the CFP board and management committee."
A spring season doesnt make any sense to me. How much football can these kids play in one year?
The Big 10 and Pac 12 should just cancel their seasons so they can get to the business of addressing what to do with the kids eligibility.
The Big 10 and Pac 12 should just cancel their seasons so they can get to the business of addressing what to do with the kids eligibility.
The Big Ten Commissioner shut that shit down.
That's the same thing Urban Meyer said.
You can't have them play in the spring and then turn around and play four months later.
Straight from the NCAA Rules for Collegiate Golfers:
If a basketball or football player were to do the same, they are INSTANTLY ruled ineligible.
Ask yourself why the rules are so much different.
Parents with high school kids looking at colleges need to be taking notes that every coach is quoting and throw it back at them when they are sitting in their home, trying to recruit. And go after coaches who truly value the student athlete. If these coaches are telling kids to shut up and play during a pandemic what you think they are saying to these kids when they break an ankle or sprain their knee. Get up, go and play. Which means go help me get a new contract extension.
"..provided that it does not exceed out-of-pocket expenses incurred...". So basically their prize is to get a partial or full reimbursement?
And that same Prize Money rule applies to all NCAA sports including basketball and football (see bylaw 12.1.2.4.1 below). The only exception is for HS tennis athletes, they can make up to $10k prior to full-time college enrollment. After enrollment, they have the same restrictions as the other sports.
https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/bylawView?id=11575
12.1.2.4.1 Exception for Prize Money Based on Performance -- Sports Other Than Tennis. In
sports other than tennis, an individual may accept prize money based on his or her place
finish or performance in an athletics event. Such prize money may not exceed actual and
necessary expenses and may be provided only by the sponsor of the event. The calculation
of actual and necessary expenses shall not include the expenses or fees of anyone other
than the individual (e.g., coach's fees or expenses, family member's expenses). (Adopted:
4/25/02 effective 8/1/02, Revised: 12/12/06 applicable to any expenses received by a
prospective student-athlete on or after 8/23/06, 4/26/12, 1/19/13 effective 8/1/13, 4/25/18)
sports other than tennis, an individual may accept prize money based on his or her place
finish or performance in an athletics event. Such prize money may not exceed actual and
necessary expenses and may be provided only by the sponsor of the event. The calculation
of actual and necessary expenses shall not include the expenses or fees of anyone other
than the individual (e.g., coach's fees or expenses, family member's expenses). (Adopted:
4/25/02 effective 8/1/02, Revised: 12/12/06 applicable to any expenses received by a
prospective student-athlete on or after 8/23/06, 4/26/12, 1/19/13 effective 8/1/13, 4/25/18)
12.1.2.4.2.1 Prior to Full-Time Collegiate Enrollment. In tennis, prior to full-time collegiate enrollment, an individual may accept up to $10,000 per calendar year in prize money based on his or her place finish or performance in athletics events. Such prize money may be provided only by the sponsor of an event in which the individual participates. Once the individual has accepted $10,000 in prize money in a particular year, he or she may receive additional prize money on a per-event basis, provided such prize money does not exceed the individual's actual and necessary expenses for participation in the event. The calculation of actual and necessary expenses shall not include the expenses or fees of anyone other than the individual (e.g., coach's fees or expenses, family member's expenses). (Adopted: 4/26/12, Revised: 1/19/13 effective 8/1/13)
12.1.2.4.2.2 After Initial Full-Time Collegiate Enrollment. In tennis, after initial full-time collegiate enrollment, an individual may accept prize money based on his or her place finish or performance in an athletics event. Such prize money may not exceed actual and necessary expenses and may be provided only by the sponsor of the event. The calculation of actual and necessary expenses shall not include the expenses or fees of anyone other than the individual (e.g., coach's fees or expenses, family member's expenses). (Adopted: 1/19/13 effective 8/1/13, Revised: 4/25/18)
12.1.2.4.2.2 After Initial Full-Time Collegiate Enrollment. In tennis, after initial full-time collegiate enrollment, an individual may accept prize money based on his or her place finish or performance in an athletics event. Such prize money may not exceed actual and necessary expenses and may be provided only by the sponsor of the event. The calculation of actual and necessary expenses shall not include the expenses or fees of anyone other than the individual (e.g., coach's fees or expenses, family member's expenses). (Adopted: 1/19/13 effective 8/1/13, Revised: 4/25/18)
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Yeah, I'm a Nebraska fan born and raised but they're straight acting an ass right now.
Nebraska hasn't exactly been tearing it up in the Big 10 either since they joined about a decade ago.
They better tread lightly before they find themselves without a conference and lighter in the bank account.
None of this shit makes any sense.
Ohio State coach Ryan Day says he wants to start in January.
Never mind the fact that it would still put kids health at risk because it would be 2 seasons in one calendar year.
Whats supposed to happen between now and January that would make it safe for a season then?
Kids still in school on campus, still cant create a bubble, cant predict a vaccine will exist by then, the safety measures will be the same...
This is the part I dont get right now. What new safety measures will be put in place thats a game changer?
Im thinking the Big Ten and the Pac 12 just didnt want to risk it, they wanna let other conferences take all the risk and see how it plays out.
Ohio State coach Ryan Day says he wants to start in January.
Never mind the fact that it would still put kids health at risk because it would be 2 seasons in one calendar year.
Whats supposed to happen between now and January that would make it safe for a season then?
Kids still in school on campus, still cant create a bubble, cant predict a vaccine will exist by then, the safety measures will be the same...
This is the part I dont get right now. What new safety measures will be put in place thats a game changer?
Im thinking the Big Ten and the Pac 12 just didnt want to risk it, they wanna let other conferences take all the risk and see how it plays out.
Dabo ain't shit. Christianity covering for getting rich off free labor. Shows how poor white people don't give a fuck about other poor white people. Shared economic stories sure ass hell doesn't make you an ally.
Post Corona lawsuits will have Insurance companies needing another bailout.
I've so out of the loop for college football I didnt know Nebraska was in the Big 10.....It's been a long time that Ive sat down and saw a whole college game...