After Dan Le Batard ripped Trump, ESPN again faces a political mess

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After Dan Le Batard ripped Trump, ESPN again faces a political mess
The Washington Post
July 19 at 4:30 PM

Ahead of football season last fall, ESPN held a media day for reporters at its campus in Bristol, Conn., where the company’s new president, Jimmy Pitaro, gave one of his first news conferences. Pitaro, who had been on the job for just a few months, was asked to name the biggest misconception about ESPN. He did not hesitate.

"I will tell you I have been very, very clear with employees here that it is not our jobs to cover politics, purely,” he said.

Pitaro was responding to a growing critique of ESPN from many on the right, including President Trump, who charged that ESPN and some of its high-profile employees had veered too far into politics for a sports network. ESPN was sensitive to the criticism, and Pitaro wanted to address it.

Since Pitaro took over, ESPN has largely avoided political drama. But he and his network were thrust squarely back into the political spotlight Thursday afternoon when Dan Le Batard, the popular radio and TV host, rebuked both Trump and the network on his ESPN radio show. His comments came after supporters at Trump’s rally in North Carolina chanted “Send her back! Send her back!” in reference to the Somali-born Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.).

“It is so wrong, what the president of our country is doing, trying to get reelected by dividing the masses, at a time when the old white man, the old rich white man, feels oppressed, being attacked, by minorities,” Le Batard said, saying the rally and chants “felt un-American” and “deeply offensive.”

He also took aim at his own network.

“And we here at ESPN don’t have the stomach for the fight,” he said. “We don’t talk about what is happening unless there is some sort of weak, cowardly sports angle that we can run it through.”

Le Batard, whose comments created an onslaught of headlines and social media reactions, was back on the air Friday morning, even as ESPN higher-ups made clear to employees — including Le Batard — that the network’s policy on avoiding pure political commentary hasn’t changed, according to a person familiar with the matter who was not authorized to publicly discuss internal communications. Pure political commentary, for the network, refers to political coverage that has no intersection with sports.

ESPN declined to comment, and it was not clear whether Le Batard will be disciplined.



For ESPN, the pitfalls of the moment are probably familiar to any corporation that has had to navigate the Trump era. Reprimand Le Batard, who talks often of his Cuban parents who emigrated to the United States, for an impassioned monologue that resonated with many of the president’s critics and risk criticism from the left. Or do nothing and potentially revive charges of liberal bias from Trump and his supporters.

“A corporate response to Trump is almost impossible,” said Kelly McBride, a vice president at the Poynter Institute and a former ESPN ombudsman. “I would think they will do something in terms of discipline. It’s a little weird they didn’t react immediately, but maybe what they’ve learned is that if they do, they elevate Dan and they feed the controversy as part of the Trump news cycle. Strategic silence is what it’s called. So maybe they say nothing and in a couple of weeks Dan will take a vacation."

Le Batard’s comments called to mind one of the network’s previous political furors, when then-ESPN writer and TV host Jemele Hill tweeted in 2017 that Trump was a white supremacist, a comment the White House called “a fireable offense.” The episode fueled conservative critics of the network; last year, Hill and ESPN reached a buyout, which helped quiet some of criticism.

Hill said she viewed Le Batard’s commentary with pride and hoped ESPN would give him a pass.

“ESPN’s in a tough spot,” she said. “People look at them to be sports news and information and events, and that’s what their entire business is built around. At the same time we need to be realistic in 2019, especially if you’re a person of color. In this current political climate, some things are so outrageous and unacceptable that it requires people in positions like Dan to give the proper context that it needs.”

McBride suggested that clashes between ESPN’s most visible personalities and the network’s management are inevitable, whether prompted by political comments or other issues, given the contours of their relationship.

“You have a network that is built on personalities, and then you create policies that restrain where those personalities can go and what they can say,” she said. “The ideal is, Dan has a relationship with his boss where he says, ‘I need to say something about a certain topic,’ and then you figure out the outlet. Maybe it’s on the air, or maybe he writes an essay in the Atlantic."
 

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After Dan Le Batard ripped Trump, ESPN again faces a political mess
The Washington Post
July 19 at 4:30 PM

Ahead of football season last fall, ESPN held a media day for reporters at its campus in Bristol, Conn., where the company’s new president, Jimmy Pitaro, gave one of his first news conferences. Pitaro, who had been on the job for just a few months, was asked to name the biggest misconception about ESPN. He did not hesitate.

"I will tell you I have been very, very clear with employees here that it is not our jobs to cover politics, purely,” he said.

Pitaro was responding to a growing critique of ESPN from many on the right, including President Trump, who charged that ESPN and some of its high-profile employees had veered too far into politics for a sports network. ESPN was sensitive to the criticism, and Pitaro wanted to address it.

Since Pitaro took over, ESPN has largely avoided political drama. But he and his network were thrust squarely back into the political spotlight Thursday afternoon when Dan Le Batard, the popular radio and TV host, rebuked both Trump and the network on his ESPN radio show. His comments came after supporters at Trump’s rally in North Carolina chanted “Send her back! Send her back!” in reference to the Somali-born Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.).

“It is so wrong, what the president of our country is doing, trying to get reelected by dividing the masses, at a time when the old white man, the old rich white man, feels oppressed, being attacked, by minorities,” Le Batard said, saying the rally and chants “felt un-American” and “deeply offensive.”

He also took aim at his own network.

“And we here at ESPN don’t have the stomach for the fight,” he said. “We don’t talk about what is happening unless there is some sort of weak, cowardly sports angle that we can run it through.”

Le Batard, whose comments created an onslaught of headlines and social media reactions, was back on the air Friday morning, even as ESPN higher-ups made clear to employees — including Le Batard — that the network’s policy on avoiding pure political commentary hasn’t changed, according to a person familiar with the matter who was not authorized to publicly discuss internal communications. Pure political commentary, for the network, refers to political coverage that has no intersection with sports.

ESPN declined to comment, and it was not clear whether Le Batard will be disciplined.



For ESPN, the pitfalls of the moment are probably familiar to any corporation that has had to navigate the Trump era. Reprimand Le Batard, who talks often of his Cuban parents who emigrated to the United States, for an impassioned monologue that resonated with many of the president’s critics and risk criticism from the left. Or do nothing and potentially revive charges of liberal bias from Trump and his supporters.

“A corporate response to Trump is almost impossible,” said Kelly McBride, a vice president at the Poynter Institute and a former ESPN ombudsman. “I would think they will do something in terms of discipline. It’s a little weird they didn’t react immediately, but maybe what they’ve learned is that if they do, they elevate Dan and they feed the controversy as part of the Trump news cycle. Strategic silence is what it’s called. So maybe they say nothing and in a couple of weeks Dan will take a vacation."

Le Batard’s comments called to mind one of the network’s previous political furors, when then-ESPN writer and TV host Jemele Hill tweeted in 2017 that Trump was a white supremacist, a comment the White House called “a fireable offense.” The episode fueled conservative critics of the network; last year, Hill and ESPN reached a buyout, which helped quiet some of criticism.

Hill said she viewed Le Batard’s commentary with pride and hoped ESPN would give him a pass.

“ESPN’s in a tough spot,” she said. “People look at them to be sports news and information and events, and that’s what their entire business is built around. At the same time we need to be realistic in 2019, especially if you’re a person of color. In this current political climate, some things are so outrageous and unacceptable that it requires people in positions like Dan to give the proper context that it needs.”

McBride suggested that clashes between ESPN’s most visible personalities and the network’s management are inevitable, whether prompted by political comments or other issues, given the contours of their relationship.

“You have a network that is built on personalities, and then you create policies that restrain where those personalities can go and what they can say,” she said. “The ideal is, Dan has a relationship with his boss where he says, ‘I need to say something about a certain topic,’ and then you figure out the outlet. Maybe it’s on the air, or maybe he writes an essay in the Atlantic."


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I used to listen to Le Batard's Show a lot. (He's giving the background players too much of a voice in the past year or so for my taste, so I listen less now.)

It seemed he was exploiting a loophole in a way he has many times before. Regarding the issue of punishment, I think the key sentence in the monologue was “This isn’t about politics; it’s about race.” His past presentations of ESPN policy have always made it clear that they aren't allowed to talk politics but they are allowed to talk about popular culture and race. He was defending himself from punishment in the moment-- “This isn’t about politics.” There's clear precedent for talking about race and culture on that show, so I don't really see how ESPN could suspend him here. It isn't much different from him talking about Fidel Castro when Obama relaxed sanctions and prohibitions regarding Cuba, or several "cultural" commentaries he has delivered on Trump in the past.
 

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Disney is like "DAN! You fucking with this merger money! We still have to get it approved by the DOJ! STFU"
:lol:
 

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I fucks with Dan. I don't always go with him on everything, but I fucks with him. ESPN is pretty much just a live sports thing for me now. I DVR High noon, and Dans show. But that's really it. Good on him, I think ESPN needs him more than the reverse. Not that ESPN needs him, but Dam never turned his back on his home market. So he can always make bread down there.
 

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I fucks with Dan. I don't always go with him on everything, but I fucks with him. ESPN is pretty much just a live sports thing for me now. I DVR High noon, and Dans show. But that's really it. Good on him, I think ESPN needs him more than the reverse. Not that ESPN needs him, but Dam never turned his back on his home market. So he can always make bread down there.
Dan never takes sports or himself too seriously. That is what sets him apart from most sports journalists.
He didn't go national. He brought the scene to South Florida.
 

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He kept it real. They won’t suspend him. It’s too obvious they support Trump. Glad a Cac risked it all. He will lose viewers and maybe an endorsement but he’s good. Somebody almost Cac has to speak up. He showed more courage then those elected to do it. Full
boycott of espn if they even touch him. You simps need to fall in line.
 

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dan has always spoken out

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It seemed he was exploiting a loophole in a way he has many times before. Regarding the issue of punishment, I think the key sentence in the monologue was “This isn’t about politics; it’s about race.” His past presentations of ESPN policy have always made it clear that they aren't allowed to talk politics but they are allowed to talk about popular culture and race. He was defending himself from punishment in the moment-- “This isn’t about politics.” There's clear precedent for talking about race and culture on that show, so I don't really see how ESPN could suspend him here. It isn't much different from him talking about Fidel Castro when Obama relaxed sanctions and prohibitions regarding Cuba, or several "cultural" commentaries he has delivered on Trump in the past.

There are three Washington Post stories on this today... Sally Jenkins noted that ESPN "circulated a memo to employees Friday reminding them that it’s against policy to discuss 'pure politics' on air," which reinforces my point that the key sentence in Le Batard's monologue, from an ESPN perspective, was “This isn’t about politics; it’s about race.”

However, where she goes with it suggests that she doesn't really understand the concept... She's obviously coming from a more right-wing perspective and accusing ESPN of bias and playing favorites, which suggests she does not understand the fine line Le Batard mindfully walked. (I don't read her often but I'm a bit surprised by her politics and the stupidity of her response.)

ESPN should broaden political discussion instead of banning it
By Sally Jenkins
July 19 at 5:04 PM

ESPN is a complicated place where coliseum spectacle and hot takes intersect with high-sensitivity microphones, and the network’s leaders don’t really expect to keep all controversies at bay in that arena, just the inconvenient ones. Dan Le Batard broke ESPN’s blockade on politics with his condemnation of a racist chant at the president’s political rally, but the idea that the “worldwide sports leader” could ever be some kind of sealed off compartment, an airless pocket where contentious outside affairs don’t intrude, was always insincere. ESPN is more than happy to make stars of braying opinators, as long as the main thing they say is “Boom!”

To care about ESPN’s supposed no-politics policy, you first have to believe that it’s a “network” and that therefore its stance on politics really matters. It doesn’t. It’s a hybrid content production and distribution vehicle owned by Disney, and its president, Jimmy Pitaro, who came straight from there, is trying to have it not two ways but three or four ways, just as its cartoon-art movies do.

Its platforms have to court new and old viewers alike, to combine a swirling stew of entertainment and scorekeeping, edginess and tradition, sharp reporting and documentary film with slavering mythic hero worship, all in one place. It simultaneously covers, uses and “partners” with sports leagues, and it’s really, really good at all of those things. It’s hardly surprising that with so many agendas and viewers to satisfy, the network feigns to be some kind of air lock where politics don’t intrude. Le Batard called this “cowardly” and “weak ass” on his radio show, but it just is what it is: commerce.

After Le Batard condemned President Trump for instigating “racial division” at a rally in North Carolina, where crowds chanted “Send her back!” at Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), the network circulated a memo to employees Friday reminding them that it’s against policy to discuss “pure politics” on air. But what, pray tell, is “pure politics,” anyway? It’s a convenient pressure-seal, a user-friendly escape hatch, a phrase that can be bent any way the upperlings see fit, depending on the popularity of the offending broadcaster.

Is “pure politics” different from, say, “gender politics”? Apparently and conveniently so. Which is why the network continues to make a wealthy man of Stephen A. Smith, who has hazarded the opinion that women should do their part not to “provoke” domestic violence and who chats with Snoop Dog about his favorite female body parts. “I’m a bottom feeder,” he said.

Somehow, nothing Smith shouts on camera is ever deemed quite as offensive as the political takes of Curt Schilling or Jemele Hill or as dangerous as the frank observation of Linda Cohn, who was among the first to point out that the network’s increasing lean to the left was “putting old school viewers in a corner,” for which she was suspended.

ESPN’s anti “pure politics” edict is just following the dictates of its focus group research. “Without question our data tells us our fans do not want us to cover politics,” Pitaro told the Los Angeles Times. While that may be smart business, all it does is make for dumb discussion. It ensures that when a broadcaster goes politically rogue, there won’t be accompanying intelligent discussion.


If Le Batard really wants to get into the problem of “divisive” discourse and who’s driving it, then he should get all the way in. Open up the whole subject, include the fact that Omar has played her part by voicing anti-Semitic stereotypes, such as calling congressional support of Israel “all about the Benjamins.” As it is, Le Batard’s discourse, while brave, was so one-sided it’s just another forming of quarantine, another inarticulate cry of “That’s not my America!” It will do nothing to persuade those viewers who complained that ESPN was becoming a bastion of liberal political correctness.

If Le Batard really wanted to be bold, he would launch a serious bipartisan discussion of why Trump’s approval ratings remain so high, to the point that a hamburger may have a better chance of taking out Trump in the next election than any Democrat or Republican and what role his sports baiting has played in that.

Here is the problem with audience “data”: It can lead to a sameness and predictability that are the opposite of entertaining. Fox News commentators, predictably, want the U.S. women’s soccer team to shut up and dribble. The real problem with that isn’t that it’s supercilious or patronizing but that it’s boring and doesn’t lead to any kind of discovery.

There is a reason entertainment products so often fail, despite reams of viewer and listener feedback. Audience “data” fails to reflect the audience’s wish to be surprised — or to hear and see something entirely new — that it never suspected it could be engaged by. Go by “data,” and there might never have been a novel about a schoolboy and a philosopher’s stone. It’s likely that ESPN’s audience wants to hear something fresh and unexpected that it didn’t know it wanted. It’s just possible that audience would be open to politics, as long as it’s smart and not one-sided.
 

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Yep get your boots out, there's a tweetstorm ah brewin.
 

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However, where she goes with it suggests that she doesn't really understand the concept...
Thats the story of her journalistic life.. Privileged propped up white woman who started believing her own hype and thus let her ego become its own entity, resulting in trash pieces like this which are heavy handed in opinion and subjective tripe and very light on substance, research, and actual journalism. Shes been phoning in bullshit articles like this from NY for nearly two decades now.
 

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He kept it real. They won’t suspend him. It’s too obvious they support Trump. Glad a Cac risked it all. He will lose viewers and maybe an endorsement but he’s good. Somebody almost Cac has to speak up. He showed more courage then those elected to do it. Full
boycott of espn if they even touch him. You simps need to fall in line.

This. If ESPN suspends him for... Just NOT be racist and speaking what every decent person knows to be true... Fuck them, fuck any sponsors that pull out, and fuck anyone that says anyhting against it. The only people triggered by what he said are racists, period.
 

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This. If ESPN suspends him for... Just NOT be racist and speaking what every decent person knows to be true... Fuck them, fuck any sponsors that pull out, and fuck anyone that says anyhting against it. The only people triggered by what he said are racists, period.

I listened to his show on Friday and he mentioned to Mina Kimes that he had been too busy to read up on the Tyreke Hill story and she said "Yeah, you have." Not hard to read between the lines and see that was a reference to ESPN meetings.

But he knows where the line is and did not cross it. He even slickly framed the issue as a response to a FOX Sports anchor tweet while ironically complaining that ESPN employees are only allowed to discuss issues when they piggyback off something a sports figure said. He'll be fine.
 

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https://deadspin.com/report-espn-reminds-employees-of-craven-no-politics-po-1836577506

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Report: ESPN Reminds Employees Of Craven No-Politics Policy In Wake Of Dan Le Batard's Criticism Of The Network And Trump

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It was only a matter of time before ESPN decided to do something in response to Dan Le Batard very correctly calling the network’s anti-politics stance “cowardly,” after he denounced the “send her back” chants that Trump’s racist supporters decided to hoot and holler on Thursday. Surprisingly, however, the response was a relatively tame, and quite passive-aggressive, emailed reminder to network employees of that very policy, according to AP’s David Bauder.

Per the report:

The reminder went out Friday to all employees, including Le Batard, according to an ESPN employee who spoke on condition of anonymity Saturday because the person was not authorized to speak publicly about personnel matters.

ESPN has not spoken publicly about Le Batard’s comments, including whether he faces any disciplinary action.

Reached on Saturday, Le Batard also declined comment.

Just like the report itself notes, Le Batard’s comments drew immediate parallels to what happened with former ESPN employee Jemele Hill late last year. In Hill’s case, the network’s PR team issued an apology for her describing Donald Trump as a white supremacist. She was suspended a couple weeks laterfor violating ESPN’s social media guidelines when she had the gall to mention that boycotting advertisers would be a good way to protest Jerry Jones’s comments about sitting players who don’t stand for the anthem. Hill clarified at the end of her harmless tweets that she was not, in fact, calling for a boycott.

Meanwhile, any sort of planned punishment that ESPN has for Le Batard has been far from swift. He was still on the air on Friday, and there’s been no public comment from the network about what he (again, correctly) said on his show. This is objectively a good thing, but you probably don’t have to think too hard about the differences between these two situations to arrive at an explanation as to why they’re being treated differently—Le Batard did mention Hill in his diatribe, for what it’s worth.

But maybe there’s even an optimistic explanation for this discrepancy. There’s always a chance, however unlikely, that the network whose leader said ESPN’s fans “do not want us to cover politics,” and sold out a prominent black female worker to the Big Wet President and the NFL, maybe had a change of heart about this gutless policy in recent months.
 

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I salute Dan

a lot of Cubans are Republican for some reason...

When Trump is talking about Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic....he's talking about them too.

So how he treated Puerto Rico

or his comments about AOC

You aren't as white as you try to be

Does Dan talk about these white cubans who voted for Desantis? Since Dan's in Miami....

I don't follow sports like that but I need to know. If he doesn't then it's fake news...
 

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So dan and his pops gonna be gone now?

It wasn't pure politics! He was mainly talking about the role of sports commentary. ESPN is being ridiculous.

Maybe I'm just used to how Le Batard operated under John Skipper, the last president of ESPN, who was a friend of his and who Le Batard painted as truly committed to diversity, but I'm surprised by the way they seem to be coming down on him.

He said on his show today he just has to get through two more days, whatever that means. (Maybe a pre-planned vacation? Possibly more significant?)
 

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Bill Simmons Doesn't Think This Plays Out Well for Dan Le Batard's Future at ESPN
By: Bobby Burack
The Big Lead

Bill Simmons doesn’t have much confidence in Dan Le Batard's future at ESPN. On his podcast, Simmons discussed what Le Batard’s decision to get political on ESPN airwaves could mean going forward:

Simmons is no stranger to testing ESPN management. He did it in his final year at the company more than once. It’s easy to envision a scenario where neither Le Batard nor ESPN get over this. But Le Batard did just sign a new contract so the two sides may just have to deal with it for the time being. But this will be far from desirable going forward.

As Simmons said, Le Batard doesn’t come across as someone who is going to change his ways. And now, each time he comes even somewhat close to this line, it’s going to become a national story.

If Le Batard does leave ESPN, DAZN and SiriusXM are the most logical destinations.

Bill Simmons: Hard for Dan Le Batard to survive brewing ‘s–t show’
By Greg Joyce
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July 23, 2019

As someone who would know from experience, Bill Simmons doesn’t believe things are going to end well for Dan Le Batard at ESPN.

Le Batard made waves Thursday when the talk show host commented on President Trump and the “Send her back” chants, regarding Rep. Ilhan Omar, at a rally last week. He also criticized ESPN’s policy on not talking about politics — which, in turn, he violated — and called it “cowardly.”

Le Batard, after speaking with ESPN president Jimmy Pitaro over the weekend, opted not to do his radio show on Monday morning, but returned on Tuesday. Simmons said the situation reminded him “a little bit” of his own experience at ESPN. And while Le Batard appears to have survived the initial storm, more issues could be coming.

“To me, reading the tea leaves, it doesn’t seem like it’s going to go that well,” Simmons said on “The Bill Simmons Podcast” posted Monday on The Ringer.

“I don’t think this plays out in a great way for his future there, because once you go down this road, now any time he says anything, it’s going to be blog posts and news stories, all that stuff. I just think he’s not one of those guys who’s going to be like, ‘I’m not saying anything.’ Especially, you have an election coming next year and I just don’t see him backing off.”


Simmons’ falling out with ESPN began in 2014, when he ripped NFL commissioner Roger Goodell for his handling of the Ray Rice case and was subsequently suspended. Simmons said he knew what he was doing when he was going after Goodell, knew it was going to be a problem for ESPN, “and I just didn’t care.” It ultimately led to him leaving the company in 2015.

Now the founder of The Ringer, Simmons compared his controversy to Le Batard’s.

“Le Batard’s a really smart guy,” Simmons said. “I don’t feel like they are accidents.”

Simmons said he is friends with Le Batard but had not talked to him in the last week. He believes ESPN just wants to stick to games and highlights.

“He’s a really proud guy who, I feel like, at some point he looked at it and said, ‘I have a platform, I’m on live radio right now, and I’m just going to use the platform for this and I know there’s going to be repercussions,'” Simmons said. “So is that a good thing? Yes, it is a good thing. On the other hand, it’s going to cause a s–t show for him. It’s not something that’s going to go away.

“I’ve found out, with all my NFL stuff in 2014, once you pass this point and you become kind of a story, for lack of a better word, within the company and it’s you vs. ESPN or it’s this person said this. Then ESPN’s in a position now where, if they discipline him, everybody gets even madder. If they don’t discipline him, then it’s basically they’re saying, ‘Our policy means nothing, it’s now a free-for-all, say what you want.’ He’s putting them in that position.”

The year Simmons left ESPN, Le Batard was asked about his situation and shared an opinion that is relevant again.

“Nobody in the company is too important to ever get the [ax],” Le Batard told USA Today’s FTW blog. “Anybody can leave without it harming ESPN. So when you get a situation that America’s most popular sportswriter is given a lot and wants more — whether it’s freedom or money — and on top of that you have a Bill Simmons that, it’s been reported, has issues with management. When you put those three together, ESPN’s going to let somebody go. The rest of us are just hanging onto them.”

 

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Bill Simmons Doesn't Think This Plays Out Well for Dan Le Batard's Future at ESPN
By: Bobby Burack
The Big Lead

Bill Simmons doesn’t have much confidence in Dan Le Batard's future at ESPN. On his podcast, Simmons discussed what Le Batard’s decision to get political on ESPN airwaves could mean going forward:

Simmons is no stranger to testing ESPN management. He did it in his final year at the company more than once. It’s easy to envision a scenario where neither Le Batard nor ESPN get over this. But Le Batard did just sign a new contract so the two sides may just have to deal with it for the time being. But this will be far from desirable going forward.

As Simmons said, Le Batard doesn’t come across as someone who is going to change his ways. And now, each time he comes even somewhat close to this line, it’s going to become a national story.

If Le Batard does leave ESPN, DAZN and SiriusXM are the most logical destinations.

Bill Simmons: Hard for Dan Le Batard to survive brewing ‘s–t show’
By Greg Joyce
New York Post
July 23, 2019

As someone who would know from experience, Bill Simmons doesn’t believe things are going to end well for Dan Le Batard at ESPN.

Le Batard made waves Thursday when the talk show host commented on President Trump and the “Send her back” chants, regarding Rep. Ilhan Omar, at a rally last week. He also criticized ESPN’s policy on not talking about politics — which, in turn, he violated — and called it “cowardly.”

Le Batard, after speaking with ESPN president Jimmy Pitaro over the weekend, opted not to do his radio show on Monday morning, but returned on Tuesday. Simmons said the situation reminded him “a little bit” of his own experience at ESPN. And while Le Batard appears to have survived the initial storm, more issues could be coming.

“To me, reading the tea leaves, it doesn’t seem like it’s going to go that well,” Simmons said on “The Bill Simmons Podcast” posted Monday on The Ringer.

“I don’t think this plays out in a great way for his future there, because once you go down this road, now any time he says anything, it’s going to be blog posts and news stories, all that stuff. I just think he’s not one of those guys who’s going to be like, ‘I’m not saying anything.’ Especially, you have an election coming next year and I just don’t see him backing off.”


Simmons’ falling out with ESPN began in 2014, when he ripped NFL commissioner Roger Goodell for his handling of the Ray Rice case and was subsequently suspended. Simmons said he knew what he was doing when he was going after Goodell, knew it was going to be a problem for ESPN, “and I just didn’t care.” It ultimately led to him leaving the company in 2015.

Now the founder of The Ringer, Simmons compared his controversy to Le Batard’s.

“Le Batard’s a really smart guy,” Simmons said. “I don’t feel like they are accidents.”

Simmons said he is friends with Le Batard but had not talked to him in the last week. He believes ESPN just wants to stick to games and highlights.

“He’s a really proud guy who, I feel like, at some point he looked at it and said, ‘I have a platform, I’m on live radio right now, and I’m just going to use the platform for this and I know there’s going to be repercussions,'” Simmons said. “So is that a good thing? Yes, it is a good thing. On the other hand, it’s going to cause a s–t show for him. It’s not something that’s going to go away.

“I’ve found out, with all my NFL stuff in 2014, once you pass this point and you become kind of a story, for lack of a better word, within the company and it’s you vs. ESPN or it’s this person said this. Then ESPN’s in a position now where, if they discipline him, everybody gets even madder. If they don’t discipline him, then it’s basically they’re saying, ‘Our policy means nothing, it’s now a free-for-all, say what you want.’ He’s putting them in that position.”

The year Simmons left ESPN, Le Batard was asked about his situation and shared an opinion that is relevant again.

“Nobody in the company is too important to ever get the [ax],” Le Batard told USA Today’s FTW blog. “Anybody can leave without it harming ESPN. So when you get a situation that America’s most popular sportswriter is given a lot and wants more — whether it’s freedom or money — and on top of that you have a Bill Simmons that, it’s been reported, has issues with management. When you put those three together, ESPN’s going to let somebody go. The rest of us are just hanging onto them.”


I heard the whole show...

And Simmons coming from experience

And Dan would get TONS of offers

But it sucks for his father and the staff if that happens...

And for them to essentially dismiss Jemelle, mike Smith etc...

By the way? Gave that white girl a pass

And now dismiss Dan?

Does ESPN REALLY want to fall on the wrong side of history on this?
 
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I heard the whole show...

And Simmons coming from experience

And Dan would gey TONS of offers

But ot sucks for his father and the staff if that happens...

And for them to essentially dismiss Jenelle, mike Smith

Give that white girl a pass

And now dismiss Dan?

Dies ESPN REALLY want to fall on the wrong side of history on this?

IIRC the Skipper resignation story broke when Le Batard was on air and he was in tears over it. Always talked about Skipper as a champion of diversity. It seems ESPN has changed.

Dan's going to make sure his staff is taken care of if they move. I'm really amazed that it could come to that over this, though. They've had a running joke where the show periodically randomly ends with a clip of Gregg Popovich saying "We live in a racist country." I could make a really long list of more political commentary than this from Dan-- His Fidel Castro baseball stuff stands out most to me. Some promoted by ESPN, some covered in other media. It's ridiculous that ESPN is making this out to be the last straw.
 
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SpiritualPorn

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I heard the whole show...

And Simmons coming from experience

And Dan would gey TONS of offers

But ot sucks for his father and the staff if that happens...

And for them to essentially dismiss Jenelle, mike Smith

Give that white girl a pass

And now dismiss Dan?

Dies ESPN REALLY want to fall on the wrong side of history on this?
ESPN started with the politics and lost business.

Personally, I don't want to hear that shit. I watch sports to get away from politics.
 

Rembrandt Brown

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ESPN started with the politics and lost business.

Personally, I don't want to hear that shit. I watch sports to get away from politics.

The issue is that politics are always there-- It is just a matter of what and who's politics are acceptable.

The national anthem didn't become political with Colin Kapernick. The very fact that it is played at the start of games is an incredibly big political statement.

The NFL promotes the military as uncontroversially as it promotes breast cancer awareness.

If there's a 9/11-style event, I promise you ESPN will permit much political commentary-- As long as it's the right kind about American heroes, rallying around the flag and condemning of evil overseas villains.

Sometimes real shit gets in the way of games. A political assassination. War or terrorism. Everyone accepts that. But, if you're a network that employs and respects brown people, the most extreme and unprecedented actions of a white nationalist president would and should be on that level IMO.
 

Complex

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I heard the whole show...

And Simmons coming from experience

And Dan would gey TONS of offers

But ot sucks for his father and the staff if that happens...

And for them to essentially dismiss Jenelle, mike Smith

Give that white girl a pass

And now dismiss Dan?

Dies ESPN REALLY want to fall on the wrong side of history on this?

Tons of offers, but not even close to being as big as what he has now.

So go someplace else where you hardly get heard? That actually could hurt your money in the long run.

And you guys need to stop with the she said it so someone else should get away with it too. Dan attacked ESPN. Not just Trump. And Dan has said shit before.
 

Complex

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And speaking about the shit...I watch sports to get away from Trump bullshit. Sports is entertainment to me.

How many of you would want to have it the other way? Where Will Cain openly shits on Democrats or a democratic president? Would that be cool?

You can't have it one way, without expecting the other...

Would you be cool with and defend Will Cain, well they let Dan get away with it?

If I wanted to hear about Trump I'd turn on MSNBC or watch the Young Turks or some shit...not turn on fuckin ESPN. I want to hear Stephen A's political commentary of the day?
 

therealjondoe

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And speaking about the shit...I watch sports to get away from Trump bullshit. Sports is entertainment to me.

How many of you would want to have it the other way? Where Will Cain openly shits on Democrats or a democratic president? Would that be cool?

You can't have it one way, without expecting the other...

Would you be cool with and defend Will Cain, well they let Dan get away with it?

If I wanted to hear about Trump I'd turn on MSNBC or watch the Young Turks or some shit...not turn on fuckin ESPN. I want to hear Stephen A's political commentary of the day?
Is hate and prejudice politics?
I dont think there is an equivalent on the other side
 
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