14 African Countries Forced by France to Pay Colonial Tax For the Benefits of Slavery

[geechiedan]

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that's a horrible analogy geech

but if i play along, by your logic i would either then hate all snakes or hate all male siblings.

you said that it was africans selling out africans left and right enablinc cacs to do this. i'm saying it would have been done regardless of who they got to do it.

do you think that black turncoats are the reason the entire globe suffers from white supremacy? that if no black man ever sold the rest of us out, that we'd be okay?

i'm not writing anyone passes, just trying to get you to think past level one.

by the logic of the analogy you should avoid all snakes especially the pretty that have proven to be poisonous ones and whoop any siblings ass that fucks with snakes as snakes are potentially dangerous..especially the pretty ones that have proven to be poisonous. Whats so hard about that???

I think turncoats in general are the reason for white supremacy its the main way their able to gain and keep a foothold in any country. Any country with a puppet regime shows that.

this dimwit looks like an asshole in that crown and you know those french cacs laughed at him probably to his face when they saw him wearing it. Considering how he got it...what it cost..that shit looks supremely stupid

 

[water]

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I don't understand your point most of these leaders were educated in France or selected by France. They were trained by French secret service. Yes they are sellouts but the ones who weren't France killed. Have you heard of Thomas Sankara ? Cacs are always behind it even if a black face is doing the deed.

Engraving Print of Scene in Surinam: Slave Punishment by D.K. Bonatti

"To Rebellious Slaves" (1832)

 

[Tha Great Muta]

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I have to ask Negros who go back to the "Africans sold other Africans" argument. The slave trade was so large that entire economic systems for the elite were established and pretty much made America into a juggernaut. How many Africans, if any, have had REAL generational wealth that was generated from the slave trade that was passed down? I think I already know the answer but hell I could be wrong.

 

[kefta]

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I have to ask Negros who go back to the "Africans sold other Africans" argument. The slave trade was so large that entire economic systems for the elite were established and pretty much made America into a juggernaut. How many Africans, if any, have had REAL generational wealth that was generated from the slave trade that was passed down? I think I already know the answer but hell I could be wrong.

Good question.

Please also ask them to identify the Africans that sold which Africans into slavery. Like I said before, groups such as the Batwa, Zulu, Baganda, San, etc, are Africans but there is no historical record or evidence that they too sold their African people into slavery. Lets stop with all this generalization of A sold AA into slavery. Which Africans are we talking about?

To my understanding, the racist man and racist woman came with ships and guns. That is way some African people sold some African people into slavery. The problem was and is still the racist man and racist woman.

 

[geechiedan]

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I have to ask Negros who go back to the "Africans sold other Africans" argument. The slave trade was so large that entire economic systems for the elite were established and pretty much made America into a juggernaut. How many Africans, if any, have had REAL generational wealth that was generated from the slave trade that was passed down? I think I already know the answer but hell I could be wrong.

Good question.

Please also ask them to identify the Africans that sold which Africans into slavery. Like I said before, groups such as the Batwa, Zulu, Baganda, San, etc, are Africans but there is no historical record or evidence that they too sold their African people into slavery. Lets stop with all this generalization of A sold AA into slavery. Which Africans are we talking about?

To my understanding, the racist man and racist woman came with ships and guns. That is way some African people sold some African people into slavery. The problem was and is still the racist man and racist woman.

this isn't an africans sold africans in slavery issue..I understand that slavery in African countries isn't or wasnt like chattel slavery cacs practiced.

this is an africans sold OUT their country and culture to whites for personal material gain issue.

 

[exiledking]

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Good question.



Please also ask them to identify the Africans that sold which Africans into slavery. Like I said before, groups such as the Batwa, Zulu, Baganda, San, etc, are Africans but there is no historical record or evidence that they too sold their African people into slavery. Lets stop with all this generalization of A sold AA into slavery. Which Africans are we talking about?



.

Dahomey, Oyo, Asante, Kongo- just to name a few kingdoms. You always ignore those.

And as far as the Zulu, no record them sold any slaves, but they sure did dominate lots of others and sent the whole region scurrying.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

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this isn't an africans sold africans in slavery issue..I understand that slavery in African countries isn't or wasnt like chattel slavery cacs practiced.

this is an africans sold OUT their country and culture to whites for personal material gain issue.

So what's your overall point? There are ALWAYS individuals that are looking to sellout their own for the come up, that transcends "race" and is a human flaw. In the end they still got the short end of the stick since no one has brung up any Africans/African nations that inherited their wealth exclusively through the slave trade. I'm not trying to be a smart ass I really want to know what your point is in bringing this up.

Dahomey, Oyo, Asante, Kongo- just to name a few kingdoms. You always ignore those.

And as far as the Zulu, no record them sold any slaves, but they sure did dominate lots of others and sent the whole region scurrying.

This ties into my question of what became of these kingdoms, economically what happened to them? I really need some legit literature on this subject.

 

[Entrepronegro]

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Props OP for keeping my head clear fuck France. I'm bout to watch some football

 

[Entrepronegro]

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Black people on social media putting up French flags.

They just following the fad

 

[kefta]

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Dahomey, Oyo, Asante, Kongo- just to name a few kingdoms. You always ignore those.

And as far as the Zulu, no record them sold any slaves, but they sure did dominate lots of others and sent the whole region scurrying.

I did not ignore any or those. I said statements such as "A sold AA into slavery" are false because they do not identify what Africans. They group all A as slave trades. Again, lets be specific and put things into context.

And in regard to those you mentioned, they would not have done what they did if the racist man and racist woman did not show up with guns. The racist man and racist woman created the context for the advancement of the transatlantic slave trade.

 

[kefta]

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this isn't an africans sold africans in slavery issue..I understand that slavery in African countries isn't or wasnt like chattel slavery cacs practiced.

this is an africans sold OUT their country and culture to whites for personal material gain issue.

They had no option. Just like Mr. Obama has no option. White people will always find a non-white person or persons to do their bidding. Solution is, target and blame the racist man and racist woman. They are the ones with the power. Pick on them and leave the victims of racism/white supremacy out of this.

 

[water]

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They had no option. Just like Mr. Obama has no option. White people will always find a non-white person or persons to do their bidding. Solution is, target and blame the racist man and racist woman. They are the ones with the power. Pick on them and leave the victims of racism/white supremacy out of this.

They are pretending to not see the pics I posted above to show the context you speak of.


It was that or death

 

[geechiedan]

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They are pretending to not see the pics I posted above to show the context you speak of.


It was that or death

which would YOU choose??

 

[water]

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which would YOU choose??

If i don't have a family? death

if i have a family? no death


How about you?

 

[geechiedan]

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If i don't have a family? death

if i have a family? no death


How about you?

I don't wanna die like everyone else..but I'm not selling out my people either. Thats what these people did.

Etienne Gnassingbe

On January 13, 1963, three days after he started printing his country own currency, a squad of illiterate soldiers backed by France killed the first elected president of newly independent Africa. Olympio was killed by an ex French Foreign Legionnaire army sergeant called Etienne Gnassingbe who supposedly received a bounty of $612 from the local French embassy for the hit man job.

Olympio’s dream was to build an independent and self-sufficient and self-reliant country. But the French didn’t like the idea.

Moussa Traoré

On June 30, 1962, Modiba Keita , the first president of the Republic of Mali, decided to withdraw from the french colonial currency FCFA which was imposed on 12 newly independent African countries. For the Malian president, who was leaning more to a socialist economy, it was clear that colonisation continuation pact with France was a trap, a burden for the country development.

On November 19, 1968, like, Olympio, Keita will be the victim of a coup carried out by another ex French Foreign legionnaire, the Lieutenant Moussa Traoré.

Jean-Bédel Bokassa

– On January 1st, 1966, Jean-Bédel Bokassa, an ex french foreign legionnaire, carried a coup against David Dacko, the first President of the Central African Republic.

Aboubacar Sangoulé Lamizana

– On January 3, 1966, Maurice Yaméogo, the first President of the Republic of Upper Volta, now called Burkina Faso, was victim of a coup carried by Aboubacar Sangoulé Lamizana, an ex French legionnaire who fought with french troops in Indonesia and Algeria against these countries independence.

Mathieu Kérékou

– on 26 October 1972, Mathieu Kérékou who was a security guard to President Hubert Maga, the first President of the Republic of Benin, carried a coup against the president, after he attended French military schools from 1968 to 1970.

 

[exiledking]

14 African Countries Forced by France to Pay Colonial Tax For the Benefits of...

I did not ignore any or those. I said statements such as "A sold AA into slavery" are false because they do not identify what Africans. They group all A as slave trades. Again, lets be specific and put things into context.

And in regard to those you mentioned, they would not have done what they did if the racist man and racist woman did not show up with guns. The racist man and racist woman created the context for the advancement of the transatlantic slave trade.

You do ignore it. When you ask ignorant questions like "which Africans?" As if you need me to name them every time and counting on the person you ask not to know, it's disingenuous. You're attempting to revise.

We know that they didn't consider themselves African THEN so why do you now?

And if you don't, then you can clearly see that no lesson was learned from that fatal mistake.

And no, the racist white PORTUGUESE (they didn't see themselves as one European with the Spanish, English, Dutch or whoever else)
Showed up to trade gold directly with the west African source instead of getting it through the middleman Moors. They took some for the work that needed to be done in the new world from the Congolese and from Guinea - then it became a full time demand. No one was forced to do it from jump. They even sent their children to schools in Europe and took on Christianity willingly in Kongo. Made it the state religion. Lookup Joao I if ya care.

The English literally had to create a sea force to end the trade, the upper classes of our ancestors we are all of mixed descent from, were in full scale civil wars.

Are we one African now? I say yes. I'd sure like to be. Should we have known that back then? I wish we did.

And for those who keep saying "Africans didn't engage in chattel slavery" I notice you don't say "which Africans?" Then. All of sudden then ALL slavery on the continent was the same. Well it wasn't. Some didn't have chattel slavery, some did. Either way it was a takeover of one culture by another and a replacement many times of language, customs, removal from home land, hegemony, and forced assimilation. And for some it was being offered as sacrifice. If I can bound you up, brand you, walk you to a castle, trade you to a European for something and walk away, that's not good.

 

[H.E.A.T.]

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props on the knowledge drop

 

[water]

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I don't wanna die like everyone else..but I'm not selling out my people either. Thats what these people did.
.

Stop going from thread to thread posting the same shit




You ask what would I do.

Tell me what would YOU do

 

[water]

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props on the knowledge drop

respect

 

[DM5]

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Good drop!

 

[water]

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Good drop!

 

[Count23]

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You do ignore it. When you ask ignorant questions like "which Africans?" As if you need me to name them every time and counting on the person you ask not to know, it's disingenuous. You're attempting to revise.

We know that they didn't consider themselves African THEN so why do you now?

And if you don't, then you can clearly see that no lesson was learned from that fatal mistake.

And no, the racist white PORTUGUESE (they didn't see themselves as one European with the Spanish, English, Dutch or whoever else)
Showed up to trade gold directly with the west African source instead of getting it through the middleman Moors. They took some for the work that needed to be done in the new world from the Congolese and from Guinea - then it became a full time demand. No one was forced to do it from jump. They even sent their children to schools in Europe and took on Christianity willingly in Kongo. Made it the state religion. Lookup Joao I if ya care.

The English literally had to create a sea force to end the trade, the upper classes of our ancestors we are all of mixed descent from, were in full scale civil wars.

Are we one African now? I say yes. I'd sure like to be. Should we have known that back then? I wish we did.

And for those who keep saying "Africans didn't engage in chattel slavery" I notice you don't say "which Africans?" Then. All of sudden then ALL slavery on the continent was the same. Well it wasn't. Some didn't have chattel slavery, some did. Either way it was a takeover of one culture by another and a replacement many times of language, customs, removal from home land, hegemony, and forced assimilation. And for some it was being offered as sacrifice. If I can bound you up, brand you, walk you to a castle, trade you to a European for something and walk away, that's not good.

uh oh, nuance. bgol's greatest enemy.

 

[kefta]

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You do ignore it. When you ask ignorant questions like "which Africans?" As if you need me to name them every time and counting on the person you ask not to know, it's disingenuous. You're attempting to revise.

We know that they didn't consider themselves African THEN so why do you now?

And if you don't, then you can clearly see that no lesson was learned from that fatal mistake.

And no, the racist white PORTUGUESE (they didn't see themselves as one European with the Spanish, English, Dutch or whoever else)
Showed up to trade gold directly with the west African source instead of getting it through the middleman Moors. They took some for the work that needed to be done in the new world from the Congolese and from Guinea - then it became a full time demand. No one was forced to do it from jump. They even sent their children to schools in Europe and took on Christianity willingly in Kongo. Made it the state religion. Lookup Joao I if ya care.

The English literally had to create a sea force to end the trade, the upper classes of our ancestors we are all of mixed descent from, were in full scale civil wars.

Are we one African now? I say yes. I'd sure like to be. Should we have known that back then? I wish we did.

And for those who keep saying "Africans didn't engage in chattel slavery" I notice you don't say "which Africans?" Then. All of sudden then ALL slavery on the continent was the same. Well it wasn't. Some didn't have chattel slavery, some did. Either way it was a takeover of one culture by another and a replacement many times of language, customs, removal from home land, hegemony, and forced assimilation. And for some it was being offered as sacrifice. If I can bound you up, brand you, walk you to a castle, trade you to a European for something and walk away, that's not good.

The question is a valid question and has nothing to do with ignoring what black people did when they encountered the racist man and racist woman. The question was not posed to you but to the BGOL member that posted the false statement that "AA sold A into slavery".

Ok, if they did not consider themselves African then, then maybe they considered themselves black. Ok. So not all black people sold other black people into slavery. And those that did, did it because they were powerless.

 

[geechiedan]

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Stop going from thread to thread posting the same shit




You ask what would I do.

Tell me what would YOU do

I don't wanna die like everyone else..but I'm not selling out my people either. Thats what these people did.

Etienne Gnassingbe

On January 13, 1963, three days after he started printing his country own currency, a squad of illiterate soldiers backed by France killed the first elected president of newly independent Africa. Olympio was killed by an ex French Foreign Legionnaire army sergeant called Etienne Gnassingbe who supposedly received a bounty of $612 from the local French embassy for the hit man job.

Olympio’s dream was to build an independent and self-sufficient and self-reliant country. But the French didn’t like the idea.

Moussa Traoré

On June 30, 1962, Modiba Keita , the first president of the Republic of Mali, decided to withdraw from the french colonial currency FCFA which was imposed on 12 newly independent African countries. For the Malian president, who was leaning more to a socialist economy, it was clear that colonisation continuation pact with France was a trap, a burden for the country development.

On November 19, 1968, like, Olympio, Keita will be the victim of a coup carried out by another ex French Foreign legionnaire, the Lieutenant Moussa Traoré.

Jean-Bédel Bokassa

– On January 1st, 1966, Jean-Bédel Bokassa, an ex french foreign legionnaire, carried a coup against David Dacko, the first President of the Central African Republic.

Aboubacar Sangoulé Lamizana

– On January 3, 1966, Maurice Yaméogo, the first President of the Republic of Upper Volta, now called Burkina Faso, was victim of a coup carried by Aboubacar Sangoulé Lamizana, an ex French legionnaire who fought with french troops in Indonesia and Algeria against these countries independence.

Mathieu Kérékou

– on 26 October 1972, Mathieu Kérékou who was a security guard to President Hubert Maga, the first President of the Republic of Benin, carried a coup against the president, after he attended French military schools from 1968 to 1970.

....

 

[exiledking]

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The question is a valid question and has nothing to do with ignoring what black people did when they encountered the racist man and racist woman. The question was not posed to you but to the BGOL member that posted the false statement that "AA sold A into slavery".



Ok, if they did consider themselves African then, then maybe they considered themselves black. Ok. So not all black people sold other black people into slavery. And those that did, did it because they were powerless.

Show me who was powerless in the 15th and 16th century and to what?

You don't see European "protectorates" in Africa until the 1700s. Before that you see trade, straight up. You're grossly misinformed on the subject and you purposely remain that way so you can keep asserting the role of the poor hapless African when and wherever it suits you.

First you say NO ONE did, and now in your last sentence you slide in a "and those that did were helpless" lol.

But I like this thread for other reasons so I'll try to leave our old debate out of this.


The OP has put some interesting info about the French imperial ambitions and actions in here. Props

 

[geechiedan]

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Show me who was powerless in the 15th and 16th century and to what?

You don't see European "protectorates" in Africa until the 1700s. Before that you see trade, straight up. You're grossly misinformed on the subject and you purposely remain that way so you can keep asserting the role of the poor hapless African when and wherever it suits you.

First you say NO ONE did, and now in your last sentence you slide in a "and those that did were helpless" lol.

But I like this thread for other reasons so I'll try to leave our old debate out of this.


The OP has put some interesting info about the French imperial ambitions and actions in here. Props

exposed!

 

[kefta]

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Show me who was powerless in the 15th and 16th century and to what?

You don't see European "protectorates" in Africa until the 1700s. Before that you see trade, straight up. You're grossly misinformed on the subject and you purposely remain that way so you can keep asserting the role of the poor hapless African when and wherever it suits you.

First you say NO ONE did, and now in your last sentence you slide in a "and those that did were helpless" lol.

But I like this thread for other reasons so I'll try to leave our old debate out of this.


The OP has put some interesting info about the French imperial ambitions and actions in here. Props

Show you? The evidence is the condition that were are in as black people in 2015. That's evidence enough. If we thought we were that powerful, then we would not be subject to the system of racism/white supremacy in 2015. Get it? Straight logic.

I say No one did because it is still a debate among confused black people. They choose to focus on the racist/white supremacist narrative. Now, if they did, then they did it because they were powerless. Get it? If we were as powerful as we thought we were, we would not be in the position that we are in now.

 

[kefta]

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exposed!

No! The man is just hurting. Trying to be objective while indirectly spreading a racist/white supremacist narative!

 

[exiledking]

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No! The man is just hurting. Trying to be objective while indirectly spreading a racist/white supremacist narative!

You're the ones hurting. Hurting to the point that instead of facing history to know what to correct you wanna ignore it while making the same mistakes.

You really do think Black people are inferior, clueless , and timid.

The only points of greatness in history you can point to are people from 2000-5000 years ago according to your knowledge no one else had any empires, military might, commercial sense, scientific minds, or ambition.

Well we did. And we do. But the fact that you exist reminds me that NOT ALL of us do, so I guess I gotta thank you for keeping me aware.

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

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Fact or not.....at the end of the day Black people need to to stop sympathizing for devilish people; Not those in France, per se, but devilish people in general.

 

[kefta]

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You're the ones hurting. Hurting to the point that instead of facing history to know what to correct you wanna ignore it while making the same mistakes.

You really do think Black people are inferior, clueless , and timid.

The only points of greatness in history you can point to are people from 2000-5000 years ago according to your knowledge no one else had any empires, military might, commercial sense, scientific minds, or ambition.

Well we did. And we do. But the fact that you exist reminds me that NOT ALL of us do, so I guess I gotta thank you for keeping me aware.

Again False statement. I have never said the black people are inferior. Quote me.

 

[kefta]

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Fact or not.....at the end of the day Black people need to to stop sympathizing for devilish people; Not those in France, per se, but devilish people in general.

pEACe!

 

[exiledking]

14 African Countries Forced by France to Pay Colonial Tax For the Benefits of...

Again False statement. I have never said the black people are inferior. Quote me.

Actually it used to be in my sig lol. You saying some shit about it. I can't see it from my phone. Might still be in there

But regardless, I based that on what I've read from you continually.

 

[kefta]

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Actually it used to be in my sig lol. You saying some shit about it. I can't see it from my phone. Might still be in there

But regardless, I based that on what I've read from you continually.

Stop lying.

Again the statement you made in regard to my view on black people is false. I have never said the black people are inferior. I have continually said that we are powerless but not inferior. If you believe otherwise, please Quote me.

 

[exiledking]

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Stop lying.



Again the statement you made in regard to my view on black people is false. I have never said the black people are inferior. I have continually said that we are powerless but not inferior. If you believe otherwise, please Quote me.

Lol you actually think that calling us powerless is ... Wow.