Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a muslim
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Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
They dont need to justify themselves no more then an atheist or agnostic person needs to justify themselves.
Ghandi~"True religion is not a narrow dogma. It is not external observance. It is faith in God and living in the presence of God. It means faith in a future life, in truth and Ahimsa…. Religion is a matter of the heart. No physical inconvenience can warrant abandonment of one's own religion."
Ghandi~"I came to the conclusion long ago … that all religions were true and also that all had some error in them, and whilst I hold by my own, I should hold others as dear as Hinduism. So we can only pray, if we are Hindus, not that a Christian should become a Hindu … But our innermost prayer should be a Hindu should be a better Hindu, a Muslim a better Muslim, a Christian a better Christian." (Young India: January 19, 1928)
They dont need to justify themselves no more then an atheist or agnostic person needs to justify themselves.
Ghandi~"True religion is not a narrow dogma. It is not external observance. It is faith in God and living in the presence of God. It means faith in a future life, in truth and Ahimsa…. Religion is a matter of the heart. No physical inconvenience can warrant abandonment of one's own religion."
Ghandi~"I came to the conclusion long ago … that all religions were true and also that all had some error in them, and whilst I hold by my own, I should hold others as dear as Hinduism. So we can only pray, if we are Hindus, not that a Christian should become a Hindu … But our innermost prayer should be a Hindu should be a better Hindu, a Muslim a better Muslim, a Christian a better Christian." (Young India: January 19, 1928)
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Why feed this OP/troll?
some of his/her stupid shit from another thread:
Why feed this OP/troll?
some of his/her stupid shit from another thread:
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
aah, but thats bullshit. Anytime you narrow it down to a particular book, name for God, sex for him, story of his or her birth, area that he loves the most, and opinions on how to make him interced on your behalf, you are the EPITOME of NARROW.
On one hand, a believer in a particular religions likes to say, "oh I love all, and my religion says to", all while cosigning some book that says the opposite.
aah, but thats bullshit. Anytime you narrow it down to a particular book, name for God, sex for him, story of his or her birth, area that he loves the most, and opinions on how to make him interced on your behalf, you are the EPITOME of NARROW.
On one hand, a believer in a particular religions likes to say, "oh I love all, and my religion says to", all while cosigning some book that says the opposite.
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Because they have seen or heard nothing that convinces them if it's existence..!!!
Because they have seen or heard nothing that convinces them if it's existence..!!!
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
hell no, cuz to be relious is to practice doublethink...
hell no, cuz to be relious is to practice doublethink...
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Atheism stays confronted with it's abysmal failure to make a dent in the phenomenon of religion itself.
Atheism stays confronted with it's abysmal failure to make a dent in the phenomenon of religion itself.
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
He did marry a 9 year old Girl, back in around 613 AD. Do you know anything about the average age for a female to marry back in those Days?
You are applying todays Moral Standards (2011 AD) to a Situation from 613 AD?
Good luck with that!
In 1275 in the country of England, the jurist Sir Edward Coke (who came much later) stated that the age of marriage was at least 12 years of age. If we think about this what was the age prior to 1275 in England itself? Lower? Higher? Go figure......
From the Encyclopedia of Children and Childhood in History an Society it states:
“The American colonies followed the English tradition, and the law was more of a guide. For example, Mary Hathaway (Virginia, 1689) was only nine when she was married to William Williams. Sir Edward Coke (England, 17th century) made it clear that "the marriage of girls under twelve was normal, and the age at which a girl who was a wife was eligible for a dower from her husband's estate was nine even though her husband be only four years old."
Also what do you think was the Age of Marriage among African Females around that Time??.....
Didn't Muhammad marry a 9 year old girl?... and don't the hadith expose Muhammad as some type of sexual deviant?
Muhammad also enslaved people and had sex with the captive females, correct?
He did marry a 9 year old Girl, back in around 613 AD. Do you know anything about the average age for a female to marry back in those Days?
You are applying todays Moral Standards (2011 AD) to a Situation from 613 AD?
Good luck with that!
In 1275 in the country of England, the jurist Sir Edward Coke (who came much later) stated that the age of marriage was at least 12 years of age. If we think about this what was the age prior to 1275 in England itself? Lower? Higher? Go figure......
From the Encyclopedia of Children and Childhood in History an Society it states:
“The American colonies followed the English tradition, and the law was more of a guide. For example, Mary Hathaway (Virginia, 1689) was only nine when she was married to William Williams. Sir Edward Coke (England, 17th century) made it clear that "the marriage of girls under twelve was normal, and the age at which a girl who was a wife was eligible for a dower from her husband's estate was nine even though her husband be only four years old."
Also what do you think was the Age of Marriage among African Females around that Time??.....
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Atheism is not an evangelical movement, so how can it be considered as failing?
Surely the failure is that of the evangelists, that fail convince atheists of the existence of their gods?
Atheism is not an evangelical movement, so how can it be considered as failing?
Surely the failure is that of the evangelists, that fail convince atheists of the existence of their gods?
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
So do god's morals change over time?
So do god's morals change over time?
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Why do yall care? We're on a rock that's traveling 67,000 mph around a Sun in one galaxy amongst billions and have no idea how we got here.
People will believe what they believe.
Why do yall care? We're on a rock that's traveling 67,000 mph around a Sun in one galaxy amongst billions and have no idea how we got here.
People will believe what they believe.
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Dr. John Henrik Clarke dropping that fire. It's amazing to many cats don't know history with all this info available throughout the internet
Good post
Dr. John Henrik Clarke dropping that fire. It's amazing to many cats don't know history with all this info available throughout the internet
Good post
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
You can't ask them to justify shit without asking christians to justify their crimes in slavery as well... like creating the dialogue for the enslavement of over 100 million africans which lost their ancestry and had their genepools polluted through rape for centuries along with other wonderful crimes against other religions... like the inquisition, like the crusade, like those 92 people in norway, like the christian fundamentalist terrorist here which commit their rhetoric for xenophobic aspirations.
You can't ask them to justify shit without asking christians to justify their crimes in slavery as well... like creating the dialogue for the enslavement of over 100 million africans which lost their ancestry and had their genepools polluted through rape for centuries along with other wonderful crimes against other religions... like the inquisition, like the crusade, like those 92 people in norway, like the christian fundamentalist terrorist here which commit their rhetoric for xenophobic aspirations.
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
all major religions blacks/minorities in my opinion are condidered second class not part of the plan. all major religions if you are black wanting to marry another race someone from same religious group, you get problems. of course you have exception to the rule.
also major religions dismiss indigenous religious beliefs as EVIL.
of course exception to the rule but still.......
all major religions blacks/minorities in my opinion are condidered second class not part of the plan. all major religions if you are black wanting to marry another race someone from same religious group, you get problems. of course you have exception to the rule.
also major religions dismiss indigenous religious beliefs as EVIL.
of course exception to the rule but still.......
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Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
True but you have to admit muslims took it on a whole other level, mandating that all black african slaves be castrated before auction. Think about that, millions of your africa forefathers had their manhood taken away from them, because to quote an medieval arab-muslim proverb "Ethiopians have insatiable sexual appetites" and that blacks were mentally inferior.
True but you have to admit muslims took it on a whole other level, mandating that all black african slaves be castrated before auction. Think about that, millions of your africa forefathers had their manhood taken away from them, because to quote an medieval arab-muslim proverb "Ethiopians have insatiable sexual appetites" and that blacks were mentally inferior.
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
100% co-sign
Dr. John Henrik Clarke dropping that fire. It's amazing to many cats don't know history with all this info available throughout the internet
100% co-sign
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Not quite! Religion always persisted despite millennia of attempts by the "secular-rational" community to get rid of it. It is a fact Atheists gotta face and analyze, rather than run away from or ignore.
Atheists attitude towards Religion is mainly based on two underlying assumptions:
1.that whatever comes from religion must be bad, by definition
2. that atheists don’t need to do much more than point out how silly the other side is, and you are done.
Assumptions that are highly unlikely......Atheisms Problem is that Atheism will never be an adequate substitute for religion.... Hence why Religion of some sort has always been around and always will be...as long as we Humans are around.
Religion fills a fundamental human psychological niche that incorporates meaning, emotions, ethics etc. in a way that Atheism never can.
Not quite! Religion always persisted despite millennia of attempts by the "secular-rational" community to get rid of it. It is a fact Atheists gotta face and analyze, rather than run away from or ignore.
Atheists attitude towards Religion is mainly based on two underlying assumptions:
1.that whatever comes from religion must be bad, by definition
2. that atheists don’t need to do much more than point out how silly the other side is, and you are done.
Assumptions that are highly unlikely......Atheisms Problem is that Atheism will never be an adequate substitute for religion.... Hence why Religion of some sort has always been around and always will be...as long as we Humans are around.
Religion fills a fundamental human psychological niche that incorporates meaning, emotions, ethics etc. in a way that Atheism never can.
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
1. Atheism is a relatively new term, considering that the knowledge that man has of the universe and it's laws is relatively new. It aint like there have always been atheists sittin around mad at religion for thousands of years.
2. Same with religion really. The way I see it, religions just bad science really, and men have always wanted to find causes of things, to repeat good things or avoid bad things. Before these things got organized into relgions, they were just superstitions and myths.
3. The biggest arguments for atheism sprung out of the biggest arguments AMONG the religious.
give it time. There will be no need for the term if mankind can survive long enough.
1. Atheism is a relatively new term, considering that the knowledge that man has of the universe and it's laws is relatively new. It aint like there have always been atheists sittin around mad at religion for thousands of years.
2. Same with religion really. The way I see it, religions just bad science really, and men have always wanted to find causes of things, to repeat good things or avoid bad things. Before these things got organized into relgions, they were just superstitions and myths.
3. The biggest arguments for atheism sprung out of the biggest arguments AMONG the religious.
give it time. There will be no need for the term if mankind can survive long enough.
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
You're gonna have to shed light on my ignorance then my friend, because I'm not aware of any atheists movements to rid society of religion..I'm aware of movements to rid a particular version of religion from a given society but not religion as a whole.
Religion has a proclamation, atheists argue against it's validity.
There is no atheist doctrine telling people how to behave and act or even what to believe.
I apreciate the role that religion plays in society and the affinity the human pysche has for it.
That doesn't mean it's proclamaition are true...
The human pysche also has an affinity for mind altering substances and violence that doesn't necessarily give vality to such substances or behaviour.
You're gonna have to shed light on my ignorance then my friend, because I'm not aware of any atheists movements to rid society of religion..I'm aware of movements to rid a particular version of religion from a given society but not religion as a whole.
Religion has a proclamation, atheists argue against it's validity.
There is no atheist doctrine telling people how to behave and act or even what to believe.
I apreciate the role that religion plays in society and the affinity the human pysche has for it.
That doesn't mean it's proclamaition are true...
The human pysche also has an affinity for mind altering substances and violence that doesn't necessarily give vality to such substances or behaviour.
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Now THIS is the true word.
Now THIS is the true word.
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
nobody learns shit in these threads...they're a waste of time...people are too close-minded to hear the other side out..those that act like they learned something will reboot and be back to their same beliefs a week from now so all this debating is just stupid..and OP say hello to my ignore list
respect each other beliefs
/end thread
nobody learns shit in these threads...they're a waste of time...people are too close-minded to hear the other side out..those that act like they learned something will reboot and be back to their same beliefs a week from now so all this debating is just stupid..and OP say hello to my ignore list
respect each other beliefs
/end thread
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
apparently you don't learn either
apparently you don't learn either
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Our very existace is proof of a god....if you are looking waiting for white international scientists to make unanimous decision and prove it....the ones who's research is almost specifically limited to earth......t's not gonna happen. Their is tons of evidence of the supernatural.
Edgar cayce the sleeping prophet....had you not seen it or heard abut it then u wouldn't believe it. the mere fact that ancient ancestors all believed in a afterlife or god(s). Ya know the same ones with knowledge of things that we don't know about.
Our very existace is proof of a god....if you are looking waiting for white international scientists to make unanimous decision and prove it....the ones who's research is almost specifically limited to earth......t's not gonna happen. Their is tons of evidence of the supernatural.
Edgar cayce the sleeping prophet....had you not seen it or heard abut it then u wouldn't believe it. the mere fact that ancient ancestors all believed in a afterlife or god(s). Ya know the same ones with knowledge of things that we don't know about.
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
i respect everybody's beliefs...this arguing back and forth you like to do never goes anywhere
apparently you don't learn either
i respect everybody's beliefs...this arguing back and forth you like to do never goes anywhere
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Lol what exactly about that quote is bullshit?
Lol what exactly about that quote is bullshit?
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
No it's not. It's just proof of our existence and proof that humans have always believed in gods, not that god exists!!
Personally I'm not waiting for anything..
No it's not. It's just proof of our existence and proof that humans have always believed in gods, not that god exists!!
Personally I'm not waiting for anything..
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question
when you guys close your eyes you guys think the darkness (Void/Chidakasha) behind your eyelids is just there for no reason? that it's just there and your not supposed to make use of that?
question
when you guys close your eyes you guys think the darkness (Void/Chidakasha) behind your eyelids is just there for no reason? that it's just there and your not supposed to make use of that?
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
religion is just a means to control you!!
The govn't figured, we should go at the people two ways. one, we'll make laws that if you break you go to jail!! two, well make religions, that says if you break our laws, you'll go to hell
im abt to drop the secret of life on u nuccahs... THERE IS NO HEAVEN, THERE IS NO HELL... BUT THERE IS EARTH... IT CAN BE BOTH HEAVEN OR HELL... THE SECRET TO LIFE TO TURN THIS HELL WHOLE OF A PLANET INTO AN EDEN...
but for as long as we have, politicians, governements, and religion, we will forever dwell in this hell
"abre los ojos, mi amigos"
religion is just a means to control you!!
The govn't figured, we should go at the people two ways. one, we'll make laws that if you break you go to jail!! two, well make religions, that says if you break our laws, you'll go to hell
im abt to drop the secret of life on u nuccahs... THERE IS NO HEAVEN, THERE IS NO HELL... BUT THERE IS EARTH... IT CAN BE BOTH HEAVEN OR HELL... THE SECRET TO LIFE TO TURN THIS HELL WHOLE OF A PLANET INTO AN EDEN...
but for as long as we have, politicians, governements, and religion, we will forever dwell in this hell
"abre los ojos, mi amigos"
Re: Black muslims i sitll havent gotten a responce, please justify why you're a musli
Why are you what you are CAC?
Why can't you spell correctly?
Why are you what you are CAC?
Why can't you spell correctly?
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