AMC/Regal/Cineworld Theaters may go bankrupt (CINEWORLD GOES DOWN!)

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The pandemic is changing Hollywood, maybe forever

“No New ‘Movies’ Till Influenza Ends” blared a New York Times headline on Oct. 10, 1918, while the deadly second wave of the Spanish Flu was unfolding.

A century later, during another pandemic, movies — quotes no longer necessary — are again facing a critical juncture. But it’s not because new films haven’t been coming out. By streaming service, video-on-demand, virtual theater or actual theater, a steady diet of films have been released under COVID-19 every week. The Times has reviewed more than 460 new movies since mid-March.


Yet until recently — with only a few exceptions — those haven’t been the big-budget spectacles Hollywood runs on. Eight months into the pandemic, that’s changing. Last month, the Walt Disney Co. experimented with the $200 million “Mulan” as a premium buy on its fast-growing streaming service, Disney+ — where the Pixar film “Soul” will also go on Dec. 25. WarnerMedia last week announced that “Wonder Woman 1984” — a movie that might have made $1 billion at the box office in a normal summer — will land in theaters and on HBO Max simultaneously next month.

Much remains uncertain about how the movie business will survive the pandemic. But it’s increasingly clear that Hollywood won’t be the same afterward. Just as the Spanish Flu, which weeded out smaller companies and contributed to the formation of the studio system, COVID-19 is remaking Hollywood, accelerating a digital makeover and potentially reordering an industry that was already in flux.

“I don’t think the genie will ever be back in the bottle,” says veteran producer Peter Guber, president of Mandalay Entertainment and former chief of Sony Pictures. “It will be a new studio system. Instead of MGM and Fox, they’re going to be Disney and Disney+, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, HBO Max and Peacock.”

 

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The pandemic is changing Hollywood, maybe forever

“No New ‘Movies’ Till Influenza Ends” blared a New York Times headline on Oct. 10, 1918, while the deadly second wave of the Spanish Flu was unfolding.

A century later, during another pandemic, movies — quotes no longer necessary — are again facing a critical juncture. But it’s not because new films haven’t been coming out. By streaming service, video-on-demand, virtual theater or actual theater, a steady diet of films have been released under COVID-19 every week. The Times has reviewed more than 460 new movies since mid-March.


Yet until recently — with only a few exceptions — those haven’t been the big-budget spectacles Hollywood runs on. Eight months into the pandemic, that’s changing. Last month, the Walt Disney Co. experimented with the $200 million “Mulan” as a premium buy on its fast-growing streaming service, Disney+ — where the Pixar film “Soul” will also go on Dec. 25. WarnerMedia last week announced that “Wonder Woman 1984” — a movie that might have made $1 billion at the box office in a normal summer — will land in theaters and on HBO Max simultaneously next month.

Much remains uncertain about how the movie business will survive the pandemic. But it’s increasingly clear that Hollywood won’t be the same afterward. Just as the Spanish Flu, which weeded out smaller companies and contributed to the formation of the studio system, COVID-19 is remaking Hollywood, accelerating a digital makeover and potentially reordering an industry that was already in flux.

“I don’t think the genie will ever be back in the bottle,” says veteran producer Peter Guber, president of Mandalay Entertainment and former chief of Sony Pictures. “It will be a new studio system. Instead of MGM and Fox, they’re going to be Disney and Disney+, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, HBO Max and Peacock.”

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Some will still deny this like 45 denying he lost the election
 

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Some will still deny this like 45 denying he lost the election
Yep! I said this numerous times months ago.

I disagree, it just means that they will have to figure out how to do it cheaper, which they can. Actors salaries take up nearly 50% of the entire budget. It is estimated that with Avengers, it was more.

So, if they could reduce the time to film, start using newer lesser known actors, (or convince A-List actors to take less, which is less likely, but possible) you are looking at a significant reduction in cost. CGI is cheaper than being on location, so expect more of that. But, before you complain, expect to see exponential improvement in CGI since the demand will be higher.
 

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Smh. How much is it costing you to stream 5 different services plus paying for internet?
How much MOVIES do you even really watch at home?
Ww2 will be on a free streaming site within hours of its release on hbo max... Xmas gift from dc or just them making up to the fans for bvs.. save Martha might slightly be forgiven
 

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'Godzilla vs. Kong' Likely the Latest Tentpole to Go to a Streamer (Exclusive)
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HBOMAX ain't playing around and WarnerMedia is just saying fuck it.
It's the smart play. HBOMax is full of stuff to watch and is on pace to be a real direct competitor to Netflix. Although people love Marvel, you can only watch Avengers so many times.

If they can convert current HBO users to just the streaming platform they win. Warner is playing the long game. In our house, my family has no cable Tuesdays and Thursdays. We can only stream from phones and tablets. This is how I am slowly getting them to cut the cord.
 

bham_brotha

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Smh. How much is it costing you to stream 5 different services plus paying for internet?
How much MOVIES do you even really watch at home?

Uh... my guy do you have a lady? A family? One ticket is $20. Plus gas, parking and snacks and all the other bullshit that goes with it. I could watch 5 movies at home for the price of going to one. That seems pretty easy to figure lol. And I don't need 5 different services either. You confused yourself or something it seems.
 

veritech

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welp, the damn has broken...

where is that one dude at? he has got to be crying in the car.

Dune, The Matrix 4, Mortal Kombat Coming to HBO Max Along with Entire WB 2021 Slate

Warner Bros. announced an industry-shaking approach to distributing its films in 2021, revealing that it will be making all 17 of its theatrically-released movies that year available concurrently for a one-month exclusive window on HBO Max.


That means United States-based consumers will be able to watch highly anticipated releases including Dune, The Matrix 4, The Suicide Squad, Mortal Kombat, and more at the same time on HBO Max as they would be able to see them released in theaters. More importantly, watching the movies will require no extra cost to HBO Max subscribers.

 

mrcmd187

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welp, the damn has broken...

where is that one dude at? he has got to be crying in the car.

Dune, The Matrix 4, Mortal Kombat Coming to HBO Max Along with Entire WB 2021 Slate

Warner Bros. announced an industry-shaking approach to distributing its films in 2021, revealing that it will be making all 17 of its theatrically-released movies that year available concurrently for a one-month exclusive window on HBO Max.


That means United States-based consumers will be able to watch highly anticipated releases including Dune, The Matrix 4, The Suicide Squad, Mortal Kombat, and more at the same time on HBO Max as they would be able to see them released in theaters. More importantly, watching the movies will require no extra cost to HBO Max subscribers.


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:popcorn: waiting on the ranting to start.
 

DiGeneral

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I can’t even scroll bgol around my wife

nigga ina thread bout sharin yard maintenance and here come the bitches lol

she seen it once and I had to tell her the nigga jus be postin random hoes and shit

and yes she still don’t believe me

Bro, I thought that is was just me. Got me looking over my shoulder, like I'm 16 years old sneaking watching scrambled porn.
 

D24OHA

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welp, the damn has broken...

where is that one dude at? he has got to be crying in the car.

Dune, The Matrix 4, Mortal Kombat Coming to HBO Max Along with Entire WB 2021 Slate

Warner Bros. announced an industry-shaking approach to distributing its films in 2021, revealing that it will be making all 17 of its theatrically-released movies that year available concurrently for a one-month exclusive window on HBO Max.


That means United States-based consumers will be able to watch highly anticipated releases including Dune, The Matrix 4, The Suicide Squad, Mortal Kombat, and more at the same time on HBO Max as they would be able to see them released in theaters. More importantly, watching the movies will require no extra cost to HBO Max subscribers.


Was just coming to post this.....

This is Huuuuge.....HBO Max aka Warner is saying "Theaters we're still here for you." While the "other side of their mouth" is like "fuck dem theaters"......

If during this pandemic I had the option to sit at home at my leisure, pop my own popcorn, drink whatever I want and relax in front of my xxx inch tv....or pay $16 for myself or x people X $16, wait in line for concessions, $$$ for that and sit boxed in with however many other people and possibly catch the rona......yeah...real easy choice
 

mrcmd187

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Was just coming to post this.....

This is Huuuuge.....HBO Max aka Warner is saying "Theaters we're still here for you." While the "other side of their mouth" is like "fuck dem theaters"......

If during this pandemic I had the option to sit at home at my leisure, pop my own popcorn, drink whatever I want and relax in front of my xxx inch tv....or pay $16 for myself or x people X $16, wait in line for concessions, $$$ for that and sit boxed in with however many other people and possibly catch the rona......yeah...real easy choice
Some on here will plead their case for people will still go to theaters but AMC and Cinemark just keep getting fucked by Universal studios and WB new restrictions and Bankruptcy :itsawrap:
 

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Ok, lets put this in perspective. The movie companies have already, financed and shot the movies. Covid has thrown the whole world upside down. From a business perspective, you got a product that the normal route of distribution is currently non-existent and you need to recoup the cost of production so what should you do? Oh yeah your customers have already moved on and the market you used to count on, may not return. With that said, selling the movies to places like HBO, Netflix may offset or allow you to break even on a product you have to sell that no longer have a market for it. Even though the movies have never been released, there is the staleness factor that must be consider. Historically speaking, movies shot years ago, don't do as well when released years later vs being released within a year after production wrapped. Waiting for 2+ years or __ years may not make a lot of sense, when you still got the cost of production on your books that must be dealt with. For all the talk of movies going out of business and never returning, do not believe it. Since the advent of home theater, cheaper and bigger TV's, etc, etc.. the movie theaters still existed and thrive. True they may not make as much money but they still had a market and manage to continue to make a profit in the pre-covid world. I believe they will return post covid because Movie theaters have a social component to it, that cannot be replicated via the home theater experience, no how awesome the setup.
 

mrcmd187

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Ok, lets put this in perspective. The movie companies have already, financed and shot the movies. Covid has thrown the whole world upside down. From a business perspective, you got a product that the normal route of distribution is currently non-existent and you need to recoup the cost of production so what should you do? Oh yeah your customers have already moved on and the market you used to count on, may not return. With that said, selling the movies to places like HBO, Netflix may offset or allow you to break even on a product you have to sell that no longer have a market for it. Even though the movies have never been released, there is the staleness factor that must be consider. Historically speaking, movies shot years ago, don't do as well when released years later vs being released within a year after production wrapped. Waiting for 2+ years or __ years may not make a lot of sense, when you still got the cost of production on your books that must be dealt with. For all the talk of movies going out of business and never returning, do not believe it. Since the advent of home theater, cheaper and bigger TV's, etc, etc.. the movie theaters still existed and thrive. True they may not make as much money but they still had a market and manage to continue to make a profit in the pre-covid world. I believe they will return post covid because Movie theaters have a social component to it, that cannot be replicated via the home theater experience, no how awesome the setup.
Will people return to theaters like before the virus yes they might but with changes to the must see too why when I can watch it at home. The social component of the theater is something this new generation really don't care for like my generation did they would rather watch it on a smart device. I always compare the old record store industry to the movie theater industry when things went digital they should have seen what was coming but they though it would never happen that technology would make record stores and theaters obsolete. MP3 players made it so you could get the song you want and note have to buy the whole album or CD. Now we had the best sound quality but the video quality of the TV was far behind but now both are better than most theaters and above all affordable. We can just wait and see what happens but remember this HBO was the game changer in the 80's and have always been ahead of the curve to the point they bought out one of their rivals Cinemax and with the move they just made shows the are playing the long game this is a multi year deal cause the future for theaters is uncertain right now.
 

D24OHA

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Ok, lets put this in perspective. The movie companies have already, financed and shot the movies. Covid has thrown the whole world upside down. From a business perspective, you got a product that the normal route of distribution is currently non-existent and you need to recoup the cost of production so what should you do? Oh yeah your customers have already moved on and the market you used to count on, may not return. With that said, selling the movies to places like HBO, Netflix may offset or allow you to break even on a product you have to sell that no longer have a market for it. Even though the movies have never been released, there is the staleness factor that must be consider. Historically speaking, movies shot years ago, don't do as well when released years later vs being released within a year after production wrapped. Waiting for 2+ years or __ years may not make a lot of sense, when you still got the cost of production on your books that must be dealt with. For all the talk of movies going out of business and never returning, do not believe it. Since the advent of home theater, cheaper and bigger TV's, etc, etc.. the movie theaters still existed and thrive. True they may not make as much money but they still had a market and manage to continue to make a profit in the pre-covid world. I believe they will return post covid because Movie theaters have a social component to it, that cannot be replicated via the home theater experience, no how awesome the setup.

Yeah but let's not forget that originally showing movies in theaters was not profitable. It was a means to an end, (home video sales). Studios didn't care if Robocop made back the $45 mil production budget (a made up $$), in theaters because based on the theater figures they determined that 9 months later it was gonna be a smash in home sales.

So maybe now things will find a balance....theaters decade has been filled with obsessed studios wondering what first week and week after week theater numbers are gonna be....yet we (the public) barely get numbers about home sales....except for a few Disney movies coming out of "the vault" and a monster seller like Frozen.

For too long studios have been having their cake and eating it too. Very profitable theater releases and pretty steady home sales (see any Marvel movie)....maybe now we'll start seeing a shift where the movies go theater and streaming in the same time frame. The streaming rights help the movie get close to or break even and studios only get their profits from modest theater percentages and home sales.....

Maybe more thinking out of the box to help increase profits, not solely relying on theaters to get the books there
 

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Half the country voted Trump...that's a huge market for theaters right there.

Theaters ain't going nowhere as long as Baseball, Apple Pie, and the Grand Ole Party are still around.
 

Mt. Yukon

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Uh... my guy do you have a lady? A family? One ticket is $20. Plus gas, parking and snacks and all the other bullshit that goes with it. I could watch 5 movies at home for the price of going to one. That seems pretty easy to figure lol. And I don't need 5 different services either. You confused yourself or something it seems.

Right. Just my wife and I going twice a month, youre looking at 120 ish with tickets and snacks. You can say that's the cost of doing business getting out of the house. But let's not act like the shit can't add up, and be better spent else where. Especially going forward where expendable income is gonna be kinda tight.
 

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New York (CNN Business)Adam Aron is in a surprisingly good mood for a CEO of a struggling theater chain that recently said it might not make it through the winter.
But the AMC Theatres CEO was jovial because his fortunes recently changed. The world's largest movie theater company announced Monday it had raised $917 million of new equity and debt capital since mid-December. That number would be enough to "make it through this dark coronavirus-impacted winter," the company said.
 

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New York (CNN Business)Adam Aron is in a surprisingly good mood for a CEO of a struggling theater chain that recently said it might not make it through the winter.
But the AMC Theatres CEO was jovial because his fortunes recently changed. The world's largest movie theater company announced Monday it had raised $917 million of new equity and debt capital since mid-December. That number would be enough to "make it through this dark coronavirus-impacted winter," the company said.
They have to pay back that money yeah this is going to be a mess
 

LennyNero1972

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Good luck to AMC its gonna be a minute before they can fill up them seats and since WW84 was a hit on HBO MAX this is looking like the move for real. Now gimmie my "Matrix" trailer.:cool:
 

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The future...podcasts? This is a star studded cast for a MOVIE much less a podcast!


Do you hear that? It's the sound of the Batmobile revving its engines.


Batman’s latest heroic exploit will be heard, not seen.

HBO Max is launching a Batman podcast titled Batman: The Audio Adventures, a comedic take on the Dark Knight that sees Jeffrey Wright lending his voice as the Caped Crusader.


Plot details are hidden in Crime Alley but it is known to be a comedic take on the usual rain-soaked justice-dispensing crime-fighter.

That aspect is reflected in the cast, which includes several former and current SNL player, as well as other comedians.

In addition to Wright, the all-star roll call includes Chris Parnell, Melissa Villaseñor, Seth Meyers, Brent Spiner, John Leguizamo, Ike Barinholtz, Bobby Moynihan, Kenan Thompson, Rosario Dawson, Jason Sudeikis, Alan Tudyk, Heidi Gardner, Brooke Shields, Paul Scheer, Tim Meadows, Fred Armisen, Ray Wise, Ben Rodgers, Katie Rich, Pete Schultz, Paula Pell, Toby Huss, and McNicholas.
Who the vast cast was portraying is being kept in the Batvault for now.



 
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