Private ownership
On 30 August 2010, the Financial Times claimed that a Western private training support company ECA Program placed a US$1.5 billion order with Belorussian state arms dealer BelTechExport for 15 unarmed Su-27s (with an option on 18 more) to organize a dissimilar air combat training school in the former NATO airbase in Keflavik, Iceland with deliveries due by the end of 2012.[103][104] A September 2010 media report by RIA Novosti questioned the existence of the agreement.[105] No further developments on such a plan have been reported by 2014, while a plan for upgrading and putting the retired Belorussian Air Force Su-27 fleet back to service was reported in February 2014.[106]
The person who just called me a "Nigga" went straight to my ignore list
and I cannot see him anymore. Who else wants to join him there?
@Nzinga was it you that made the thread saying these planes were better than the F-22?
If I'm on ignore then how the fuck do you know I'm here? Did one of your female goats rat me out? How bout we make amends? Set up a one hour jizz-fest for me in the back of your mom's throat and then we'll let bygones be bygones. Whatcha say, Skippy?Get the fuck out of my thread you ass is on ignore:
MisterT
The location of Kaliningrad, since most of you do not know anything.
I'm betting that goat with the fat ass I posted is the one that snitched on you...If I'm on ignore then how the fuck do you know I'm here? Did one of your female goats rat me out? How bout we make amends? Set up a one hour jizz-fest for me in the back of your mom's throat and then we'll let bygones be bygones. Whatcha say, Skippy?
That don't help none.... gotta be at least five dozen here that call you that....... niggaThe person who just called me a "Nigga" went straight to my ignore list
and I cannot see him anymore. Who else wants to join him there?
The US isn't worried about this plane.
European allies might be worried but this plane poses no threat to the US military.
Where in this article that you posted of an "expert" does it state that the US military is threatened by these planes?That is what YOU are saying; below is what experts and analysts know and are saying
Russia’s Su-27 Fighters Wreak Absolute Havoc in the Baltics
The Kaliningrad Flankers are arguably the busiest—and most dangerous—Su-27s anywhere in the world.
by David Axe Follow @daxe on TwitterL
Here's What You Need to Remember: Russia's Kaliningrad Flankers patrol over the Baltic, intercept NATO and neutral spy planes in international air space and, on occasion, harass the rival planes so aggressively that they have no choice but to flee. If any Russian warplanes end up causing an international incident in the tense Baltic region, it will likely be the Kaliningrad Su-27s.
On June 9, 2017, examples of all three of the U.S. Air Force’s heavy bombers — the swing-wing B-1, the stealthy B-2 and the lumbering B-52 — gathered in international air space over the Baltic Sea for a rare photo-op with allied fighters and patrol planes.
They had a surprise visitor. A Russian air force Su-27 Flanker fighter sidled up to the U.S.-led formation and flew alongside long enough to appear in multiple photos. A few days prior, an Su-27 intercepted a B-52 over the Baltic.
The Su-27 was apparently one of seven Flankers that fly from Kaliningrad, Moscow’s Baltic enclave, sandwiched between Lithuania and Poland and geographically separate from the rest of Russia.
The Kaliningrad Flankers are arguably the busiest—and most dangerous—Su-27s anywhere in the world
They patrol over the Baltic, intercept NATO and neutral spy planes in international air space and, on occasion, harass the rival planes so aggressively that they have no choice but to flee.
If any Russian warplanes end up causing an international incident in the tense Baltic region, it will likely be the Kaliningrad Su-27s.
Over the Baltic on Oct. 3, 2014, an Su-27 with the numeral 24 on its nose in red paint flew so close to a Swedish air force Gulfstream spy plane—around 30 feet, according to Combat Aircraft’s Babak Taghvaee—that the Swedish crew could clearly identify the Russian jet’s weapons, including four R-27 and two R-73 air-to-air missiles.
In June 2017, Russia’s defense minister Sergey Shoigu was flying to Kaliningrad when a Polish F-16 intercepted the minister’s transport plane. A pair of Su-27s — likely from the enclave — intervened.
A few days later, an apparent Kaliningrad Su-27 with the nose code Red 93 flew so close to a U.S. Air Force RC-135 spy plane that the Pentagon formally complained.
While for many decades opposing air arms have routinely intercepted each other’s planes in international air space, NATO and Swedish authorities have grown increasingly concerned over Moscow’s actions in the Baltic region.
Russian aerial activity in the Baltic region has been on the rise for years — and escalated sharply following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in early 2014. Fighters from NATO and neutral countries have intercepted Russian planes on hundreds of separate occasions since then.
“We have seen examples of the actions of air power that can be perceived as more aggressive than what we’ve seen in a long time,” army general Sverker Goranson, then Sweden’s top officer, told a Swedish news outlet in 2014.
In June 2014, Kaliningrad Su-27s again flew within 30 feet of a Swedish spy plane. The Su-27s have also tangled with Swedish Gripen fighters and French Mirage jets. The Flankers have repeatedly intercepted, and occasionally endangered, American RC-135s.
In July 2014, an RC-135 was presumably monitoring electronic signals from the Russian enclave when at least two of the resident Su-27s—which as of 2014 included three Su-27SM3s, one Su-27P and an Su-27S, among others—vectored for an intercept.
Something about the Flankers’ behavior frightened the American aircrew. The RC-135 turned and ran—straight into Swedish territory. “The U.S. aircraft was directed towards Swedish air space incorrectly by U.S. personnel,” the Pentagon’s European Command said in a statement.
Five months later in September 2014, the Kaliningrad Flankers—which the Russian air force detached from the 6972nd Aviation Base in Krasnador, just north of the Black Sea—took part in a massive exercise that tested the Kremlin’s ability to reinforce Kaliningrad with scores of extra warplanes and hundreds of paratroopers.
War games have become commonplace off Kaliningrad. In July 2017, Russian and Chinese warships conducted mock naval combat off Kaliningrad. And Russia staged parts of its sprawling Zapad exercise in Kaliningrad in September 2017.
Russian Flankers have also escorted heavy bombers conducting mock attack runs on European countries—although it’s not entirely clear that those Su-27s came from Kaliningrad.
David Axe served as Defense Editor of the National Interest. He is the author of the graphic novels War Fix, War Is Boring and Machete Squad.
This article is being republished due to reader interest. It originally appeared at War is Boring.
Where in this article that you posted of an "expert" does it state that the US military is threatened by these planes?
Harrassing planes airplanes doesn't mean that this plan is superior to what the US has.
On June 9, 2017, examples of all three of the U.S. Air Force’s heavy bombers — the swing-wing B-1, the stealthy B-2 and the lumbering B-52 — gathered in international air space over the Baltic Sea for a rare photo-op with allied fighters and patrol planes.
They had a surprise visitor. A Russian air force Su-27 Flanker fighter sidled up to the U.S.-led formation and flew alongside long enough to appear in multiple photos. A few days prior, an Su-27 intercepted a B-52 over the Baltic.
The Su-27 was apparently one of seven Flankers that fly from Kaliningrad, Moscow’s Baltic enclave, sandwiched between Lithuania and Poland and geographically separate from the rest of Russia.
Where in this article that you posted of an "expert" does it state that the US military is threatened by these planes?
Harrassing planes airplanes doesn't mean that this plan is superior to what the US has.
NATO: Russian Su-27 Violates Danish Airspace While Pursuing B-52
Aug. 31, 2020 | By Brian W. Everstine
A Russian fighter jet pursuing an Air Force B-52 violated Danish air space on Aug. 28, the same day a separate set of Russian fighters intercepted another B-52 in a manner U.S. officials say was unprofessional and unsafe.
The B-52, deployed to Europe as part of a bomber task force, was flying over the Baltic Sea as part of the “Allied Sky” flyover of NATO nations when a Russian Su-27 scrambled from Kaliningrad and pursued the bomber from international airspace, flying “well into Danish airspace” in the vicinity of the Island of Bornholm, NATO Allied Air Command said in a release. The act is a “significant violation” of Denmark’s airspace, according to the alliance.
“This incident demonstrates Russia’s disrespect of international norms and for the sovereign airspace of an Allied nation,” said USAF Gen. Jeffrey L. Harrigian, commander of U.S. Air Forces in Europe and NATO’s Allied Air Command, in the release. “We remain vigilant, ready, and prepared to secure NATO airspace 24/7.”
Danish Quick Reaction Alert aircraft launched to “counter the violation,” but the Russian fighters had turned back. The Danish jets stayed airborne and patrolled the area.
The intrusion was the first of its kind “for several years and indicates a new level of Russian provocative behavior,” NATO said.
Two Russian Su-27 Flanker pilots intercepted a U.S. Air Force B-52 bomber that was conducting routine operations in the Black Sea over international waters on Aug. 28, 2020. DOD video.
Earlier the same day, the two Russian Su-27s intercepted another B-52 in the Black Sea in an “unsafe and unprofessional manner,” crossing within 100 feet of the nose of the B-52 while at the same altitude and in afterburner. Video of the intercept showed the B-52 experiencing turbulence because of the maneuver.
“Actions like these increase the potential for midair collisions, are unnecessary, and inconsistent with good airmanship and international flight rules,” Harrigian said in a release about the incident. “While the Russian aircraft were operating in international airspace, they jeopardized the safety of flight of the aircraft involved. We expect them to operate within international standards set to ensure safety and prevent accidents,” he added.
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Read that and it means nothing to support your argument.Read the article
Where in this article that you posted of an "expert" does it state that the US military is threatened by these planes?
Harrassing planes airplanes doesn't mean that this plan is superior to what the US has.
The Seven Most Dangerous Su-27s in the World
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Russia’s jet fighters in Kaliningrad harass NATO and Swedish planes
On Oct. 3, a Swedish air force Gulfstream spy plane took off from Linkoping air base in southern Sweden and flew roughly southeast over the Baltic Sea in order to monitor Russian naval maneuvers in international waters.
The Gulfstream soon had company—one of seven Russian air force Su-27 Flanker jet fighters that fly from Kaliningrad, Moscow’s Baltic enclave, sandwiched between Lithuania and Poland and geographically separate from the rest of Russia.
They patrol over the Baltic, intercept NATO and Swedish spy planes in international air space and, on occasion, harass the rival planes so aggressively that they have no choice but to flee.The Kaliningrad Flankers are arguably the busiest—and most dangerous—Su-27s anywhere in the world.
If any Russian planes end up causing an international incident in the tense Baltic region, it will likely be the Kaliningrad Su-27s.
Over the Baltic on Oct. 3, an Su-27 with the numeral 24 on its nose in red paint flew so close to the Swedish Gulfstream—around 10 meters, according to Combat Aircraft’s Babak Taghvaee—that the Swedish crew could clearly identify the Russian jet’s weapons, including four R-27 and two R-73 air-to-air missiles.
While for many decades opposing air arms have routinely intercepted each other’s planes in international air space, NATO and Swedish authorities have grown increasingly concerned over Moscow’s actions in the Baltic region.
As Russian troops continue to back armed separatists in Ukraine, Moscow’s warplanes have violated Sweden’s territory dozens of times in 2014. This year NATO’s fighters have intercepted Russian planes on no fewer than 100 separate occasions.
The October intercept was hardly the only—or the worst—incident. During a similar incident in July, an Su-27 again flew within 10 meters of a Swedish Gulfstream. The Kaliningrad Su-27s have also tangled with Swedish Gripen fighters and French Mirage jets. And in April, July and October, the Flankers intercepted U.S. Air Force RC-135 spy planes flying near Kaliningrad.“We have seen examples of the actions of air power that can be perceived as more aggressive than what we’ve seen in a long time,” army general Sverker Goranson, Sweden’s top officer, told a Swedish news outlet.
On July 18, an RC-135 was presumably monitoring electronic signals from the Russian enclave when at least two of the resident Su-27s—which according to Taghvaee include three Su-27SM3s, one Su-27P and an Su-27S, among others—vectored for an intercept.
Something about the Flankers’ behavior frightened the American aircrew. The RC-135 turned and ran—straight into Swedish territory. “The U.S. aircraft was directed towards Swedish air space incorrectly by U.S. personnel,” the Pentagon’s European Command said in a statement.
At top—Su-27 24 Red intercepts the Swedish spy plane in October. Swedish air force photo. Above—Red 24 on the ground. Photo via Wikipedia
Five months later in September, the Kaliningrad Flankers—which the Russian air force detached from the 6972nd Aviation Base in Krasnador, just north of the Black Sea—took part in a massive exercise that tested the Kremlin’s ability to reinforce Kaliningrad with scores of extra warplanes and hundreds of paratroopers.
NATO jets monitored similar movements of Russian planes to Kaliningrad twice in late October. Each aerial convoy included at least one Su-27.
Russian Flankers have also escorted heavy bombers conducting mock attack runs on European countries—although it’s not entirely clear that those Su-27s came from Kaliningrad.
Read that and it means nothing to support your argument.
I did a control f to look for the F-22 or F-35 in your article and it doesn't mention it, only out dated bomber planes that had a visitor.
Once again, please show where in your article from the expert that the US military is afraid of this plane.
what is air superiority?You continue to post articles of harassment which isn't an indication of air superiority.
I know that you're fan of Russian aircraft.That is because you do not know a damn thing. What would be an F-35 be
doing in a sky infested with air superiority fighters? Why are you looking for
F22s and F35s, are they flying in the Baltics? If they are not, why are they not?
The Russians are chasing every NATO plane that comes close to their border.
They are not the ones deciding which NATO planes should fly. It IS NOT up
to you to choose the parameters of the fight. The fight is what it is.
I know that you're fan of Russian aircraft.
I know that you've yet to post anything that refutes what I said about the US being threatened by this plane.
Odds are I know more about military aircraft than you do.
The reason why I brought up the F-22 and F-35 is because they're the most advanced fighters that we have and your article that you posted from the "expert" is talking about bomber planes being harassed by fighters.
I don't give a shit about NATO planes, my comment was specifically about the US not being worried about this jet.
You don't know a damn thing but you think you do.
WHY did this get me so bad?!Set up a one hour jizz-fest for me in the back of your mom's throat