POWER Book all seasons discussion thread (Power Book II: Ghost canceled )

:lol: 50 you snake motherfucker. I was skeptical at how adding more 50 to season 2 would impact the show, but Kanan is growing on me.

And Angela really sucks at her job. I know she's supposed to be in love in all, but you're telling me a seasoned United States attorney wouldn't suspect anything nefarious with Ghost and Tommy's connection? Especially considering they've been tight forever. It's like the thought that James would be in any way involved with the drug business hasn't even entered her mind.:rolleyes:

The club is going to wind up being Ghost's downfall or at least the flashpoint that brings everything to a head, not Kanan or the simping. They've been setting that up since season one and hammered it home when Stern made the point he was too emotionally invested in it. Now he's breaking his own rules with the clean money and everything. :smh:

Remember how they got Al Capone.
 
Whenever 50 comes on the screen, I get distracted.
He has no acting range and only knows how to smile, smirk and mumble..

He actually limits the Kanaan character.

Wesley Snipes as Kanaan would have taken this show to another level


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Little Quarter Water is a better actor
 
?!?

The show's WHOLE premise is finding out who Ghost is and getting him to flip on Lobos, for criminal organizations that are smart there are only two ways for the FBI to take them down, getting someone to turn or hitting up someone on tax evasion charges, either of which is then parlayed into a R.I.C.O. conspiracy to bring down the WHOLE organization, hell just now in the news that's EXACTLY how the FBI brought down FIFA, the American rep didn't pay his taxes, and in order to get his charges/jail time reduced he flipped on the entire FIFA board, that's just how


All that huh Bruh?

Was referring to the Adriana/Christopher/FBI storyline being snatched and worked into the Holly/FBI storyline on Power.

Worked your ass off typing all that shit though Bruh, I appreciate the synopsis! :lol:
 
Until we know Ghost's motives for putting Kanan in prison, it's really hard to say that his character can't still be the protagonist. If he did it just to get to the top, then yeah, he's fucked up and hard to like... but if he had a decent reason, that's a whole other thing. Remember on Ray Donovan, Ray put his dad away for 20 years, and he has been able to still be supportable as a character, even as fucked up as he is in every facet of his life.






I agree with what this man said

The story line is sliding sideways

Rule 101 is you need to give the viewers someone to support

Maybe it will be Kanan's son

Also I hope the female writer - producer - Courtney Kemp Agboh - isnt infusing pussy politics into the story. Trying to make the male characters she has set up as smart and hard out as simps who will not get away for their cheating.
 
That, plus a smart guy like Ghost not figuring out long ago that his side piece is law enforcement. He knew she was a gov. lawyer, but was never even curious enough to check out which government agency she worked for?
I'm willing to look past that because I dig the show; but they could have written that smarter.


And Angela really sucks at her job. I know she's supposed to be in love in all, but you're telling me a seasoned United States attorney wouldn't suspect anything nefarious with Ghost and Tommy's connection? Especially considering they've been tight forever. It's like the thought that James would be in any way involved with the drug business hasn't even entered her mind.:rolleyes:
 
Not sure if anyone said this but if Tommy's bitch start to talk I think Kanan will be assign to kill that bitch.
 
Shades of "The Wire", Ghost is more of a combo of Avon & Stringer in the way that he's smart about his moves & wants to go legit, but has no problem doing dirty work, meanwhile while Tommy has Avon's street smarts, he lacks true leadership qualities as shown by his relationship with Holly, he's more like the Wee-Bay of the crew, meanwhile Kanan is Marlo personified, he doesn't give two fucks about ANYTHING else except the drug business!

Ghost = stringer
kanan = avon
tasha = briana barksdale
stern = clay davis(the way he playin ghost:lol:)
 
Enjoyed Power last season but more impressed season 2 so far.

the writers set up great parallels this episode:

1. Tasha kicking Ghost out over a weekend in MIA / Tasha telling D-Wade his affair with Keisha was "minor" only 1 night.

2. Tommy telling Holly the puppy was "a bitch for my bitch" / Tommy getting upset when Jose said "I didn't touch your bitch"


Ghost and Tasha are the same magnet just opposite poles....

Kanaan on the Genghis Khan mentality
 
:lol: 50 you snake motherfucker. I was skeptical at how adding more 50 to season 2 would impact the show, but Kanan is growing on me.

And Angela really sucks at her job. I know she's supposed to be in love in all, but you're telling me a seasoned United States attorney wouldn't suspect anything nefarious with Ghost and Tommy's connection? Especially considering they've been tight forever. It's like the thought that James would be in any way involved with the drug business hasn't even entered her mind.:rolleyes:

The club is going to wind up being Ghost's downfall or at least the flashpoint that brings everything to a head, not Kanan or the simping. They've been setting that up since season one and hammered it home when Stern made the point he was too emotionally invested in it. Now he's breaking his own rules with the clean money and everything. :smh:

Remember how they got Al Capone.

That, plus a smart guy like Ghost not figuring out long ago that his side piece is law enforcement. He knew she was a gov. lawyer, but was never even curious enough to check out which government agency she worked for?
I'm willing to look past that because I dig the show; but they could have written that smarter.

Mofos must have hearts of stone, y'all telling me that neither you or your people's haven't overlooked obvious shit from a female in your pasts because you were in love?!?

That four letter word makes people NOT want to see or ask about shit that's obvious to EVERYONE ELSE, just look @ Kanye West, that mofo just did a concert looking @ a giant flag that had his wife & Mother of his children sucking someone else's dick, something that was a DISTINCT possibility when he married her, that's what love can do to you, lol!
 
Ghost = stringer
kanan = avon
tasha = briana barksdale
stern = clay davis(the way he playin ghost:lol:)

Lol, TRUE about Stern & Clay Davis, but I likened Kanan to Marlo not only because of how ruthless they are, but how much they are also about respect, what Marlo did with the drug store security guy is basically no different than what Kanan did to old boy in his trunk.
 
Mofos must have hearts of stone, y'all telling me that neither you or your people's haven't overlooked obvious shit from a female in your pasts because you were in love?!?

That four letter word makes people NOT want to see or ask about shit that's obvious to EVERYONE ELSE, just look @ Kanye West, that mofo just did a concert looking @ a giant flag that had his wife & Mother of his children sucking someone else's dick, something that was a DISTINCT possibility when he married her, that's what love can do to you, lol!

Bruh, I'm right there with you. I've had a few chicks hypnotized in the past -- even been caught up once myself -- that's why I haven't made too much of the issue 'til now. But the writers are taking this shit a little too far now. But here they're just letting her play the dummy.

In the middle of her presentation to the task force they're throwing Ghost's picture on the table with everyone elses, then laying out how Tommy has a lease with Stern, the same Stern who seems to be all Ghost talks about with her. She knows Ghost and Tommy are partners and she not once has even asked the question if he's deeper in this that just the club shit. She won't even let herself slip just a moment to connect the dots.

Not to mention she knows Jaime comes from the street and the type of shit he was into in the old neighborhood. It's one thing if she asks herself the question then turns a blind eye on some cognitive dissonance, but she appears to not even entertain the possibility that James is involved.

How they should have handled it is on some of that Godfather 1 type shit where Michael Corleone lets his wife ask him on question about the business... then lies to her face and she believes him, falling into his arms sobbing and shit.
 
it's TV not a book...so you're not always gonna have clear access to characters' thoughts and motivations...is there supposed to be a scene where she's sitting alone in a chair mouth closed stroking her chin as a narrator reads her thoughts out loud to the audience? she questioned ghost once if he knew about tommy's dealings...he said no...what more is supposed to be done...is she supposed to keep asking him...she can't investigate him any further...she ALREADY did a background check on him w/o him knowing and he came up clean...what more is she supposed to do...it's clear she considered him a part of it by checking him out w/o his knowing and by asking him directly...dude came up clean...and he told her he has no idea about tommy being into that shit...what more do you want her to do?

Bruh, I'm right there with you. I've had a few chicks hypnotized in the past -- even been caught up once myself -- that's why I haven't made too much of the issue 'til now. But the writers are taking this shit a little too far now. But here they're just letting her play the dummy.

In the middle of her presentation to the task force they're throwing Ghost's picture on the table with everyone elses, then laying out how Tommy has a lease with Stern, the same Stern who seems to be all Ghost talks about with her. She knows Ghost and Tommy are partners and she not once has even asked the question if he's deeper in this that just the club shit. She won't even let herself slip just a moment to connect the dots.

Not to mention she knows Jaime comes from the street and the type of shit he was into in the old neighborhood. It's one thing if she asks herself the question then turns a blind eye on some cognitive dissonance, but she appears to not even entertain the possibility that James is involved.

How they should have handled it is on some of that Godfather 1 type shit where Michael Corleone lets his wife ask him on question about the business... then lies to her face and she believes him, falling into his arms sobbing and shit.
 
it's TV not a book...so you're not always gonna have clear access to characters' thoughts and motivations...is there supposed to be a scene where she's sitting alone in a chair mouth closed stroking her chin as a narrator reads her thoughts out loud to the audience? she questioned ghost once if he knew about tommy's dealings...he said no...what more is supposed to be done...is she supposed to keep asking him...she can't investigate him any further...she ALREADY did a background check on him w/o him knowing and he came up clean...what more is she supposed to do...it's clear she considered him a part of it by checking him out w/o his knowing and by asking him directly...dude came up clean...and he told her he has no idea about tommy being into that shit...what more do you want her to do?
If she wasn't suspicious she wouldn't have done that inthe first place
 
it's TV not a book...so you're not always gonna have clear access to characters' thoughts and motivations...is there supposed to be a scene where she's sitting alone in a chair mouth closed stroking her chin as a narrator reads her thoughts out loud to the audience? she questioned ghost once if he knew about tommy's dealings...he said no...what more is supposed to be done...is she supposed to keep asking him...she can't investigate him any further...she ALREADY did a background check on him w/o him knowing and he came up clean...what more is she supposed to do...it's clear she considered him a part of it by checking him out w/o his knowing and by asking him directly...dude came up clean...and he told her he has no idea about tommy being into that shit...what more do you want her to do?

I know the difference between book and filmic writing. Hence the example I gave you with the Godfather.

It's sloppy writing. No way around it.

A show that traded on more nuance would have had a continued line of suspicion. I.E. maybe we see her follow him (the way he's done to her), maybe take a look at Tasha. Maybe she comes up empty each him, but anything but continue to stand pat, which makes her look incompetent. A more well drawn out story would be able to handle that and use it to ratchet up the tension by having BOTH character continue to feel one another out. Hence the criticism "she sucks at her job.
 
Hence the criticism "she sucks at her job.

she's the only one @ her job that's actually close to finding out who ghost truly is bcuz of her dedication/persistence...I think you're just nitpicking for the sake of it...she just made the connection to tommy about an ep or 2 ago...but she's been in love w/ jaime a lot longer...and she's already cleared him twice in her mind...once while looking up his records...the other time asking him face to face...nothing yet warrants her ignoring this to continue snooping behind his back and start following him around (ghost has a reason to on the other hand...he truly knows what she does)...seems like you want a cliche cat/mouse police drama and you'll probably get it...but something else would have to happen for her to put the love on hold and have a valid enough reason to look @ jaime as a suspect instead of a potential witness
 
I know the difference between book and filmic writing. Hence the example I gave you with the Godfather.

It's sloppy writing. No way around it.

A show that traded on more nuance would have had a continued line of suspicion. I.E. maybe we see her follow him (the way he's done to her), maybe take a look at Tasha. Maybe she comes up empty each him, but anything but continue to stand pat, which makes her look incompetent. A more well drawn out story would be able to handle that and use it to ratchet up the tension by having BOTH character continue to feel one another out. Hence the criticism "she sucks at her job.
I don't agree with you here bro. She is in love with dude. She already didn't want to do a background check. But did it anyway cause something might be up since he partners with Tommy. Then when nothing showed up. She already is happy. Why would she follow him or go see if Tasha is up to something. As far as she knws james telling the truth. Not even mentioning that she could fuck everything up between her and james
 
Nah, I get what you're saying... but it makes her come off as dumb. ...and it makes him come off as dumb too... two characters who in every other way seem to be very smart. In real life I could see a D.A. maybe knowing something was up, but purposely looking the other way because she was in love with the dude, but Angela seems to be completely in the dark. That I can't see; especially when they're following Tommy around, which means that they'd have to see him with the real Ghost when they're around some of the other people they do business (drug business) with.



Mofos must have hearts of stone, y'all telling me that neither you or your people's haven't overlooked obvious shit from a female in your pasts because you were in love?!?

That four letter word makes people NOT want to see or ask about shit that's obvious to EVERYONE ELSE, just look @ Kanye West, that mofo just did a concert looking @ a giant flag that had his wife & Mother of his children sucking someone else's dick, something that was a DISTINCT possibility when he married her, that's what love can do to you, lol!
 
they JUST started following tommy around...yall are complaining about shit that hasn't had a chance to develop yet...what's ironic is the other dude is talking about these subtle nuances and doesn't even see them building up...maybe they're too subtle for some of you

That I can't see; especially when they're following Tommy around, which means that they'd have to see him with the real Ghost when they're around some of the other people they do business (drug business) with.
 
peace

Bruh, I'm right there with you. I've had a few chicks hypnotized in the past -- even been caught up once myself -- that's why I haven't made too much of the issue 'til now. But the writers are taking this shit a little too far now. But here they're just letting her play the dummy.

In the middle of her presentation to the task force they're throwing Ghost's picture on the table with everyone elses, then laying out how Tommy has a lease with Stern, the same Stern who seems to be all Ghost talks about with her. She knows Ghost and Tommy are partners and she not once has even asked the question if he's deeper in this that just the club shit. She won't even let herself slip just a moment to connect the dots.

Not to mention she knows Jaime comes from the street and the type of shit he was into in the old neighborhood. It's one thing if she asks herself the question then turns a blind eye on some cognitive dissonance, but she appears to not even entertain the possibility that James is involved.

How they should have handled it is on some of that Godfather 1 type shit where Michael Corleone lets his wife ask him on question about the business... then lies to her face and she believes him, falling into his arms sobbing and shit.

I see what you're say plus where its coming from but I didn't see you point out some of what happen in the last ep.

Once Ghost swept the room for whatever info she had on their clique with Tommy pressing to merc her, he got on his own brand of bullshit to keep he on that cloud.

She may be bad @ her job, not well written or whatever but once she got up off that cloud (gassed by him talking about moving down to Mia with the babies) by finding out that he is still keeping it facts with Tasha, she slapped herself out of that funk that her sister was warning her on.

He gassed her earlier suspiciously & now she's gassing & lying to him now:
Look when he caught her with the coffee @ the train station - wan't no crying or dramatic shit but she was straight gaming because from that point on EVERY call she does get & every piece of pertinent, important business she's on definitely has to do with Tommy & Him; she told him that it wouldn't be like that.

In the last convo, her other co worker trying to be smart after the Match.com comment told her to tell her classmate that he better LawyerUp:lol: because their silly, thirsty asses are coming & questioning whether she has something concrete or not;
She told him she'd try to keep them off of him as much as they could but how's she going to do that, flirt with somebody?:smh:

She's good @ gaming info to get what she needs but not necessarily getting mofos locked up as she's working on that past her own shit.

Also, I learned that it's not just about having them hypnotized, but actually what/how u do/say/influence them while they're under that said spell(when listening/ while invested in u) - Ghost was doing his thing until he let that Tasha beef slip & result in how they end also putting her in some more crossfire by Tasha as well as Tommy.

Angela has been reminded by her Pops who remembers him well & she finally asked about having any biz with Tommy in this ep.

They finally have her using her head by not jumping in the ride with them after the flight & by her keeping her distance from him putting mouth & hands on her clouding her shit.

She doesn't have time to rock all black, creep & stalk him to see if he's lying or not as she's just going with her gut & her gut woke up after she got what she really wanted all of that time, to wake up with her Jamey:dunno:
 
She doesn't have time to rock all black, creep & stalk him to see if he's lying or not as she's just going with her gut & her gut woke up after she got what she really wanted all of that time, to wake up with her Jamey:dunno:

I was just coming in here to clown and say this shit...angela scaling up the side of jaime's building like the old batman show and shit
 
peace

I was just coming in here to clown and say this shit...angela scaling up the side of jaime's building like the old batman show and shit

I guess that's why I wrote it @ the last minute:lol::cool:

..Masked up with the wind machine blowing, one step at a time

to get to the top ledge to see what?

Tasha blowing an el with Keisha with her titties out for no reason again

with

moms Angie/Melody {GeneralHosp/Y&R} minding the grand kids in another room? :dunno::hmm:


For a brief second, no bullshit though, I thought Ghost was about to drop a MissionImpossible bug on her suit or something when he caught her with the coffees, all noided & shit.

Wife's arms were getting snatched up & thots were getting envelopes & plane tickets so he was on his shit this ep, whisper & shit like :hmm: "Bitch,...."
 
How da fuck do 50 get to go up to their apartment and Ghost himself can't?
He get the access codes from D-Wade or something?
 
Nah, I get what you're saying... but it makes her come off as dumb. ...and it makes him come off as dumb too... two characters who in every other way seem to be very smart. In real life I could see a D.A. maybe knowing something was up, but purposely looking the other way because she was in love with the dude, but Angela seems to be completely in the dark. That I can't see; especially when they're following Tommy around, which means that they'd have to see him with the real Ghost when they're around some of the other people they do business (drug business) with.

Bruh, that's EXACTLY how people in love are, they don't see SHIT but each other, their minds come up with excuses to fill in the blanks, remember we aren't talking about a new relationship here, just the rekindling of an old one, as far as she remembers her "Jamey" has ALWAYS been clean, it's Tommy that's been a malcontent, trust that AFTER the fact BOTH are gonna be like, "How the fuck I didn't see that shit?!?"

How da fuck do 50 get to go up to their apartment and Ghost himself can't?
He get the access codes from D-Wade or something?

yea i was trippin' too

good thing ghost had that talk with tasha prior to

D Wade put him on the guest list, as the guy @ the desk said you either had to be on the list or know the code, Ghost wouldn't be on the list since he had the code but quite frankly, how is someone who is a guest allowed to put someone else on a guest list w/o owner approval?!?

That's like having administrative powers as a guest on a Windows PC, even novices are smart enough not to do that, aren't they?!?
 
The way Tasha handled that gun when Kanaan left let me know that she was real nice back in the day!
 
Ok man... I'm not an idiot... I get subtlety and I get nuance... I just think she's being written a little sloppily for not being more curious about her man... and him too for not looking deeper into what she does. We can all disagree about that. It would come off better in terms of writing if at least one of them hadn't been completely blind.

Didn't know they had just started following Tommy though. Figured it had been going on and I missed it.



they JUST started following tommy around...yall are complaining about shit that hasn't had a chance to develop yet...what's ironic is the other dude is talking about these subtle nuances and doesn't even see them building up...maybe they're too subtle for some of you
 
I watched a little bit of this show and it's ok. The scene where 50 was suppose to be bangin ol girl just looked so fake, not well acted by him at all. :smh::smh::smh: I was waiting for someone to yell....CUT!!!! :smh::lol:
 
The role 50 cent is playing may be how he actually is. I have been around dudes just like the role he is playing.

I notice how he is sporting those sheep skin jackets. If he succeeds in taking over, you will see his style in clothes change.

I do not believe in the dope game any longer. But it is good when a man has a woman that believes in him and will stand with him and back him up. Ghost had a down ass wife.
 
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