Dictator Dozen — Africa's Worst Despots

Joe Money

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When Foreign Policy Magazine released its list of the world's most awful tyrants, the collection featured the usual suspects like Robert Mugabe and Muammar al-Gaddafi. However, some of Africa's greatest atrocities have come at the hands of lesser-known dictators, so here are 12 guys (plus one) that you never want to meet.

Of the twenty-three autocrats covered in the magazine's "Worst of the Worst" article, thirteen (a baker's dozen!) are from African nations. Although this group of bad apples is not entirely reflective of the continent's leadership, their moral ambiguity and reprehensible policies are part of what has become an all too common trend in Africa's history. That said, separating fact from fallacy can often be difficult with subjects like this. So as always it's best to read up, check out some independent research and get the knowledge yourself.

From Foreign Policy Magazine:



2. Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe

A liberation "hero" in the struggle for independence who has since transformed himself into a murderous despot, Mugabe has arrested and tortured the opposition, squeezed his economy into astounding negative growth and billion-percent inflation, and funneled off a juicy cut for himself using currency manipulation and offshore accounts.

Years in power: 30



4. Omar Hassan al-Bashir of Sudan

A megalomaniac zealot who has quashed all opposition, Bashir is responsible for the deaths of millions of Sudanese and has been indicted by the International Criminal Court for war crimes. Bashir's Arab militias, the janjaweed, may have halted their massacres in Darfur, but they continue to traffic black Sudanese as slaves (Bashir himself has been accused of having several at one point).

Years in power: 21



6. Isaias Afwerki of Eritrea

A crocodile liberator, Afwerki has turned his country into a national prison in which independent media are shut down, elections are categorically rejected, indefinite military service is mandatory and the government would rather support Somali militants than its own people.

Years in power: 17



9. Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia

Worse than the former Marxist dictator he ousted nearly two decades ago, Zenawi has clamped down on the opposition, stifled all dissent and rigged elections. Like a true Marxist revolutionary, Zenawi has stashed millions in foreign banks and acquired mansions in Maryland and London in his wife's name, according to the opposition - even as his barbaric regime collects a whopping $1 billion in foreign aid each year.

Years in power: 19



11. Muammar al-Qaddafi of Libya

An eccentric egoist infamous for his indecipherable flamboyant speeches and equally erratic politics, Qaddafi runs a police state based on his version of Mao's Red Book - the Green Book - which includes a solution to "the Problem of Democracy." Repressive at home, Qaddafi masquerades as Africa's king of kings abroad (the African Union had to politely insist that he step down as its rotating head).

Years in power: 41



13. Idriss Déby of Chad

Having led a rebel insurgency against a former dictator, Déby today faces a similar challenge - from one of his own former cabinet officials, among others. To repel would-be coup leaders, Déby has drained social spending accounts to equip the military, co-opted opposition-leader foes and is now building a moat around the capital, N'Djamena.

Years in power: 20



14. Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo of Equatorial Guinea

Obiang and his family literally own the economy, having reportedly amassed a fortune exceeding $600 million while the country's people remain in desperate poverty. Equatorial Guinea's extraordinary oil wealth puts its GDP per capita on par with many European states - if only it were evenly shared. Instead, revenues remain a "state secret."

Years in power: 31



15. Hosni Mubarak of Egypt

A senile and paranoid autocrat whose sole preoccupation is self-perpetuation in office, Mubarak is suspicious of even his own shadow. He keeps a 30-year-old emergency law in place to squelch any opposition activity and has groomed his son, Gamal, to succeed him. (No wonder only 23 percent of Egyptians bothered to vote in the 2005 presidential election.)

Years in power: 29



16. Yahya Jammeh of Gambia

This eccentric militarist has vowed to rule for 40 years and claims to have discovered the cure for HIV/AIDS. (Jammeh also claims he has mystic powers and will turn Gambia into an oil-producing country, no luck yet.) A narcissist at heart, the dictator insists on being addressed as His Excellency Sheikh Professor Alhaji Dr. Yahya Abdul-Azziz Jemus Junkung Jammeh.

Years in power: 16



18. Blaise Compaoré of Burkina Faso

A tin-pot despot with no vision and no agenda, save self-perpetuation in power by liquidating opponents and stifling dissent, Compaoré has lived up to the low standards of his own rise to power, where he murdered his predecessor Thomas Sankara in a 1987 coup.

Years in power: 23



19. Yoweri Museveni of Uganda

After leading a rebel insurgency that took over Uganda in 1986, Museveni declared: "No African head of state should be in power for more than 10 years." But 24 years later, he is still here, winning one "coconut election" after another in which other political parties are technically legal but a political rally of more than a handful of people is not.

Years in power: 24



20. Paul Kagame of Rwanda

A liberator who saved the Tutsis from complete extermination in 1994, Kagame now practices the same ethnic apartheid he sought to end. His Rwandan Patriotic Front dominates all levers of power: the security forces, the civil service, the judiciary, banks, universities, and state-owned corporations. Those who challenge the president are accused of being a hatemonger or divisionist and arrested.

Years in power: 10



23. Paul Biya of Cameroon

A suave bandit who has reportedly racked up a personal fortune of more than $200 million and the mansions to go with it, Biya has co-opted the opposition into complete submission. Not that he's worried about elections; he has rigged the term limit laws twice to make sure the party doesn't end anytime soon.

Years in power: 28

http://www.thebvx.com/2010/07/16/dictator-dozen-africas-worst-despots/
 
Japan no natural resources 2 largest economy in the world

Sub-Saharan Africa filled with natural resources
still the great majority of the population live in poverty..

shit don't make sense man
it definitely starts with the fucked up leadership of most of these Sub-Saharan African countries

incompetent, evil, greedy leaders who don't give a fuck about there people.

all they care about is stealing the money and putting it in swiss bank accounts..:smh:
 
Japan no natural resources 2 largest economy in the world

......

shit don't make sense man
......

incompetent, evil, greedy leaders who don't give a fuck about there people.

all they care about is stealing the money and putting it in swiss bank accounts..:smh:


Pretty much fucked up all the way. If you get a true leader who wants to help build the country usually the super powers have him killed or ousted, if that doesnt work they stop doing business with the country. Mainly traitors running the countries.
 
Who are white people to judge us, and why do you sit there and regurgitate their nonsense? As hated as I am on this forum, how would feel if I started judging Black Americans????
 
Japan no natural resources 2 largest economy in the world

Sub-Saharan Africa filled with natural resources
still the great majority of the population live in poverty..

shit don't make sense man
it definitely starts with the fucked up leadership of most of these Sub-Saharan African countries

incompetent, evil, greedy leaders who don't give a fuck about there people.

all they care about is stealing the money and putting it in swiss bank accounts..:smh:


Instead of complaining and accusing, you might want to ask us why? Not that it matters to you though..
 
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it is senseless for those who dont understand history.

I always laugh at comments like these.

These comments observe the "end point" which is the present while completely disregarding the past that created it.

Africa had to deal with the slave trade, the scramble for Africa (which drew lines on the land that disregarded the history of the people who lived on the land and allowed colonization and exploitation of natural resources by foreign powers), and had conspirators who manipulated ethnic groups to act against other ethnic groups.

Most African countries just received their independence from Euros in the last 60 years.


Criticising and hating Africa makes people feel better about themselves. All the good points you raised above may end up being irrelevant to him.
 
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it is senseless for those who dont understand history.

I always laugh at comments like these.

These comments observe the "end point" which is the present while completely disregarding the past that created.

Africa had to deal with the slave trade, the scramble for Africa (which drew lines on the land that disregarded the history of the people who lived on the land and allowed colonization), and had conspirators who manipulated ethnic groups to act against other ethnic groups.

Most African countries just received their independence from Euros in the last 60 years.

fuck outta here nigga
always making excusing

when you kats going to stop blaming the white man for all of Africa's problems

we all know about the berlin conference of 1884
time to move on.

look at what's happening in the Niger delta right now

all the oil revenue and the lives of the people haven't been improved one bit

is that the white man's fault too.

it's the white man's fault South Africa just spent 4 billion on stadiums to play soccer when most of the people still live in poverty

come on man
stop with the bullshit

Black Africa's number one problem is

incompetent, evil, greedy leadership..:smh:
 
fuck outta here nigga
always making excusing

when you kats going to stop blaming the white man for all of Africa's problems

we all know about the berlin conference of 1884
time to move on.

look at what's happening in the Niger delta right now

all the oil revenue and the lives of the people haven't been improved one bit

is that the white man's fault too.

it's the white man's fault South Africa just spent 4 billion on stadiums to play soccer when most of the people still live in poverty

come on man
stop with the bullshit

Black Africa's number one problem is

incompetent, evil, greedy leadership..:smh:

:confused: "black Africa" :lol:
 
Racism is white supremacy and white supremacy is racism. That's the major, dominant oppressive system of the UNIVERSE. And yeah, cats are acting like a so called "dictator" is just one individual that is responsble for the so called "problems" on the so called African continent. oNe!!!
 
fuck outta here nigga
always making excusing

when you kats going to stop blaming the white man for all of Africa's problems

we all know about the berlin conference of 1884
time to move on.

look at what's happening in the Niger delta right now

all the oil revenue and the lives of the people haven't been improved one bit

is that the white man's fault too.

it's the white man's fault South Africa just spent 4 billion on stadiums to play soccer when most of the people still live in poverty

come on man
stop with the bullshit

Black Africa's number one problem is

incompetent, evil, greedy leadership..:smh:

Why do we owe you an explanation?
 
You still dont "get it"

and

There is no "nigga" here, guy

:smh:

Your thinking is humorous from the begin because you started your rant by comparing Japan (country) to Africa (continent).

Then your comparison disregards the very divergent histories of the two places in regards to trade and sovereign establishment.

A place cant just "up and change" due to leadership.

Its obvious that you dont understand how powerful history's hand is in shaping the present.

Think what you want, man.......

ya'll kats always making excuses for Sub-Saharan Africa

All the countries of Sub Saharan Africa are filled with natural resources

and still yet
because of the incompetent, evil, greedy leadership the people still suffering..

come on man
it's time to call a spade a spade
 
Don't worry about us...Go your way, we are going ours. We do not spend time judging you, do not judge us.
 
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Dude is white or is under the spell of white people...

lol @ "black" Africa

Its like saying wet water.

I don't consider moroccans black
I don't consider Egyptians black
I don't consider the people of nothern Africa above the the Sahra desert black.
those people are more Mediterranean/arab than black

I don't even consider the peoples of east Africa black they are more Arab than black

When I say "black"
I mean people from the West/Central/Southern regions of the AFrican Continent

Those are the people that got transported to the "new world"(the Americas and the Caribbean)

"black Africans"
 
ya'll kats always making excuses for Sub-Saharan Africa

All the countries of Sub Saharan Africa are filled with natural resources

and still yet
because of the incompetent, evil, greedy leadership the people still suffering..

come on man
it's time to call a spade a spade

Now, its "Sub Saharan Africa" :confused: What happened to "black Africa"? :smh: :lol: Please lets be clear here and lets address each other in a respective manner and not refer to each other as "Niggas" because just like "black Africa", you Sir don't even have a clear and precise definition of the term "Nigga". :smh: And by the way Sir, one can be competent and at the same time be also evil and greedy . Which of these qualities best suits "African leadership"? Would it be okay if it was competent, evil and greedy instead of incompetent, evil and greedy? :confused: Which one is which? Mr. George W. Bush can be defined as being "competent", evil and greedy. Did he qualify as a good leader? Sir, talk to me......
 
I don't consider moroccans black
I don't consider Egyptians black
I don't consider the people of nothern Africa above the the Sahra desert black.
those people are more Mediterranean/arab than black

I don't even consider the peoples of east Africa black they are more Arab than black

When I say "black"
I mean people from the West/Central/Southern regions of the AFrican Continent

Those are the people that got transported to the "new world"(the Americas and the Caribbean)

"black Africans"

:confused: :lol: :roflmao: so East Africa is not part of the Southern region of Africa.....Sir, are you white? Moroccans are not black :confused: :lol: Are there people that are classified as Arabs and at the same time are also classified as black? Sir, talk to me.....
 
:confused: :lol: :roflmao: so East Africa is not part of the Southern region of Africa.....Sir, are you white? Moroccans are not black :confused: :lol: Are there people that are classified as Arabs and at the same time are also classified as black? Sir, talk to me.....

you are a clown

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&...UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1600&bih=1009

click the link
it's a picture search of the term "moroccan man"

those people are not "black" those people are Mediterranean

click the link

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&h...an+man&aq=f&aqi=g-sx1g-msx1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

google picture search "egyptian man"

once again most of the people look arab not black like a person from west africa(althought eygpt as a large dark skin population
still there features are more arab looking)

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&h...&q=algerian+man&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

click the link

google picture search "Algerian man"

people from north Africa are not black
they more Mediterranean than black

hate to break it to you son.
 
you are a clown

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&...UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1600&bih=1009

click the link
it's a picture search of the term "moroccan man"

those people are not "black" those people are Mediterranean

click the link

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&h...an+man&aq=f&aqi=g-sx1g-msx1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

google picture search "egyptian man"

once again most of the people look arab not black like a person from west africa(althought eygpt as a large dark skin population
still there features are more arab looking)

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&h...&q=algerian+man&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

click the link

google picture search "Algerian man"

people from north Africa are not black
they more Mediterranean than black

hate to break it to you son.



You are the dumbest Jamaican ever!!!!


:smh::smh::smh:


Your categories are based on looks?


Look here fassy, put down babylon wine and go read some history


:cool:
 
you are a clown

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&...UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1600&bih=1009

click the link
it's a picture search of the term "moroccan man"

those people are not "black" those people are Mediterranean

click the link

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&h...an+man&aq=f&aqi=g-sx1g-msx1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

google picture search "egyptian man"

once again most of the people look arab not black like a person from west africa(althought eygpt as a large dark skin population
still there features are more arab looking)

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&h...&q=algerian+man&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

click the link

google picture search "Algerian man"

people from north Africa are not black
they more Mediterranean than black

hate to break it to you son.

:lol: Son! :lol: I can see that you are good with the internet, "GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND". Please answer my question, can one be classified as an "Arab" and also as "black"...Can a black person be an "Arab" and can a white person be an "Arab". simple yes or no questions. Now, you don't need to Google that Sir, do you? Just look around you and work with the evidence. I am waiting...Sir, talk to me...
 
You are the dumbest Jamaican ever!!!!


:smh::smh::smh:


Your categories are based on looks?


Look here fassy, put down babylon wine and go read some history


:cool:

Kaya, this member is talking about "black africa", Arabs, Mediterraneans and East Africans not being part of "black Africa".:confused: yes, it must be that babylon wine :lol:
 
You are the dumbest Jamaican ever!!!!


:smh::smh::smh:


Your categories are based on looks?


Look here fassy, put down babylon wine and go read some history


:cool:

dude I've read the history
that's why I have such strong opinions on the subject

do you consider people from northern Africa "black"
do you think a man from Algeria considers himself being of the same ethnic group as a man from Angola..

come on man

when I say "black" I mean slaves that were brought to the Americas and the caribbean

ethnically there is no difference between a Jamaican and a African American
a black dominican or black person born in Brazil

all our ancestors came in the same slave ships from west/central/southern region of Africa

there weren't too many slaves from Northern Africa or East Africa ethiopia, somalia..etc.
 
Dudes catching feelings over the phrase "black africa" now?:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Same people were bitching when Gaddafi took over the African Union because he wasnt black, but now wants his country to be considered black africa:roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2:

Muammar-Gaddafi-3.jpg
 
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Your thought process is similar to how foreign European anthropologists categorized humans on non-European land into shallow shapes, structures, and colors.

Stop before you cats tear you to pieces....

"Race" is not place-based.

Greedy white people drew those lines defining those countries....not sex, love, historical regional interaction, or culture.

You are attempting to scientifically divide peoples.

That does not work, because the human species cannot be defined, phenotypically, by quantitative measures.

I reiterate....stop before cats tear you to pieces....

Take your white-thinking cap off........

who the fuck is going to be torn to pieces..?

northern Africans are not "black" they are Mediterranean.

ya'll kats want to claim them
I don't

how many fucking northern africans were on the slave ships heading to the new world.

please tell me

fuck outta here.
 
Dudes catching feelings over the phrase "black africa" now?:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Same people were bitching when Gaddafi took over the African Union because he wasnt black, but now wants his country to be considered black africa:roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2:

Muammar-Gaddafi-3.jpg

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

thank you
these niggas is clowns man
kats just love to argue:dunno:
 
dude I've read the history
that's why I have such strong opinions on the subject

do you consider people from northern Africa "black"
do you think a man from Algeria considers himself being of the same ethnic group as a man from Angola..

come on man

when I say "black" I mean slaves that were brought to the Americas and the caribbean

ethnically there is no difference between a Jamaican and a African American
a black dominican or black person born in Brazil

all our ancestors came in the same slave ships from west/central/southern region of Africa

there weren't too many slaves from Northern Africa or East Africa ethiopia, somalia..etc.

Sir no one is denying that, but lets stick to the topic. DICTATORS IN AFRICA. Now, you mentioned that "black africa" is in a bad situation. You mentioned that east africa (i personally came from the so called geographical concept called UGANDA which happens to be in EAST AFRICA) is not part of "black africa". You also mentioned that the people from North Africa are Arabs/Mediterenians but are not black. Now, you stil haven't answered my question, can a black person be also classified as an "Arab"? Simple yes or no answer...can a white person be also classified as an "Arab" and finally, this is the straw that broke the camel's back, what is the definition of an "Arab"? What is an "Arab"?...Sir, talk to me...
 
Dudes catching feelings over the phrase "black africa" now?:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Same people were bitching when Gaddafi took over the African Union because he wasnt black, but now wants his country to be considered black africa:roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2:

No one is catching "feelings". Just trying to let the member know that his understanding of what he refers to as "black Africa" is a racist/white supremacist construct and it is not logical in regard to classify people based on their phenotype. Other than that most, if not all, of the countries on the African continent are racist/white supremacist constructs. Now, if one wants to address the question of leadership or "dictatorship" in Africa, they have to address it within the context of the global, national and local system of racism/white supremacy. That's all, nothing more, nothing less. oNe!!!
 
Sir no one is denying that, but lets stick to the topic. DICTATORS IN AFRICA. Now, you mentioned that "black africa" is in a bad situation. You mentioned that east africa (i personally came from the so called geographical concept called UGANDA which happens to be in EAST AFRICA) is not part of "black africa". You also mentioned that the people from North Africa are Arabs/Mediterenians but are not black. Now, you stil haven't answered my question, can a black person be also classified as an "Arab"? Simple yes or no answer...can a white person be also classified as an "Arab" and finally, this is the straw that broke the camel's back, what is the definition of an "Arab"? What is an "Arab"?...Sir, talk to me...

When I said East Africa
I meant the "horn of Africa" Ethiopia, Somalia..etc

I don't consider those people black Africans
there is a great middle east influence in there culture and people so
no I don't consider them black Africans

when I think of black Africans
I mainly think of the people of the Western/central/southern region below the Sahara Desert

Can a Arab be black of course
do I consider Morocco, Algeria, Egypt(North African countries) black African countries.

NO I DO NOT.
 
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thank you
these niggas is clowns man
kats just love to argue:dunno:

No one is arguing. "We" are just exchanging views and trying to find out what is logical or not logical. Other that that, there are no "niggas" here. of cause not until you have defined what a "nigga" is. Is a "nigga" someone that likes to ask questions? Is a "nigga" someone that wants to learn? Is a "nigga" someone that wants to follow logic? If you answers to these questions are yes, then i wish that every black and white person would be a "nigga". Then this world would be better place. The evidence shows that not many people ask questions and try to do the best logical thing in order to solve problems.
 
When I said East Africa
I meant the "horn of Africa" Ethiopia, Somalia..etc

I don't consider those people black Africans
there is a great middle east influence in there culture and people so
no I don't consider them black Africans

when I think of black Africans
I mainly think of the people of the Western/central/southern region below the Sahara Desert


Can a Arab be black of course
do I consider Morocco, Algeria, Egypt(North African countries) black African countries.

NO I DO NOT.

What is the etc....? lets be clear, because we don't want to be confused. Sir, but Uganda, Tanzania are also below the so called "Sahara Desert" :confused: So what are we talking about here. Aren't the people in Uganda and Tanzania, Kenya also black....:confused: But if an Arab can be black, then why aren't North African countries classified as "black African countries"? Are they white African countries?...Are are they just Arab African countries? and if they are that, why are they that. And one more time, what is an ARAB? Sir, talk to me...
 
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still havent answered my question, bruh

anyway..

oh yeah...using your own logic

(keep in mind that google images are in no way a comprehensive representation of what phenotypical characteristics exist within a country's border)

somali man

http://www.google.ca/images?q=Somal...i=5-xGTMLSKueLnAfSp9XGAw&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18

ethiopian man

http://www.google.ca/images?q=ethio...i=RO1GTPDxMsemnQfQs9nlAw&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18

eritriean man

http://www.google.ca/images?q=eritr...i=ru1GTJ3RGee3nAfzlZTQAw&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18

Now a little west and south.

sudanese man

http://www.google.ca/images?um=1&hl...man&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Kenyan man

I assume this is what you define as "black africa"

http://www.google.ca/images?q=kenya...i=SO5GTLfNNNGCngem5onhAw&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18

The member is failing to accept the fact that the term, "black Africa" is a "colonial construct" that was designed to mistreatment the people within the African continent that had/have a darker skin color in favor of the people on the continent that had/have a lighter skin color. "They" constructed the term while "they" were trying to attach themselves to the great civilization of EGYPT.
 
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duppy_maka...in regard to your taking up, just like most non white people, racist/white supremacist terms, concepts and definitions of how to divide up Africa, i would like to recommend a book that clearly talks about terms like "black africa", sub Saharan Africa, the dark continent as being racist/white supremacist concepts/constructs that are designed to mistreat and at the same time maintain the global, national and local system of racism/white supremacy. The book (pg. 108) is:

Frantz_Fanon_The_Wretched_of_the_Earth.jpg

Pls take time to read it and next time, when you and anyone else are discusing DICTATORS IN AFRICA, please make sure to do that within the context of white global hegemony.

oNe!!!
 
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still havent answered my question, bruh

Didnt think it was that challenging.

Maybe a different picture is easier?

barack-obama.jpg


What is he?

anyway..

oh yeah...using your own logic

(keep in mind that google images are in no way a comprehensive representation of what phenotypical characteristics exist within a country's border)

somali man

http://www.google.ca/images?q=Somal...i=5-xGTMLSKueLnAfSp9XGAw&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18

ethiopian man

http://www.google.ca/images?q=ethio...i=RO1GTPDxMsemnQfQs9nlAw&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18

eritriean man

http://www.google.ca/images?q=eritr...i=ru1GTJ3RGee3nAfzlZTQAw&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18

Now a little west and south.

sudanese man

http://www.google.ca/images?um=1&hl...man&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Kenyan man

I assume this is what you define as "black africa"

http://www.google.ca/images?q=kenya...i=SO5GTLfNNNGCngem5onhAw&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18

I misspoke when I said East Africa
what I meant was the "Horn Of Africa"

Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrean I do not consider these people "black Africans"

the Middle Eastern/Arab influence is too strong for me to consider them the same as a black person from

South Africa , Ghana...etc

for example

you could line up five black men

one from South Africa
one from Ghana
one from kenya
one from Nigera
one from Ethiopia
and I could spot the Ethiopian in a second

I couldn't do the same for the South African or Kenyan or Nigerian..etc because they would all look the same to me
they would all look like "black Africans"

you could replace the Ethiopian with the Somalian and I could spot him in a second too

once again because of the heavy influence of the Middle Eastern culture.

so just to clear it up

"Black Africa"

Western/Central/Eastern(below the Sahara except for the"horn of African) and Southern region of the African Continent.
 
I misspoke when I said East Africa
what I meant was the "Horn Of Africa"

Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrean I do not consider these people "black Africans"

the Middle Eastern/Arab influence is too strong for me to consider them the same as a black person from

South Africa , Ghana...etc

for example

you could line up five black men

one from South Africa
one from Ghana
one from kenya
one from Nigera
one from Ethiopia
and I could spot the Ethiopian in a second

I couldn't do the same for the South African or Kenyan or Nigerian..etc because they would all look the same to me
they would all look like "black Africans"


you could replace the Ethiopian with the Somalian and I could spot him in a second too

once again because of the heavy influence of the Middle Eastern culture.

so just to clear it up

"Black Africa"

Western/Central/Eastern(below the Sahara except for the"horn of African) and Southern region of the African Continent.

We are now making some progress and learning. Don't you think so? Now, it does get more confusing Sir...Example: the same could be said if one lines up all so called Kenyans (Kikuyu, luo, luyha, Masaai, etc) The Kikuyu person might only be able to identify Kikuyus and all the other groups might look the same to him/her. Based on what, based on his personal perception. Other than that Sir, are you trying to imply that Ethiopians are not black :smh: Just go to the Jamaican Bobo Shanti or Ghanaian Bobo Shanti communities with that understanding and you will see what them Rastas gwann tell you :lol:
 
We are now making some progress and learning. Don't you think so? Now, it does get more confusing Sir...Example: the same could be said if one lines up all so called Kenyans (Kikuyu, luo, luyha, Masaai, etc) The Kikuyu person might only be able to identify Kikuyus and all the other groups might look the same to him/her. Based on what, based on his personal perception. Other than that Sir, are you trying to imply that Ethiopians are not black :smh: Just go to the Jamaican Bobo Shanti or Ghanaian Bobo Shanti communities with that understanding and you will see what them Rastas gwann tell you :lol:

has a Jamaican it hurts my heart to see
Rasta Man worship Haile Selassie
like I said
I don't consider Ethiopians black
but
I guess it's okay since it was the
black prince

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that told them to look to the east..
 
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