Basically, what the GOP Cacs are trying to do is prove the FBI will do anything to get a conviction and that they even lied and cut corners. Thus laying the groundwork for getting off on a tech with a tainted jury.
BREAKING: House Intel Committee votes unanimously to release Democrat memo. Now waits for Trump
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Wait for the Seth Abrahamson tweet storm. He'll lay it all out but in detail but it's a huge pile of nothing and lacking context. And the worst part Mueller, Rosenstien, Wray and McCabe are Republicans LMAO!!
How is this a Democratic assault when top Republicans in NatSec are the ones bringing this to Justice?
Lifelong republicans too... and not even moderate republicans.
Rosenstein is toast. I give it a week.
Blacks peacefully kneeling for anthem to protest brutality= Disrespect to military and law enforcement
Drumpf shitting on federal LEO, discrediting intelligence community, exposing espionage methods, destroying relationships with international allies = Exposing abuse
Drumpf shitting on federal LEO, discrediting intelligence community, exposing espionage methods, destroying relationships with international allies = Exposing abuse
Police are good when they killing innocent Blacks but if they go after criminals like King Orange they must be stopped. Even though most federal cops are Republikkklans lmaooo
Won't happen.
Trump fucked this up....This memo did the GOP some good being talked about but not released.
Releasing it was a mistake.. Not releasing it built the conspiracy that the FBI,DOJ and Democrats would do anything to get Trump
Yea i was just explaining this to someone. Trump truly is a moron.
Basically paving the way to fire Rosenstein LOL. God bless America LMAAAOOOO.
We Read The Republicans’ Secret Memo So You Don’t Have To
Trump and the Republicans’ latest attack on the Mueller probe is a dud.
By Jessica Schulberg and Ryan J. Reilly
WASHINGTON ― In a move intended to undermine special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian involvement in the 2016 election, President Donald Trump on Friday approved the declassification of a Republican-authored memo that alleges wrongdoing at the highest levels of the Justice Department and the FBI.
Republicans have hyped the memo’s release for weeks, calling it “worse than Watergate,” while Democrats and the FBI have warned that the document omits key context and that making it public could damage national security and further undermine the public’s faith in the nation’s premier law enforcement organizations.
But the four-page document, which was drafted by Republican staffers in the office of House Intelligence Committee chairman and Trump transition team member Devin Nunes(R-Calif.), reveals little new information. Its authors focus on complaints of liberal bias among mostly Republican law enforcement officials, while omitting information that does not fit their narrative. The resulting document is boring and tendentious, and it’s hard to understand why Republicans were so excited to get it out and why the FBI and Democrats were so determined to keep it secret. It’s such a dud that it was probably more valuable to Republicans when it was still a secret document.
We read it so you don’t have to. (Although feel free if you want ― it’s included at the end of this post.)
Republicans’ basic charge
The memo centers on the charge that law enforcement officials misled a secretive court that approves surveillance warrants when they applied for permission to spy on Trump campaign official Carter Page.
According to the memo, the FBI and DOJ applied for a warrant to spy on Page on Oct. 21, 2016. The application for the warrant, which lasts for 90 days, was approved and renewed three times. Each application has to be signed by a top FBI and DOJ official. Then-FBI Director James Comey, then-deputy director of the FBI Andrew McCabe, then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, then-acting Deputy Attorney General Dana Boente, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein each signed one or more of the applications.
The applications to spy on Page were flawed, according to the Republicans’ memo, because they did not do enough to disclose the biases of the sources who provided some of the information included in the requests. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act applications relied, in part, on information gathered by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, who compiled allegations about ties between Trump and Russia into a dossier. The FISA applications did not mention that Steele was hired by a research firm that was hired by Democrats who were looking for opposition research on Trump, the authors of the memo wrote. (The memo does not mention that the same research firm, Fusion GPS, was first hired by Republican operatives who had the same goal during the GOP primary race.)
Steele himself was an unreliable source, the authors of the memo allege, because he spoke to reporters at Yahoo News and Mother Jones and because he didn’t want Trump to win the presidential election. In September 2016, Steele told senior DOJ official Bruce Ohr “he was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected,” according to FBI files cited in the memo.
That conversation should have been included in the FISA warrant, the memo’s authors argue. The FISA warrant application also should have disclosed that Ohr’s wife worked at Fusion GPS, the firm that hired Steele, according to the memo.
“While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations,” the memo says.
Steele’s alleged bias against Trump is legally irrelevant
The memo elides the fact that the FBI was applying for a warrant to surveil Page, not Trump. It provides no evidence that Steele was biased against Page. But even if it had, that wouldn’t matter.
Although the memo’s suggestions that Steele met with journalists and didn’t like Trump are sure to rile Trump and his supporters, they don’t provide much evidence of legal wrongdoing. Law enforcement officers — which is what FBI agents are — rely on biased informants to obtain warrants every day.
“Informants usually have ulterior motives, and judges don’t need to be told that,” Orin Kerr, a law professor at the University of Southern California, wrote earlier this week.
The FBI probably could have gotten a warrant to spy on Page without Steele’s dossier.
The memo’s argument relies heavily on the idea that Steele was integral to the FBI and DOJ’s efforts to get approval to spy on Page.
McCabe, who was deputy director of the FBI at the time, testified before the House Intelligence Committee in December that “no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court] without the Steele dossier information,” the memo says. But that testimony was private, meaning it’s impossible to know if McCabe actually said that to lawmakers. And even if he did say that, it’s not clear whether other FBI officials involved in the warrant application would agree.
The FBI had suspected that Page was a target of Russian intelligence for years before he became a Trump campaign adviser. In 2013, Page met with a Russian spy who was later charged by the Justice Department for acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government. That spy had tried to recruit Page, BuzzFeed reported last year. Law enforcement officials probably didn’t need the Steele dossier to get approval from a FISA court — which have notoriously high approval rates — to spy on him.
Trump and the Republicans’ latest attack on the Mueller probe is a dud.
By Jessica Schulberg and Ryan J. Reilly
WASHINGTON ― In a move intended to undermine special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian involvement in the 2016 election, President Donald Trump on Friday approved the declassification of a Republican-authored memo that alleges wrongdoing at the highest levels of the Justice Department and the FBI.
Republicans have hyped the memo’s release for weeks, calling it “worse than Watergate,” while Democrats and the FBI have warned that the document omits key context and that making it public could damage national security and further undermine the public’s faith in the nation’s premier law enforcement organizations.
But the four-page document, which was drafted by Republican staffers in the office of House Intelligence Committee chairman and Trump transition team member Devin Nunes(R-Calif.), reveals little new information. Its authors focus on complaints of liberal bias among mostly Republican law enforcement officials, while omitting information that does not fit their narrative. The resulting document is boring and tendentious, and it’s hard to understand why Republicans were so excited to get it out and why the FBI and Democrats were so determined to keep it secret. It’s such a dud that it was probably more valuable to Republicans when it was still a secret document.
We read it so you don’t have to. (Although feel free if you want ― it’s included at the end of this post.)
Republicans’ basic charge
The memo centers on the charge that law enforcement officials misled a secretive court that approves surveillance warrants when they applied for permission to spy on Trump campaign official Carter Page.
According to the memo, the FBI and DOJ applied for a warrant to spy on Page on Oct. 21, 2016. The application for the warrant, which lasts for 90 days, was approved and renewed three times. Each application has to be signed by a top FBI and DOJ official. Then-FBI Director James Comey, then-deputy director of the FBI Andrew McCabe, then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, then-acting Deputy Attorney General Dana Boente, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein each signed one or more of the applications.
The applications to spy on Page were flawed, according to the Republicans’ memo, because they did not do enough to disclose the biases of the sources who provided some of the information included in the requests. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act applications relied, in part, on information gathered by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, who compiled allegations about ties between Trump and Russia into a dossier. The FISA applications did not mention that Steele was hired by a research firm that was hired by Democrats who were looking for opposition research on Trump, the authors of the memo wrote. (The memo does not mention that the same research firm, Fusion GPS, was first hired by Republican operatives who had the same goal during the GOP primary race.)
Steele himself was an unreliable source, the authors of the memo allege, because he spoke to reporters at Yahoo News and Mother Jones and because he didn’t want Trump to win the presidential election. In September 2016, Steele told senior DOJ official Bruce Ohr “he was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected,” according to FBI files cited in the memo.
That conversation should have been included in the FISA warrant, the memo’s authors argue. The FISA warrant application also should have disclosed that Ohr’s wife worked at Fusion GPS, the firm that hired Steele, according to the memo.
“While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations,” the memo says.
Steele’s alleged bias against Trump is legally irrelevant
The memo elides the fact that the FBI was applying for a warrant to surveil Page, not Trump. It provides no evidence that Steele was biased against Page. But even if it had, that wouldn’t matter.
Although the memo’s suggestions that Steele met with journalists and didn’t like Trump are sure to rile Trump and his supporters, they don’t provide much evidence of legal wrongdoing. Law enforcement officers — which is what FBI agents are — rely on biased informants to obtain warrants every day.
“Informants usually have ulterior motives, and judges don’t need to be told that,” Orin Kerr, a law professor at the University of Southern California, wrote earlier this week.
The FBI probably could have gotten a warrant to spy on Page without Steele’s dossier.
The memo’s argument relies heavily on the idea that Steele was integral to the FBI and DOJ’s efforts to get approval to spy on Page.
McCabe, who was deputy director of the FBI at the time, testified before the House Intelligence Committee in December that “no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court] without the Steele dossier information,” the memo says. But that testimony was private, meaning it’s impossible to know if McCabe actually said that to lawmakers. And even if he did say that, it’s not clear whether other FBI officials involved in the warrant application would agree.
The FBI had suspected that Page was a target of Russian intelligence for years before he became a Trump campaign adviser. In 2013, Page met with a Russian spy who was later charged by the Justice Department for acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government. That spy had tried to recruit Page, BuzzFeed reported last year. Law enforcement officials probably didn’t need the Steele dossier to get approval from a FISA court — which have notoriously high approval rates — to spy on him.
He will never sealed his fate until he is out of office. His ridiculous supporters will follow him through hell or high water and making excuses for any and everything he doesHe just sealed his fate.
Fox News was having an orgasm over the memo.
They've already said the warrants justifies the investigation to stop.
They've already said the warrants justifies the investigation to stop.
He just sealed his fate.
If the memo is indeed correct, then many investigators will lose their jobs - they will not be allowed to prosecute either. Mueller is already aware of this - he has delayed the investigation into Mike Flynn as a result.
Lose their jobs for what? No laws were broken
yup; Carter was known to have (unknowingly) been the target of at least 3 russian spies, one of whom I believe was arrested and imprisoned (the other two got away). They got them on tape laughing about how they were using him.... and all that is totally divorced form the dossier.
They were already surveilling Carter before the dossier even came out. This is all theatre shit.
McCain was the first to speak out. Just dropped a statement calling out Trump and all officials involved with this shit.
These niggas are crazy for real.
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You raise a sensible point but I do not think it is applicable here, i.e., I do not think they would have to release more classified information to make it clear that it is false. In fact, everybody 'knows' what happened and the memo is merely there to confirm it.
Obama's administration used the FISA warrant as an excuse to investigate Trump - this memo will explain just how bad it was. Why would they want to investigate Trump? In my view, the answer to that is clear but it full of conspiracy theories so I will not get into that.
If the FBI involvement is proved, ie interfering in an election, this is bigger than Watergate. A party in power(DNC) interfering and spying through its internal police force( FBI), on the basis of fake dossiers against an opposition delegate sounds remarkably dangerous and anti-democratic to me
go somewhere else with that fantasy
What part of the GOP paid for the start of the dossier don't you understand? Go back to Storm front for new talking points from your massa
you can save this bs for someone not aware...
dude -you have made threads and posted verifiable reporting that discredits this memo
the media spent the last summer ripping apart everything summarized in this memo...
NO ONE outside of Trump bubble read this horse shit... cause if competent operatives did this wouldn't be what we are reading now
What was debunked? To my knowledge there are parts that are unverified, but none has been disproven afaik.
Firstly, the dossier has not proven to be fake... secondly, Carter Page was being looked at before the document came to light.
Knowing now, how much contact there was with Russian officials leading up to the election and inauguration, and how much people from the campaign and incoming administration lied over and over about those contacts (do we need to start listing the people/lies).... and knowing that one of the individuals from the campaign was responsible for changing the language towards Russia in the republican platform before the GOP convention....and seeing how trump has steadfastly refused to implement sanctions against Russia for what they have done.... anybody trying to spin this investigation as watergate-like is smoking crack.
Knowing now, how much contact there was with Russian officials leading up to the election and inauguration, and how much people from the campaign and incoming administration lied over and over about those contacts (do we need to start listing the people/lies).... and knowing that one of the individuals from the campaign was responsible for changing the language towards Russia in the republican platform before the GOP convention....and seeing how trump has steadfastly refused to implement sanctions against Russia for what they have done.... anybody trying to spin this investigation as watergate-like is smoking crack.
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