A Muslim Soldier's View from Fort Hood

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Very interesting read... not CP approved

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kamran-pasha/a-muslim-soldiers-view-fr_b_348973.html

Major Nidal Malik Hasan is a murderer and has brought great shame upon every American Muslim in the armed forces.

There are currently over 10,000 Muslim soldiers in the U.S. military, men and women who are patriotic and love their country and their fellow service members. Hasan’s evil actions, the murder of his fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, have now brought those honorable soldiers’ loyalties into question.

The Islamophobe community on the Internet is trumpeting how Hasan’s behavior is reflective of the threat Americans face from their Muslim neighbors, and how radical Islamists have infiltrated the ranks of our military. Calls for purging the military, and perhaps even the United States, of its Muslim members have already begun.

Today there are dozens of families mourning the attack on their loved ones by a fellow-in-arms. And there are hundreds of Muslims at Fort Hood who knew Hasan and are stunned that he would betray their country and their community with such cold, calculated ease. Hasan’s rampage has truly shattered many more lives than we can begin to imagine.

I spoke today with a friend who is a Muslim soldier stationed at Fort Hood. He is a 22-year veteran of the U.S. Army and a recent convert to Islam. He agreed to share his perspective with me if I granted him anonymity. So we will call him Richard.

Richard is exactly the kind of soldier we need to protect our country from those that seek to do us harm. A combat veteran who has served in Iraq, Richard became interested in studying Islam initially as a strategic means of understanding his adversary in the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks. But as he began to study the religion’s teachings, he became struck by how different they were from what was being claimed by men like Osama Bin Laden.

Instead of a religion of hatred and misogyny, he found an Islam of love, wisdom, and human empowerment. His strategic analysis blossomed into spiritual identification, and Richard embraced Islam just over two years ago. As a “revert” (as Muslim converts like to call themselves, since Islam believes everyone is born a Muslim), Richard was faced with the added challenge of being a soldier in a conflict in which members of his new faith were on the other side.

Richard decided that the best way he could be true to his military oath and his religious convictions was to use his position as an American Muslim soldier to build bridges of understanding. He currently works as a liaison between the U.S. military and Muslim leaders in the Middle East to garner their support against the common enemy – the Islamist radicals who oppose both the American military and the mainstream Muslim community that wants nothing to do with their extremism. Richard has very much been in the forefront of our military’s efforts to win hearts and minds in the Muslim world.

Richard first met Major Hasan in July 2009 when the latter arrived at Fort Hood. According to Richard, there are between 300-500 Muslim families that live at Fort Hood, and everyone in the community is associated with the base either as a service member or in a civilian support capacity. The Muslim community is largely South Asian, hailing from Indian, Pakistani, and other sub-continental backgrounds. The community is prosperous, with many doctors and professionals at its core. The Muslims at Fort Hood live in harmony with their neighbors, and from Richard’s experience, most were happy to be associated with the U.S. military and viewed their work through a lens of profound patriotism.

Richard assumed that the newcomer, Nidal Malik Hasan, shared the values of the other Muslim community members. He found Hasan to be a friendly man who did not initially appear to be a radical, and they bonded as fellow Muslims on the base. Richard and Hasan would often pray together, and during the last 10 days of Ramadan, the two men secluded themselves inside the local mosque for a period of reflection and worship.

And, fatefully, Richard and Hasan prayed side-by-side at the mosque the morning of the massacre, after they had engaged in a friendly competition to see who could recite the azan, the call to prayer, first. After prayers that morning, Hasan left while Richard and a few others remained behind to recite the Qur’an. Hasan appeared relaxed and not in any way troubled or nervous.

A few hours later, Hasan fired two guns on his fellow soldiers and forever shattered dozens of lives, as well as the peaceful community of trust and respect that Muslims had built at Fort Hood.

Richard said that he and other members of the Muslim community are struggling to understand how this happened. Looking back, Richard said that he did find some aspects of Hasan’s worldview troubling, but he had no indication that the man was capable of mass murder.

Richard remembered one of his first conversations with Hasan. The newly-arrived army psychiatrist told Richard that he felt the “war on terror” was really a war against Islam, and that perhaps Muslims should not be part of the US military.

Richard told Nidal that he disagreed. First, he did not believe as a Muslim that the current conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan are part of a grand conspiracy to destroy Islam. And second, even if a Muslim believed that a specific military action was wrong, he could not escape responsibility for it just by resigning from the military. The reality was that his or her taxes would still be used to fund the campaign, and so American Muslims were invested in the situation whether they liked it or not.

Richard’s view as a Muslim was that he had a responsibility to do good in whatever situation he found himself in. He was a Muslim in the American military at a time when the United States was in conflict with areas of the Muslim world. Richard’s role was to do his part as a Muslim by creating new friendships and partnerships between the American military and the Muslim community.

But Hasan clearly did not share Richard’s point of view, and Richard decided not to get into an argument with a fellow solider he had just met. And so the two moved on from their dispute and established a friendship as fellow Muslims in the Fort Hood community.

As Richard got to know Hasan better over the next several months, he found the major to be a pious man who was at the mosque daily. But Richard also began to garner a sense of Hasan’s political views that troubled him. A black-and-white outlook on Islam and life that had no room for nuance or debate. Hasan had apparently attended a mosque led by an imam named Anwar Al-Awlaki, a Yemeni scholar whose political views Richard disagrees with.

Awlaki is a controversial figure among Muslims, and has been accused by the Congressional Joint Inquiry on 9/11 of serving as a “spiritual advisor” to two of the Septmeber 11 hijackers. While Richard is careful to say that he respects much of Awlaki’s historical scholarship, he rejects his political ideology, which posits a black-and-white, us versus them, view of America’s relationship with the Islamic world.

Richard’s own study of Islam has revealed that such a harsh dualistic approach to religion is very much against the history of Islamic thought and practice. Indeed, debate is central to the Islamic tradition, and mainstream Muslims have always understood that true faith requires openness to nuance and subtlety. In my novel, Mother of the Believers, which tells the story of Islam from the perspective of Aisha, Prophet Muhammad’s wife, I discuss how the early Muslim community engaged in profound debate and discourse in the search for truth. An embrace of subtlety and intellectual sophistication is inherent to the Islamic tradition.

But this kind of subtlety is anathema to fundamentalists of any religion or ideology, who are incapable of seeing other points of view. And the backlash against my book by Muslim fundamentalists reveals the deep-seated fear that such people have of mainstream Muslims’ efforts to take back the discourse from those who cannot accept shades of grey in life and faith.

Richard does not know how heavily Hasan was influenced by fundamentalist thinkers like Awlaki. But the major’s views were definitely troubling. Richard described an incident where Hasan made some anti-Semitic comments about Jews as a nation being “cursed by God” in Islam. Richard responded that the Qur’an does not condemn any group of people collectively, and that no one is born “cursed” by their ancestry.

Indeed, even though there are verses that are critical of some Jews who were political opponents to Prophet Muhammad, the Qur’an states very clearly that it is speaking only in relation to those who do evil, not those who do good, and that God judges people by their actions. (3:75-76). Another verse is even more explicit:

“Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish scriptures, and the Christians and the Sabians -- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” (2:62)

When Richard made this point, Hasan became flustered and simply responded that as a “revert” Richard clearly did not know Islam as well as he did, someone who had been raised as a Muslim. But from Richard’s point of view, Hasan was simply regurgitating cultural attitudes and prejudices and cloaking them in the form of religion. And in the process he was blinding himself to what Islam actually taught.

A second incident that revealed the hints of radicalism inside Hasan’s worldview took place when Richard once asked a group of Muslims on the base whether they would consider the Taliban to be members of “Ahl-as-Sunna,” the Arabic term for those who follow the Prophet’s tradition and life example. It is a short-hand among many Muslims to denote those who are “mainstream” versus those who are “misguided.” Hasan became angry that Richard could even ask such a question, but the other Muslims rose to Richard’s defense, pointing out that the Taliban are a patchwork of a variety of groups, many of whom are clearly way out of the mainstream Islam as practiced by the vast majority of believers. Richard was taken aback by Hasan’s sudden anger at what had been seconds before a friendly discussion.

Perhaps most troubling are Hasan’s views on suicide bombing. The major has posted his opinions on the Internet, suggesting that he viewed at least some suicide bombers as the moral equivalent of soldiers who throw themselves on grenades to save others. Readers of my work will know that I have stated very clearly and with deep conviction that suicide bombing is a violation of Islam’s basic rules of war (and I have received death threats from radicals who disagree with me).

Richard shared my views, and when Hasan attempted to rationalize suicide bombing in a conversation, Richard told him in no uncertain terms that suicide is forbidden in the Qur’an (4:29). An argument ensued, and then an Islamic scholar who was present told Hasan that Richard was right. Suicide cannot be defended under traditional Islamic law, regardless of efforts by some modern scholars to rationalize it. Hasan was unhappy to hear this point of view, and the men decided to change the topic.

I asked Richard whether he believed that Hasan was motivated by religious radicalism in his murderous actions. Richard, with great sadness, said that he believed this was true. He also believed that psychological factors from Hasan’s job as an army psychiatrist added to his pathos. Hasan had spent months listening to horror stories from returning soldiers about their experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan, and it had hardened his position on these wars. The news that he would be deployed overseas to Iraq, to a war that he rejected, may have pushed him over the edge.

But Richard does not excuse Hasan. As a Muslim, he finds Hasan’s religious perspectives to be fundamentally misguided. And as a soldier, he finds Hasan’s actions cowardly and evil. Hasan was not being sent into combat – he would have been working in a secure office in the Green Zone far away from the life and death dangers that Richard and his fellow combat veterans face every day. For Richard, a Muslim convert and patriotic soldier, Hasan’s actions were those of a sinner and a villain, one who will be held accountable by the U.S. justice system in this world, and by Allah in the Hereafter.

Listening to Richard’s perspective, I felt many emotions. Sorrow that good men and women like him will now have to defend their patriotism from those who want to use one madman’s actions to target an entire community. Pride that Muslim soldiers like Richard continue to do their duties with honor, despite the two worlds they are forced to straddle.

And hope. That despite the clouds of evil that seek to hide the truth, the message of Islam, a faith of love, wisdom and community, will always shine through.

Thank you Richard for your service. May Allah bless you and all your fellow soldiers who risk their lives daily so that people of all faiths can be free in the United States of America.


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Good read.

Yes...some of us on BGOL actually read. Fucking ignorant young assholes are talking over BGOL like nut cases are taking over Islam.
 
^^^ sounds like ole buddy is trying to fan the flames before it gets out of control...too late.
 
Lethal injection is way too easy that for premeditated fucking piece of shit.

Maybe tie him down and let a rabid dog eat his private parts off. :angry:

I hope they are feeding that piece of shit coward a straight diet of pork. :yes:
 
"Major Nidal Malik Hasan is a murderer and has brought great shame upon every American Muslim in the armed forces."

The first sentance was enough for me to stop reading this.....
 
Good read.

Yes...some of us on BGOL actually read. Fucking ignorant young assholes are talking over BGOL like nut cases are taking over Islam.

That has already happened.

Islam is a corrupt piece of shit "religion" that is being run at the very top by terrorists.

And since a lot of Muslims in Afghanistan are growing the poppy seeds that become opium that becomes cocaine...then Islam is also being run at the top by what may be the world's largest drug cartel.
 
Looks like we have some terrorist sympathizers posting in this thread, if they think this guy is not a shameful murderer. :yes:
 
Since the massacre of innocent has been a theme in American culture for a long time, i will bypass the muslim statement totally, since we are the creator of the word 'gone postal'
 
Looks like we have some terrorist sympathizers posting in this thread, if they think this guy is not a shameful murderer. :yes:

If you want to go that route what do you call white people who has been killin other races for thousand of years because Christianity has kill more people than any religion in history......:hmm:
 
Looks like we have some terrorist sympathizers posting in this thread, if they think this guy is not a shameful murderer. :yes:

First of all define "terrorist" and you'll easily realize it not only applies to any one sect or group of people.
Why wasn't timothy mcvey defined as a terrorist?

Slaves were subjected to terrorist klans men and slave owners, no one defined them as terrorist...

Isreal is killing innocent unarmed rock throwing people every fucking and not one person calls them terrorist, so I'm not buying that terrorist bullshit.
Its a term thats been spoonfed to NON-THINKING ignorant ass people

Actually, the term terrorist was replaced by the old cliche "communist" everyone that was an enemy was named a communist, now its a terrorist....

Secondly when someone can condemn "all american muslims" for the act of one person, its time for me to stop reading that garbage.
 
First of all define "terrorist" and you'll easily realize it not only applies to any one sect or group of people.
Why wasn't timothy mcvey defined as a terrorist?

Slaves were subjected to terrorist klans men and slave owners, no one defined them as terrorist...

Isreal is killing innocent unarmed rock throwing people every fucking and not one person calls them terrorist, so I'm not buying that terrorist bullshit.
Its a term thats been spoonfed to NON-THINKING ignorant ass people

Actually, the term terrorist was replaced by the old cliche "commujnist" everyonr that was an enemy was named a communist, now its a terrorist....

Secondly when someone can condemn "all american muslims" for the act of one person, its time for me to stop reading that garbage.

Most common Muslims are not bad, but the "religion" of Islam is being run by a leadership of terrorists and drug dealers.

The leadership of Islam has been thoroughly infiltrated by terrorists and a drug cartel.

If Muslims want any respect in the world, then they need to kick out all the terrorists and drug dealers, and clean up all the human rights abuses of women by Muslim men.
 
Most common Muslims are not bad, but the "religion" of Islam is being run by a leadership of terrorists and drug dealers.

The leadership of Islam has been thoroughly infiltrated by terrorists and a drug cartel.

If Muslims want any respect in the world, then they need to kick out all the terrorists and drug dealers, and clean up all the human rights abuses of women by Muslim men.

Again you can say the same fuckin thing about Christianity so whats your point :hmm:
 
Again you can say the same fuckin thing about Christianity so whats your point :hmm:

When was the last time you heard about Christians killing and blowing up a lot of other people every day?

Except to defend ourselves against a piece of shit 3rd world poverty religion that is run by terrorists and drug dealers. :rolleyes:

And what is the number one religious group for men abusing women? Islam.
 
That has already happened.

Islam is a corrupt piece of shit "religion" that is being run at the very top by terrorists.

And since a lot of Muslims in Afghanistan are growing the poppy seeds that become opium that becomes cocaine...then Islam is also being run at the top by what may be the world's largest drug cartel.

Ain't you supposed to be sucking one of your cousin's dick?
 
When was the last time you heard about Christians killing and blowing up a lot of other people every day?

Except to defend ourselves against a piece of shit 3rd world poverty religion that is run by terrorists and drug dealers. :rolleyes:


Can you say Afghanistan air raid?
 
Can you say Afghanistan air raid?

Defending ourselves against shithead Muslim terrorists who blow us up and even their own people. :angry:

Who are the butt fucks putting out all the roadside bombs?

And what religion are they doing it in the name of? Islam.

Fuck pork eating terrorists.
 
Good read homie, some real talk in there...

But whats more interesting are the few people that come in here with the negativity against another religion or group of people that they dont know or care to know about. Its like white people say "thats the enemy" and black folks especially, just listen to what ol' masa says and just go with the flow....I find it VERY ironic that blacks should ever be prejudice against another race other than whites when trying to call someone murders, terrorists, etc. White people have been murdering in a the name of Christianity FOR HUNDEREDS and THOUSANDS of years, and used Christianity to control, colonize, and oppress blacks...

Im not being biased of Christianity or any other religion im just saying whites use Christianity the same way the wayward "terrorists" use Islam to do their dirt, so we should all keep it 100, when we talkin about stuff like this...
 
When was the last time you heard about Christians killing and blowing up a lot of other people every day?

Except to defend ourselves against a piece of shit 3rd world poverty religion that is run by terrorists and drug dealers. :rolleyes:

And what is the number one religious group for men abusing women? Islam.

What you think these two wars about cuz we all know that Iraq had nothing to do with 911 and yet we had a president who believed it was God's duty to sent troops to that country....

Its funny how Christians like to look at the bad side of Islam but never want to talk about their current situation with the two wars and their past....This is the same religion that had the Crusades,the Salem Witch trials, and the Inquisition..Hell they even had a fuckin guy who blew up a fuckin federal building but you never saw Fox News saying we should screen every fuckin Christian like they are doing now with the whole Fort Hood situation..:hmm::hmm:
 
Good read homie, some real talk in there...

But whats more interesting are the few people that come in here with the negativity against another religion or group of people that they dont know or care to know about. Its like white people say "thats the enemy" and black folks especially, just listen to what ol' masa says and just go with the flow....I find it VERY ironic that blacks should ever be prejudice against another race other than whites when trying to call someone murders, terrorists, etc. White people have been murdering in a the name of Christianity FOR HUNDEREDS and THOUSANDS of years, and used Christianity to control, colonize, and oppress blacks...

Im not being biased of Christianity or any other religion im just saying whites use Christianity the same way the wayward "terrorists" use Islam to do their dirt, so we should all keep it 100, when we talkin about stuff like this...

:yes:
 
That has already happened.

Islam is a corrupt piece of shit "religion" that is being run at the very top by terrorists.

And since a lot of Muslims in Afghanistan are growing the poppy seeds that become opium that becomes cocaine...then Islam is also being run at the top by what may be the world's largest drug cartel.

ummmm, I believe the poppy plant extract is turned into Heroin, not cocaine.
 
That has already happened.

Islam is a corrupt piece of shit "religion" that is being run at the very top by terrorists.

And since a lot of Muslims in Afghanistan are growing the poppy seeds that become opium that becomes cocaine...then Islam is also being run at the top by what may be the world's largest drug cartel.

man why can't we ban rednecks from here? i hear enough of this bullshit on every media channel. send this piece of shit back to stormfront :hmm:
 
When was the last time you heard about Christians killing and blowing up a lot of other people every day?

Except to defend ourselves against a piece of shit 3rd world poverty religion that is run by terrorists and drug dealers. :rolleyes:

And what is the number one religious group for men abusing women? Islam.


whtbytx,

Religion is the buzzword of the day. How about the people overseas that have been defending themselves against us Imperialist Capitalist Americans? What if were Afghanistan or Iran that had 130 military bases situated all over the world? Run by people that think that locals have "against a piece of shit 3rd world" country, such as yourself? Defending ourselves? Who's on the defensive now? Us or them? Who's in whose country right now? I'm sure you've heard of economic hit man. We've been muscling in these third countries with missionaries, the military and corporations. We've in Afghan since 2001!! And no one even mentions Osama (our chosen scapegoat)any more.

Need to turn down that Glenn Beck and start thinking critically.
 
whtbytx,

Religion is the buzzword of the day. How about the people overseas that have been defending themselves against us Imperialist Capitalist Americans? What if were Afghanistan or Iran that had 130 military bases situated all over the world? Run by people that think that locals have "against a piece of shit 3rd world" country, such as yourself? Defending ourselves? Who's on the defensive now? Us or them? Who's in whose country right now? I'm sure you've heard of economic hit man. We've been muscling in these third countries with missionaries, the military and corporations. We've in Afghan since 2001!! And no one even mentions Osama (our chosen scapegoat)any more.

Need to turn down that Glenn Beck and start thinking critically.

its not worth it to argue with racist whites like whiteboytx. in their mind they are justified in invading nations and stealing their wealth. any nation that isn't white and christian doesn't count as human.
 
^^^ lest we forget that the shooter yall dudes are defending like his name was nat turner, was a muslim arab who's parents were from Jordan....

when was the last time those muslim arabs ever defended or sympathized for black folks - christian or muslim...
 
its not worth it to argue with racist whites like whiteboytx. in their mind they are justified in invading nations and stealing their wealth. any nation that isn't white and christian doesn't count as human.

yep
 
^^^ sounds like ole buddy is trying to fan the flames before it gets out of control...too late.
hey sir brainiac you don't fan flames in order to prevent fires from spreading
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I think dude is trying to throw Hasan under the bus to help his community. I think Hasan finally flipped out when the soldier in his apartment complex tore up his Allah is Love bumper sticker and keyed his car for being muslim. Hasan had been trying to get of the service since 9-11 but no way in hell they were gonna let a psychiatrist go. Dude needed counseling during his residency at Walter Reed so add that to his views and he should have been a big ass warning sign.
 
When was the last time you heard about Christians killing and blowing up a lot of other people every day?

Except to defend ourselves against a piece of shit 3rd world poverty religion that is run by terrorists and drug dealers. :rolleyes:

And what is the number one religious group for men abusing women? Islam.

The answer to that question is simple. Just have a conversation with someone from the middle east who lives in one of the many areas the U.S. bombs on a regular basis....killing woman and children, calling them collateral damage.

The U.S. is not defending itself, we are the aggressor, and if we are truly at war, soldiers are not "innocent casualties". Not justifying his actions, but just my 2 cents.
 
That has already happened.

Islam is a corrupt piece of shit "religion" that is being run at the very top by terrorists.

And since a lot of Muslims in Afghanistan are growing the poppy seeds that become opium that becomes cocaine...then Islam is also being run at the top by what may be the world's largest drug cartel.

Check your facts you can't get cocaine from poppy seeds.
 
That has already happened.

Islam is a corrupt piece of shit "religion" that is being run at the very top by terrorists.

And since a lot of Muslims in Afghanistan are growing the poppy seeds that become opium that becomes cocaine...then Islam is also being run at the top by what may be the world's largest drug cartel.

Check your facts you can't get cocaine from opium poppy seeds.
 
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