Eli Manning says OBJ has to step up if he wants the attention

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He has become downright errant with passes +15 yards

Dawg. They don't understand what's going on out there. They think the offensive scheme has changed because of pass protection. The offensive scheme has changed because Eli's inaccuracy throwing past 15 yards is 5th worst in the nfl and has been sliding yearly. The reality of the matter is that they can't reliably throw down field because Eli is too inconsistent.

But Eli getting happy feet on fuckin screen plays is ridiculous.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Who said that I didn't see dropped passes?
I never said anything about not seeing those passes being dropped.
I did say that the offense ain't much and that rests on Eli's shoulders.
He has become downright errant with passes +15 yards
I'm seeing a dude who is running the offense the way it's designed- quick hitters and getting the ball out
and then I'm seeing the same dude fucking up multiple reads
and I put blame on Mcadoo as well for who he chose to trot out there.
Jennings had more yards in 5 carries than perkins had on 10

dude nobody would put jennings b4 perkins.. jennings hasn't been shit for yrs.. perkins game wasn't the best but no way we wanted jennings out there..like i said if u went to the gmen thread with ur commentary talking about gmen should have jennings out there instead of perkins u'd sound crazy.. them drop passes was costly, that hail mary was killer.. game over why is everybody dwelling on the gmen like we the only squad that lost this week??? like i said more people who are not gmen fans watching and commenting on our squad than actual fans..worry about ya squads and we'll worry about us

 

[tallblacknyc]

Rodgers has had several seasons with an offensive line worse than the Giants line this year. Rodgers off years are better than Eli's best seasons. He's not in that class of QB. Don't compare the two.

u didn't answer my question.. would all those qb's had a better yr with our o-line playing for them??

 

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You DON'T want to go gif for gif with me with this dude fam
don't start it. just don't

Is he a first rounder?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

dude nobody would put jennings b4 perkins.. jennings hasn't been shit for yrs.. perkins game wasn't the best but no way we wanted jennings out there..like i said if u went to the gmen thread with ur commentary talking about gmen should have jennings out there instead of perkins u'd sound crazy.. them drop passes was costly, that hail mary was killer.. game over why is everybody dwelling on the gmen like we the only squad that lost this week??? like i said more people who are not gmen fans watching and commenting on our squad than actual fans..worry about ya squads and we'll worry about us

I don't care about what he did during the season I'm not arguing about him overall I am saying if someone got it then they got it
You see Montgomery wasn't running well then Michael came in and what did they do? KEPT RUNNING WITH MICHAEL
Jennings had it yesterday. period. Perkins did not. It's 1 and done you gotta go with who's performing in the game. Jennings was ready and that don't mean he better than him at any other point fam. Just yesterday he was clearly the better back
and then Mcadoo runs the 4th down play with RAINEY
Mcadoo needs a lot of blame too for how he called the game
a couple times in the 1st half he mailed it in on a drive and conceded a punt

 

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so according to you rodgers, dak, brady would have had better season if they had the giant o-line playing on their team??? so dak would've had a better season inj dallas if gmen linemen were blocking for him??? is this what your saying???

And this is another fallacious argument anyway. That's not even the argument. You guys are arguing specifically that the Giants' pass protection is TRASH and that's why he didn't play well this season.

However, all the data clearly illustrates is the exact opposite. Anyone can lie about what they're seeing on the field. You say he's been pressured (though the stats don't support it) but @largebillsonlyplease and I see a QB that's panicking and getting rid of the ball way too early. Dude is throwing the ball into the dirt on screen plays. I was watching live rolling with Bills over that nigga throwing the ball into the dirt on back to back plays because he thought the DE was going to get him coming from the weak side and one up the a gap.. but his RB picked up the blocks both times. But he fucking panicked and just threw that shit in the dirt

But the NFL keeps objective statistics on this. There is no debate that Eli is one of the least sacked, least hit, and least pressured QBs in the league. That is a FACT.

 

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To that one retarded ass nigga that keeps posting stats, here are the only ones that take the complete picture

^----- by his logic, the above play is all good because it didn't result in a sack.

 

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If dude really watched Giant games, he would know the stronger argument against Eli would be to compare 2015 vs 2016. Line was just as shitty last year but Eli had better stats (more offensive possessions with a shitty 2015 defense, but still).

So this kind of makes our point. You're saying the line was worst last year but he played better. So that means he's playing worst despite the line being better THIS YEAR. So what's the excuse for the production falling?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Dawg. They don't understand what's going on out there. They think the offensive scheme has changed because of pass protection. The offensive scheme has changed because Eli's inaccuracy throwing past 15 yards is 5th worst in the nfl and has been sliding yearly. The reality of the matter is that they can't reliably throw down field because Eli is too inconsistent.

But Eli getting happy feet on fuckin screen plays is ridiculous.

Yup.
The lines were shittier in years past. WAY WORSE lines and less weapons too and he put up better numbers and more ppg
so why the decline this year?

 

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btw, that doesn't even include right side which just as bad.

But please, keep telling me the pass blocking is fine though

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Is he a first rounder?

he about to be a free agent that's all i know lol

 

[tallblacknyc]

And this is another fallacious argument anyway. That's not even the argument. You guys are arguing specifically that the Giants' pass protection is TRASH and that's why he didn't play well this season.

However, all the data clearly illustrates is the exact opposite. Anyone can lie about what they're seeing on the field. You say he's been pressured (though the sats don't support it) but @largebillsonlyplease and I see a QB that's panicking and getting rid of the ball way too early. Did is throwing the ball into the dirt on screen plays. I was watching live rolling with Bills over that nigga throwing the ball into the dirt on back to back plays because he though the DE was going to get him coming from the weakside and one up the gut... but his RB picked up the block. But he fucking panicked and just threw that shit in the dirt

But the NFL keeps objective statistics on this. There is no debate that Eli is one of the least sacked, least hit, and least pressured QBs in the league. That is a FACT.

u can have all the stats and data u want..ur data could say it's gonna be 90 percent chance it's gonna rain or ur data say it's pouring outside but if i stick my hand out the door and don't feel a drop who should i truss more your data sheets or my eyes... i watch gmen game and saw that o-line wasn't shit ur data sheets lying to you or are wrong when it comes to on the field action

 

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Yup.
The lines were shittier in years past. WAY WORSE lines and less weapons too and he put up better numbers and more ppg
so why the decline this year?

Not playing from behind?

 

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To that one retarded ass nigga that keeps posting stats, here are the only ones that take the complete picture

^----- by his logic, the above play is all good because it didn't result in a sack.

To the retarded nigga who keeps posting one player, and offensive line is more than one player

 

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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Eyes > Stats

 

[Timdawg187]

Yea they wanted Scherff but Skins got him first...

They could've picked him man. They reached for Ereck Flowers instead. He's probably the worst tackle in the league. Dude was supposed to step his game up in the playoffs. Gave up 1 sack, 1 strip sack/fumble and 2 hits..

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Not playing from behind?

Explain this further so I can fully get your point please.

 

[tallblacknyc]

To that one retarded ass nigga that keeps posting stats, here are the only ones that take the complete picture

^----- by his logic, the above play is all good because it didn't result in a sack.

shit u forgot to put the most penalties and false starts was by flowers

 

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u can have all the stats a

I sat and watch games with Eli pissing his pants and throwing the ball away early because he THOUGHT he was going to get backside pressure. I saw him throw a screen into the dirt because of a safety blitz (but it was picked up by the RB)....

Multiple games with him panicking at the thought of pressure.

Yall pushing the story that the OL is trash. It's not. It's an average OL that's below average for run blocking (poor) and above average for pass blocking. It's not the reason he played like ass this season.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

shit u forgot to put the most penalties and false starts was by flowers

so how bad is the backup then?
if this is clearly the worst nigga to ever put on a uniform why did the giants allow this dude to be the worst nigga to ever put on a uniform?
why didn't a coach come in?
do those niggas not watch film but yall do or what?

 

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So this kind of makes our point. You're saying the line was worst last year but he played better. So that means he's playing worst despite the line being better THIS YEAR. So what's the excuse for the production falling?

See, this is how I know you are trolling. Line was the exact same last year (for the most part). Just as shitty. However, I'm just saying it would've been the better argument to strengthen your case.

 

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To the retarded nigga who keeps posting one player, and offensive line is more than one player

When your 2 worst offensive linemen are your tackles, you can't put up big numbers.

Go play with your useless stats fuckboy, I'll trust my eyes.

 

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Better than some unnamed turnstile tho

got a old ass Julius Pepper and some unknown nigga on a weakass Dallas D-line looking like LT

Geezus man his footwork is beyond horrible

 

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he about to be a free agent that's all i know lol

Lol

Flowers was a 1st rounder (10th pick)

 

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When your 2 worst offensive linemen are your tackles, you can't put up big numbers.

Go play with your useless stats fuckboy, I'll trust my eyes.

Your eyes not seeing Eli panicking and throw screens into the dirt

 

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so how bad is the backup then?
if this is clearly the worst nigga to ever put on a uniform why did the giants allow this dude to be the worst nigga to ever put on a uniform?
why didn't a coach come in?
do those niggas not watch film but yall do or what?

we gotta 100 page thread asking why.. we ask why the fuck is jennings even touching the football, why does the coach play so goddamn conservative, why the fuck is rainey touching the ball.. we ask a lot of questions of the cluster fuck that is politics..if u paid attention in the gmen thread all of this has been discussed numerous times each and every game

 

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See, this is how I know you are trolling. Line was the exact same last year (for the most part). Just as shitty. However, I'm just saying it would've been the better argument to strengthen your case.

Nigga that's what YOU SAID. I didn't make the argument. You said the fucking line was worst last season and that should be the argument made. Yall niggas so twisted up right now it's hilarious.

Offensive lines are the same in both seasons according to you, but this season he's objectively worse than least season. So what happened?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

When your 2 worst offensive linemen are your tackles, you can't put up big numbers.

Go play with your useless stats fuckboy, I'll trust my eyes.

So explain why your eyes are working good and the giants coaching staff is blind as fuck?
Yall need stevie to come and coach em up or what?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

we gotta 100 page thread asking why.. we ask why the fuck is jennings even touching the football, why does the coach play so goddamn conservative, why the fuck is rainey touching the ball.. we ask a lot of questions of the cluster fuck that is politics..if u paid attention in the gmen thread all of this has been discussed numerous times each and every game

If you go look in there, i'm in there periodically to offer unbiased looks at the squad and congratulations after big moments.
im aware. i'm talking about this game in a vacuum
this is the only game that counted cause it was for the season.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Lol

Flowers was a 1st rounder (10th pick)

the guy i posted was a high draft pick don't know what round but it was too soon he's clearly a udfa

 

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So explain why your eyes are working good and the giants coaching staff is blind as fuck?
Yall need stevie to come and coach em up or what?

Because he was drafted #9, that's why..

Shit, you had McAdoo answering questions about benching him during the middle of the season.

They stuck with him, I don't know why.. but at least they know now that his ass ain't the future at LT

They gave him a chance to fail, he failed.. now he won't be the LT..

That's the only way I see things.

 

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Here goes the resident idiot who doesn't know the difference between passing blocking and run blocking.

Some of you niggas are fucking retarded. Giants are ranked 26th in run blocking and 2nd in pass protection.

We're arguing specifically about pass protection.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

This bitch ass nigga who thinks hes an expert in every fucking subject. Bitch the Giants O line overall ranking is in the 20's he has a bad O line period bitch and no run game. And still made it to the playoffs so shut the fuck up. Your bitch ass be caping for Cam and Eli had a better season...shut the fuck up bitch

 

[tallblacknyc]

I sat and watch games with Eli pissing his pants and throwing the ball away early because he THOUGHT he was going to get backside pressure. I saw him throw a screen into the dirt because of a safety blitz (but it was picked up by the RB)....

Multiple games with him panicking at the thought of pressure.

Yall pushing the story that the OL is trash. It's not. It's an average OL that's below average for run blocking (poor) and above average for pass blocking. It's not the reason he played like ass this season.

and yet the guy you shit on managed to find a way to put up more points than the team he was facing 11 times this yr..no matter how great a defense is the team with the most points at the end wins the game.. gmen had to score in order to win and eli found a way 11 times to do so..u can't say his rb helped him or anything cause we was the worst rushing offense in the league..so yeah he sucks according to you but he managed to lead his team to a 19.6 point average... u could have the most sacks and the most int but points is what wins and those sacks and ints ain't putting up 19.6

 

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Don't even get me started on my dislike for seeing Jennings run the ball. Every Giants fan on here have been witness to my weekly rants on Jennings as well as Flowers. Even Cowboys fans like @dtownsfinest have seen them & commented on how bad they are essentially piggybacking my rants

 

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When your 2 worst offensive linemen are your tackles, you can't put up big numbers.

Go play with your useless stats fuckboy, I'll trust my eyes.

Yall niggas cop infinite pleas. last season, the Packers had injuries to their left tackle and their other worst graded lineman was their right tackle. Yet Rodgers put up 31 Tds and 8 Ints and what was without his #1 WR who was hurt all season. That's why @largebillsonlyplease was telling you that Rodgers' worst season are better than Eli's best seasons.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Don't even get me started on my dislike for seeing Jennings run the ball. Every Giants fan on here have been witness to my weekly rants on Jennings as well as Flowers. Even Cowboys fans like @dtownsfinest have seen them & commented on how bad they are essentially piggybacking my rants

all gmen fans kno the obvious but u got guys in here acting like jennings is barry sanders and flowers is better than the 90's cowboy o-line..nigs hate eli so much they trying to amp up his teammates like they were great and he was shit..shits funny how much they hate this dude yet that guy led his team to like the 3rd best record in the nfc and had a better record than all these nigs teams whose bashing him