BGOL BLACK PANTHER Movie Thread [Black Panther: Wakanda Forever drops on Disney+ 2/1/23]

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See, I'm glad I did what the fuck I did. I bought a ticket for Wakanda forever and saw violent night instead.

While I'm in line, one of the guys at the desk was telling the manager how good a movie what kind of forever was, this guy was white and so with the manager. The manager said smugly, "it's not on my to-do list"

Racist ass crackers

Violent night was okay, but I'm glad I didn't pay for it
 

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See, I'm glad I did what the fuck I did. I bought a ticket for Wakanda forever and saw violent night instead.

While I'm in line, one of the guys at the desk was telling the manager how good a movie what kind of forever was, this guy was white and so with the manager. The manager said smugly, "it's not on my to-do list"

Racist ass crackers

Violent night was okay, but I'm glad I didn't pay for it
So you didn’t see WKF?
 

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Bro, I've seen Wakanda Forever 5 times, including once in 3D. But for the next month anytime I go see a white movie I'm paying for a ticket for Black Panther.

For the Culture

I'll probably pay for a ticket for the Whitney Houston movie but besides that it's all Wakanda Forever
Good shit
 

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@raze

Damn I don't like him but he be on point.​


Just watched the vid and he's right...800 million is no flop and I think Coogler deservers an award just for being able to put something together so good. Like he focused on Angela Bassett and put her out front and minimize the time shuri was in the suit because quite frankly she couldn't really hang with Namor.
 

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Damn I don't like him but he be point.​


Yeah, saw that. Wakanda Forever was never going to match the hype and box office of the first. BP is sixth all-time domestic at $700M. Crazy numbers for any film, especially one with a predominantly Black cast. Still, I'm a little disappointed it couldn't even crack $900M, especially after the strong opening. It pulled in better domestic totals than Doctor Strange 2 and Thor: Love and Thunder but fell short in foreign markets.
 
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Yeah, saw that. Wakanda Forever was never going to match the hype and box office of the first. BP is sixth all-time domestic at $700M. Crazy numbers for any film, especially one with a predominantly Black cast. Still, I'm a little disappointed it couldn't even crack $900M, especially after the strong opening. It pulled in better domestic totals than Doctor Strange 2 and Thor: Love and Thunder but fell short in foreign markets.

^^^

a white led film who lost their lead would NEVER ever been put under that type of pressure / expectation.
 

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Yeah, saw that. Wakanda Forever was never going to match the hype and box office of the first. BP is sixth all-time domestic at $700M. Crazy numbers for any film, especially one with a predominantly Black cast. Still, I'm a little disappointed it couldn't even crack $900M, especially after the strong opening. It pulled in better domestic totals than Doctor Strange 2 and Thor: Love and Thunder but fell short in foreign markets.

^^
that part STILL confuses me.
 
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Yeah, saw that. Wakanda Forever was never going to match the hype and box office of the first. BP is sixth all-time domestic at $700M. Crazy numbers for any film, especially one with a predominantly Black cast. Still, I'm a little disappointed it couldn't even crack $900M, especially after the strong opening. It pulled in better domestic totals than Doctor Strange 2 and Thor: Love and Thunder but fell short in foreign markets.

This was and still not mentioned ENOUGH

THAT ALONE makes this a HUGE sucess to me

and also

how that boycott work out?

Imagine if THAT bullsh*t was NEVER a thing (it never really was but still)
 
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playahaitian

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Just watched the vid and he's right...800 million is no flop and I think Coogler deservers an award just for being able to put something together so good. Like he focused on Angela Bassett and put her out front and minimize the time shuri was in the suit because quite frankly she couldn't really hang with Namor.

ANY OTHER director who was WHITE and HIS AGE???

Would be be given a damn honorary Oscar

or at least given NUMEROUS magazine covers celebrating his triumph.

Cause we seen white directors with lesser filmographies lesser accomplishments older and younger directors do MUCH less under much more favorable conditions and much LESS pressure

get treated like LEGENDS already.
 

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^^
that part STILL confuses me.

1) There's still an aversion to seeing Black people on the big screen in some parts of the world. Not as bad as it used to be, but it still exists.

2) A predominantly female cast. It's always an uphill battle for female led films. (e.g., The Woman King)

3) A predominantly female cast of brown and darkskin Black women. Colorism is still a thing. Casting has made it worse over the last couple of years. If Black actresses don't have a certain look, audiences aren't as interested/invested.

4) There's this perception that Black talent (in front and behind the camera) is automatically inferior. Doesn't matter if they have access to the same resources as everybody else, the final product is always lacking. The story is bad/boring, actors are terrible, the action is poor, etc.

This was and still not mentioned ENOUGH

THAT ALONE maks this a HUGE sucess to me

and also

how that boycott work out?

Imagine if THAT bullsh*t was NEVER a thing (it never really was but still)

If I remember correctly, the Black audience for Wakanda Forever's opening weekend was higher for than Black Panther. I believe the white audience was smaller.
 

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1) There's still an aversion to seeing Black people on the big screen in some parts of the world. Not as bad as it used to be, but it still exists.

2) A predominantly female cast. It's always an uphill battle for female led films. (e.g., The Woman King)

3) A predominantly female cast of brown and darkskin Black women. Colorism is still a thing. Casting has made it worse over the last couple of years. If Black actresses don't have a certain look, audiences aren't as interested/invested.

4) There's this perception that Black talent (in front and behind the camera) is automatically inferior. Doesn't matter if they have access to the same resources as everybody else, the final product is always lacking. The story is bad/boring, actors are terrible, the action is poor, etc.



If I remember correctly, the Black audience for Wakanda Forever's opening weekend was higher for than Black Panther. I believe the white audience was smaller.

Post of the new year nominee

 

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Just watched the vid and he's right...800 million is no flop and I think Coogler deservers an award just for being able to put something together so good. Like he focused on Angela Bassett and put her out front and minimize the time shuri was in the suit because quite frankly she couldn't really hang with Namor.
It's not a flop, but 250 million plus 150 million for marketing is 400 million. Now, there is rumor that they pulled SOME strange world money to throw into Wakanda marketing. But even at $400 million total it needs close to 750-800 to break even. Most objective sources are reporting the same numbers.

Disney ain't trying to spend all that money to make 50 million. Best believe they are disappointed. It's no wonder after Wakanda came out and didn't do numbers that the Disney phase 4 leak hit. Best believe they are questioning whether or not a 3rd is worth it.

Hindsight is 20/20, but recasting Black Panther might have been the right move. Who knows. Marvel has done so much damage to its brand of late Wakanda Forver just got caught up in the mix. Hopefully they can straighten things out because BP was a force of nature.

D.C. would kill to 'only' make $50 million instead of losing hundreds of millions. :lol: 18 points, 3 assists, and 3 rebounds for Lebron is a bad game even at 38. For other players, it's a stat line they can only dream of even at 21. So flop is relative the way SOME are throwing it around. Marvel been like Lebron from 2008-2019. They still want those Lebron numbers but only Spiderman did that and it wasn't all them.
 

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1) There's still an aversion to seeing Black people on the big screen in some parts of the world. Not as bad as it used to be, but it still exists.

2) A predominantly female cast. It's always an uphill battle for female led films. (e.g., The Woman King)

3) A predominantly female cast of brown and darkskin Black women. Colorism is still a thing. Casting has made it worse over the last couple of years. If Black actresses don't have a certain look, audiences aren't as interested/invested.

4) There's this perception that Black talent (in front and behind the camera) is automatically inferior. Doesn't matter if they have access to the same resources as everybody else, the final product is always lacking. The story is bad/boring, actors are terrible, the action is poor, etc.




If I remember correctly, the Black audience for Wakanda Forever's opening weekend was higher for than Black Panther. I believe the white audience was smaller.

3) I'm not sure who posted it (perhaps @playahaitian) but a few pages back someone posted an article about colorism in the mexican film industry and about why a "white hispanic" wasn't cast to play Namor :smh: Like apparently this is a real thing down in Mexico.

4) We're going to how this goes when Creed 3 comes out because this will essentially be a "black" movie.
 
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