Adobe Discontinues Development of Flash Player on Mobile Devices

[MadWun]

I don't see what the big deal is or why Apple fanboys are laughing at Android people. Android supports BOTH Flash and HTML 5. Plus, everyone knew the day was gonna come when the transition from flash to html 5 was going to start happening.

Agreed

When this news becomes official then it will only be time before Flash is dead on mobile. No one in their right mind will create a website that requires a non-supported/updated plugin - it'll be dumb of the developer to do so and a waste of money for the client.

Especially for mobile browsing sites it will be a good thing to not have to rely on an extra plug-in for videos or other animations/games to work.

It is beyond frustrating when it happens on the iPhone.

 

[AgentCreed]

When this news becomes official then it will only be time before Flash is dead on mobile. No one in their right mind will create a website that requires a non-supported/updated plugin - it'll be dumb of the developer to do so and a waste of money for the client.

Luckily on android I and others can view non-mobile websites on our phones and tablets.

 

[sj808]

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[sj808]

You apple fan boys are hilarious... Its like y'all don't realize android devices can do html5 as well. Wtf is wrong with you people??

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[respiration]

Luckily on android I and others can view non-mobile websites on our phones and tablets.

So can I on my iPads...

 

[Deuterion]

Luckily on android I and others can view non-mobile websites on our phones and tablets.

I said nothing about Android.

 

[AgentCreed]

So can I on my iPads...

Not flash sites...not without a workaround or a browser...I have an iPad too, replying to u on it now actually

 

[Studio718]

Divine is acting like apple created HTML 5, lol.

 

[MadWun]

So can I on my iPads...

Stop it. Flash does not work on iOS devices

 

[AgentCreed]

Divine is acting like apple created HTML 5, lol.

All the istans are... They're going wild on macrumors... It's hilarious...

 

[respiration]

Not flash sites...not without a workaround or a browser...I have an iPad too, replying to u on it now actually

Do you not use a browser to access flash sites on your Android devices? I do too. It's just not the native browser.

Stop it. Flash does not work on iOS devices

Maybe others run into websites they can't see on their iPads. But the ones I visit, I have no problem with. I use the Puffin browser to surf the web (including bgol, watch the embedded vids in posts etc).

Alternately, I can use the Splashtop Desktop app and have any and all of my desktop PC's monitor replicated on the iPad, with audio and video.

 

[MadWun]

Do you not use a browser to access flash sites on your Android devices? I do too. It's just not the native browser.

Maybe others run into websites they can't see on their iPads. But the ones I visit, I have no problem with. I use the Puffin browser to surf the web (including bgol, watch the embedded vids in posts etc).

Alternately, I can use the Splashtop Desktop app and have any and all of my desktop PC's monitor replicated on the iPad, with audio and video.

Not flash sites...not without a workaround or a browser...I have an iPad too, replying to u on it now actually

 

[Ryokurin]

You apple fan boys are hilarious... Its like y'all don't realize android devices can do html5 as well. Wtf is wrong with you people??

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No one has said anything like that. it's about going to a open standard, something that Android heads usually are big on promoting, well until supporting something proprietary became a talking point to promote your beliefs.

 

[Deuterion]

No one has said anything like that. it's about going to a open standard, something that Android heads usually are big on promoting, well until supporting something proprietary became a talking point to promote your beliefs.

Flash is not about to be "open" it's about to die and Steve Jobs was the first one to call Adobe out openly on it. Let's not front like one of the biggest selling point of Apple alternate devices was not flash. People were like flash this and flash that while Apple supporters kept going with Steve Jobs talking points which were "HTML 5 is going to take over and Flash will die." Now fast forward not even a year later...what do you know? Adobe actually agrees with Steve Jobs. So all those who kept saying that Apple was crippling their devices have shown that they don't know what they were talking about.

Apple has shown itself to be a forward thinking company from the gui, to the first computer without a disk drive, to iDevices, and so this is just a continuation of that tradition. People are saying that Flash is not dead but those are the same people who said it was going to be around forever. The simple fact is that when flash was support completely, it was riddled with bugs and exploits. NOW Adobe has said that they will no longer develop it so do you think it's going to get better for Flash? It's just going to wither into the storm first on mobile and then on desktop. Oh and what do you know...Microsoft is most likely going to cancel silverlight as well.

 

[respiration]

So, y'all don't use a browser to surf the web on your devices? It makes no difference to me that I'm using a 3rd party browser to surf the web and not my devices' native browsers. The "workaround" - as AgentCreed put it - to be able to see Flash, is a one-time deal...obtaining the app. After that's done, that 3rd party browser is just an icon to tap on and use - just like you tap an icon to access your browser.

I think you might have me confused with someone who is debating the merits of iOS devices not having a native browser to see ALL of the web vs Android's having that ability. There is no debate to be had there, because we all know Apple's iOS native devices' browser is not flash-friendly.

Now, can I personally, still navigate the web with ease and look at the things I want? Of course.

 

[divine]

cats supporting flash even when the owners are jumpin off that ship.

 

[divine]

Divine is acting like apple created HTML 5, lol.

No idiot. I'm actIng like flash sucks and HTML5 is the next evolution of web markup language. Btw - Adobe agrees.

 

[MadWun]

So, y'all don't use a browser to surf the web on your devices? It makes no difference to me that I'm using a 3rd party browser to surf the web and not my devices' native browsers. The "workaround" - as AgentCreed put it - to be able to see Flash, is a one-time deal...obtaining the app. After that's done, that 3rd party browser is just an icon to tap on and use - just like you tap an icon to access your browser.

I think you might have me confused with someone who is debating the merits of iOS devices not having a native browser to see ALL of the web vs Android's having that ability. There is no debate to be had there, because we all know Apple's iOS native devices' browser is not flash-friendly.

Now, can I personally, still navigate the web with ease and look at the things I want? Of course.

As you have just stated, on an iOS device, it only works with a "workaround"

that's my only argument. Android does not need an extra app or browser in order to run flash.

 

[Deuterion]

As you have just stated, on an iOS device, it only works with a "workaround"

that's my only argument. Android does not need an extra app or browser in order to run flash.

It needs an extra plugin though.

 

[FUCKYOU]

I have a ipad2 and sorry to say this no flash shit is a bitch! I also use puffin browser and it crashes and takes time for the flash video to load.. Sometimes it doesnt even detect the flash video.. Its a pain in the ass when i want to watch my tv series shows on my ipad..

 

[BlackArsenic]

It will no longer be a game changer.

Web developers will adapt other alternatives (HTML5), and flash will start it's slow death.

Still waiting for this adaption.

 

[Zei]

This shit is stupid

Chrome is coming to android devies which already has flash and HTML5 embedded

STFU and move on

 

[ljinsane]

how does it work on your ipad/iphone?

and Murdacity is ONPOINT with EVERYTHING he said

 

[ljinsane]

This shit is stupid

Chrome is coming to android devies which already has flash and HTML5 embedded

STFU and move on

 

[ljinsane]

i don't see what the big deal is or why apple fanboys are laughing at android people. Android supports both flash and html 5. Plus, everyone knew the day was gonna come when the transition from flash to html 5 was going to start happening.

boom

 

[respiration]

As you have just stated, on an iOS device, it only works with a "workaround"

that's my only argument. Android does not need an extra app or browser in order to run flash.

That is true, but as I also stated, that's not my argument. In the end, it's about whether your device does what you want it to do. For me, I knew what iDevices were capable of and incapable of doing from jump. When it came time for me to make my purchases. their browser not having Flash wasn't a game-changer for me.

That's especially true since I do a lot more with my tablets than surf the web - photo-editing, music-making, media-streaming, games for example...I think for people who are not really into exploring for cool and useful apps and just mainly want a tablet for websurfing, there are enough other tablets that are just as good or better for that purpose.

I have a ipad2 and sorry to say this no flash shit is a bitch! I also use puffin browser and it crashes and takes time for the flash video to load.. Sometimes it doesnt even detect the flash video.. Its a pain in the ass when i want to watch my tv series shows on my ipad..

I've never attempted to watch streaming tv shows on my iPad(s).

I used to wonder from your posts why you seemed to be having so much trouble with Puffin, and now I see why. I usually just DVR shows I want to see. Most Flash I encounter while surfing tends to be stuff like vids embedded in posts on forums. I've had no problem with those nor with most sites I've visited that feature Flash videos.

But, based on your last post, I opened up Puffin and tried to watch an episode of American Horror Story from it's website.

Though I had no issues with load time, the video was a bit choppy and there was no Puffin popup full-screen prompt. If going to tv networks' websites and watching tv episodes on them is what you mainly want to do with your tablet, then yeah...the iPad might not be the best of friends to you.

 

[MadWun]

That is true, but as I also stated, that's not my argument. In the end, it's about whether your device does what you want it to do. For me, I knew what iDevices were capable of and incapable of doing from jump. When it came time for me to make my purchases. their browser not having Flash wasn't a game-changer for me.

That's especially true since I do a lot more with my tablets than surf the web - photo-editing, music-making, media-streaming, games for example...I think for people who are not really into exploring for cool and useful apps and just mainly want a tablet for websurfing, there are enough other tablets that are just as good or better for that purpose.

Well put, and now I understand your point.

What irks me are those folks who complain that iOS does not do flash, and you put it best, then it is not the tablet or device for you.

 

[divine]

R.I.P Adobe Flash: The Crashes Won't Be Missed



Rebecca Greenfield – Wed Nov 9, 11:15 am ET

Adobe has finally decided to let go of Flash for mobile platforms (it's not giving up the desktop quite yet), it acccording to its blog, and focus more on HTML5. The news had first leaked on ZDNet. This is a big victory for the tech giants that had been resisting Flash on its mobile devices like Apple's Steve Jobs, who refused to submit to Adobe's dominance in iOS, causing a sort of Flash versus HTML5 showdown. Microsoft had taken Apple's side in the HTML5 vs. Flash war, announcing its new mobile operating system, Windows 8, would forgo Flash.

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"This makes HTML5 the best solution for creating and deploying content in the browser across mobile platforms," writes Adobe Vice President Danny Winokur on the company's blog. He's late to agree with that point. The end of mobile Flash doesn't really mean anything for people suffering with Flash players on Android phones now -- Flash won't magically disappear -- but it suggests a crash-less, Flash-less future.
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Still, at the start of 2011 there were around 20 million devices that still require Flash out there, reports The Guardian's Charles Arthur. And Adobe estimated by the end of this year that number would leap to 200 million. Instead of running Flash, Adobe will "be focused on enabling Flash developers to package native apps with Adobe AIR for all the major app stores," writes Winokur. Most future devices -- with notable exception of the BlackBerry PlayBook, which will have Flash 11.1 -- will be Flash-free.

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There's a reason Adobe has decided to kill off its mobile flash efforts and not its desktop version. While Flash works (mostly) fine for running videos and animations on computers, Flash on mobile phones, as TechCrunch's MG Siegler eloquently put it, "sucked." Or less caustically, Nieman Lab's Joshua Benton wrote that it was "buggy, slow and crashy." And as Jobs explained in his April 2010 public Adobe Flash takedown, Flash just couldn't get its mobile act together. "We have routinely asked Adobe to show us Flash performing well on a mobile device, any mobile device, for a few years now," he wrote on Apple's site. "We have never seen it."

 

[respiration]

Well put, and now I understand your point.

What irks me are those folks who complain that iOS does not do flash, and you put it best, then it is not the tablet or device for you.

C/S.

I think kats get excited about the new toy that's out and they skip doing homework.

Assessing what you need, what you want and what you're willing to compromise is step one. Step two is to RESEARCH the facts, pros and cons of products. Compare and contrast. Demo devices in-store if possible. For those who do those things, there should be few unpleasant surprises.

 

[divine]

Adobe Developer admits that their decision was because of Apple not adopting Flash

Chambers iterates five main reasons why Adobe decided that its resources were better spent elsewhere:

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-Flash was never going to gain ubiquity on mobile devices, thanks to the fact that Apple resolutely refused to adopt the technology on the iPhone or iPad. "No matter what we did, the Flash Player was not going to be available on Apple’s iOS anytime in the foreseeable future," he says.

-Meanwhile, HTML5 is ubiquitous. "On mobile devices, HTML5 provides a similar level of ubiquity that the Flash Player provides on the desktop," Chambers says.

-Users don't consume content on mobile in the same way they do on desktop. Differences in screen sizes, latency from wireless networks and the ubiquity of app stores made Flash less relevant on handheld devices.

-Developing browser plugins for mobile is much more challenging than the desktop. It requires more partnerships with OS developers, mobile hardware manufacturers and component manufacturers. "Developing the Flash Player for mobile browsers has proven to require much more resources than we anticipated," Chambers admits.
Adobe wanted to shift more resources to HTML5, and dropping Flash for mobile frees them to do so.