Russia new Oreshnik missile, shocked everyone… Russia tells Germany they will send 2 to visit If Germany allows Ukraine to use German’s missiles
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"He was coordinating missile strikes on Ukraine's cities, now he's not"
as opposed to giving Putin everything he wants..? so where does that stop & its rather ironic Putin is the one therightwing favor in this ...& its why rightwing is favored by putin
Biden missile move puts UK and French weapons into play
London and Paris have donated Storm Shadow/SCALP missiles to Kyiv, but Washington has blocked their use against targets in Russia.
Although the European cruise missiles are manufactured by missile-maker MBDA, the U.S. controls some of their tech, giving it a voice in their use. | Ben Stansall/AFP via Getty Images
NOVEMBER 18, 2024 8:01 PM CET
BY JAN CIENSKI, LAURA KAYALI, JACOPO BARIGAZZI ANDEMILIO CASALICCHIO
All eyes are on London and Paris after United States President Joe Biden’s decision to allow Ukraine to use American missiles to hit targets inside Russia.
France and the United Kingdom have donated their Storm Shadow/SCALP cruise missiles to Kyiv. So far, London has not received permission from the U.S. to allow them to be used to attack targets in Russia, while Paris remains vague about what Ukrainians could do.
Although the European cruise missiles are manufactured by missile-maker MBDA, the U.S. controls some of the company's tech, giving it a voice in their use.
Both the French and U.K. government have previously indicated a willingness to approve Ukrainian use against targets in Russia of the cruise missiles they have supplied,” said Matthew Savill, director of military sciences at London’s Royal United Services Institute. “However, both rely on updated targeting data that probably comes from the U.S., meaning that they too have been blocked from Ukrainian use.”
Until now both the U.S. and the European missiles have been used against targets inside Russian-occupied Ukraine, including the Russian Black Sea fleet that was based in Crimea before being forced to flee to Russian ports further away from the fighting.
France has given several dozen SCALP missiles to Kyiv. Two French officials said Paris doesn’t need Washington’s approval to let Ukrainians use them, but so far there is no sign of Kyiv using SCALPs on targets inside Russia.
On Monday, French Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot echoed French President Emmanuel Macron’s position on “strategic ambiguity.”
“We openly said that [allowing Ukraine to hit inside Russia] was an option we would consider, if we were to authorize strikes on targets from which the Russians attack Ukrainian territory,” he told reporters in Brussels, speaking ahead of a European Union Foreign Affairs Council meeting. “So, nothing new under the sun.”
Speaking to reporters on the sidelines of the G20 leaders' summit in Rio de Janeiro overnight on Monday, Macron said he thought President Joe Biden made "a good decision" in allowing Ukraine use American-made to strike inside Russia.
Pressed on whether the U.K. government will follow Biden’s move on long-range missiles, a No. 10 Downing Street spokesperson said the U.K. had “been consistent throughout that providing specific details on operational matters would only serve to benefit [Russian President Vladimir] Putin during an ongoing illegal war.”
The spokesperson added: “It has always been the case we work closely with our allies and engage to ensure that strategically we are providing the support that Ukraine needs, and we do that in consultation both with Ukraine and with each other as allies.”
Italy has also donated SCALP missiles, but it has long made clear it will not allow them to be used inside Russia.
“We’ll continue to follow the line that we have always followed,” Italian Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani told reporters in Brussels on Monday.
Biden’s move got wider European support.
“I have been saying, once and again, that Ukrainians should be able to use the arms we provide to them not only to stop the arrows, but also to be able to hit the archers,” said the EU’s top diplomat Josep Borrell.
It is also increasing pressure on German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to rethink his adamant refusal to supply Ukraine with its bunker-buster Taurus cruise missiles. So far, Scholz is not budging.
“There are certain limits for the chancellor,” his spokesperson said. “He does not want these long-range weapons to be delivered. This position will not change.”
Ukraine has been pleading for months for its allies to relax restrictions on using the missiles. Even though that’s now happened, it’s not clear it will have a significant impact on the war.
“The relaxation of range limits for Ukraine’s usage of U.S. ATACMs follows the overall pattern of America’s approach to this war: To make sure Ukraine cannot inflict significant damage on Russia ... but to allow small increases in hardware provision and their usage over extended periods of time,” said James Nixey, director of Chatham House’s Russia and Eurasia Program. “The drip feed continues.”
“The U.K. and France don’t need much encouragement to follow suit. Germany is still sitting back,” he added.
Destructive capabilities
Ukraine does have its own long-range missiles and is developing more, and also regularly hits Russian targets with its drones. But the Western weapons provide a precise and powerful punch that Kyiv so far lacks.Strikes are not made with words ... The missiles will speak for themselves,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said over the weekend.
The American ATACMS, built by Lockheed Martin and in service since 1991, is a ground-launched ballistic missile with a range of about 300 kilometers. It can carry two types of warhead: cluster munitions that send bomblets scattering across the target zone, and a 214 kilogram unitary warhead used for hardened facilities.
Ukraine has been using them since 2023, initially being supplied with the shorter range M39 Block variant.
The Storm Shadow/SCALP and Taurus cruise missiles are quite similar.
Both are launched from fighter jets, are around 5 meters long, and weigh about the same: 1,300 kg for the Storm Shadow/SCALP and 1,400 kg for the Taurus. Each has a range of about 500 kilometers and very similar warheads — 450 kg for Storm Shadow/SCALP and 461 kg for Taurus.
However, Taurus’ MEPHISTO warhead is well suited to blowing up multilayered or buried targets, which would make it useful against the Kerch Strait Bridge that links Russia to Crimea.
Man, President Elect about to send us to WW3….., wait….
Which one
They done fucked up now
It don't matter both parties want this shit to go nuclear, but let some these negroes tell it wasn't Biden, but Trump that was gonna be doing this type shit.
You really are a dummy huh?
Ya hate ta see it.
Russia has lost a lot of personel in Ukraine. Like, a lot a lot.
Isn't that the main objective? All our generals are in support of Ukraine because we get them to weaken one of our biggest adversaries at a fraction of the cost.
Oh, I know that’s why they had to go run into North Korea for a little help. Russia is not a strong military anymore and only half of the news works. NATO could easily take care of Russia, even without America.
Straight scorched earthdemocrats are so upset they lost to Trump again, they want to destroy the planet
The hypersonic missile Russa has is too fast for radar. No warning
Bullshit
One of the main reasons Trump was elected was that he wants peace between Ukraine and Russia.
The left seems to really want this war.....This is not a "both parties" issue.
Its sad that democrats would risk annihilation of countless lives to protect such a corrupt country.
Russia also has quite a few submarines. They just docked one in Cuba not long ago.
Matter of fact, they have the most subs out of all countries.
Cats don't know what they are about to get into.
This is very sad.
I don't think they care about Ukraine. They just don't want Putin to gain ground and reestablish the USSR. Ukraine just the most recent stop, and not the first, he has been annexing sovereign areas since Obama (Crimea for example).
Putin is such a bitch and Russia's military is so weak that he'll threaten to destroy the planet because he can't take little Ukraine
Read this post by roblo closely
The west broke the agreements that were made with Gorbachev about eastward expansion of NATO. Everything has been spiralling out of control since then.
I remember seeing Dmitry Medvedev sounding the alarm way back in 2012 about NATO encroachment. After the overthrow of the Ukrainian president during Obama's regime, I knew that we were moving towards chaos. (Russia took Crimea after).
This is not about Soviet Union expansion. Some hidden hand of power in the west wants something in Russia.
picture the US just blocked a UN resolution to ceasefire in Gaza like wtf probably Washington 4th time doing this
Listen, if you to believe it’s only one side by all means believe it. But, I listen to what’s coming from the rhetoric on both sides. What’s Trump saying about Israel? Don’t send more weapons? He was all about draining the swamp during his last presidency. How did that go? I’m not holding my breath. If he ends the wars I’m all for it, but if he continues on the same path this military industrial complex is on I’m not gonna be susprised.
Dawg many of those governing bodies, talking about invading Mexico to battle the cartels. Like this a serious thing
/ Two days ago, after receiving permission from the US, Ukraine hit a target deep in Russia for the first time with American ATACMS tactical ballistic missiles.
The Russian Defense Ministry announced that the defense systems destroyed 5 of the 6 missiles fired.
However, this attack triggered a strong reaction from Russia and provided a necessary justification to revise its nuclear doctrine, which had been previously proposed.
Vladimir Putin confirmed Russia's nuclear deterrence principles. Also, Kremlin spokesman said that according to the new doctrine, the use of non-nuclear Western missiles by Ukrainian forces against Russia could lead to a Russian nuclear response.
According to estimates,Ukraine has at least 50 ATACMS missiles. These missiles have a range of 300 km.
America has announced it has information indicating Russia plans a major attack on Ukraine on November 20. Consequently, the US embassy in Kiev is closed due to potential Russian strikes until further notice!
The Russian Defense Ministry announced that the defense systems destroyed 5 of the 6 missiles fired.
However, this attack triggered a strong reaction from Russia and provided a necessary justification to revise its nuclear doctrine, which had been previously proposed.
Vladimir Putin confirmed Russia's nuclear deterrence principles. Also, Kremlin spokesman said that according to the new doctrine, the use of non-nuclear Western missiles by Ukrainian forces against Russia could lead to a Russian nuclear response.
According to estimates,Ukraine has at least 50 ATACMS missiles. These missiles have a range of 300 km.
America has announced it has information indicating Russia plans a major attack on Ukraine on November 20. Consequently, the US embassy in Kiev is closed due to potential Russian strikes until further notice!
If you send patriot batteries to Ukraine......I'll go nuclear....
ok....if you send those F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine.....I'll go nuclear...
ok..well....if you shoot long range missiles into our country I'll go nuclear....
ok...well....if you....????????
The nuclear card is the last card he can play, and he's played it too much.....he ain't doing shit., he can't win a nuclear war...hell, he can't even win a war against Ukraine.
What would they do against the 32 countries of NATO? + Japan, South Korea..... Israel... Taiwan...and other that would help us.
ok....if you send those F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine.....I'll go nuclear...
ok..well....if you shoot long range missiles into our country I'll go nuclear....
ok...well....if you....????????
The nuclear card is the last card he can play, and he's played it too much.....he ain't doing shit., he can't win a nuclear war...hell, he can't even win a war against Ukraine.
What would they do against the 32 countries of NATO? + Japan, South Korea..... Israel... Taiwan...and other that would help us.