Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warriors

[BDR]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Remember the Mavs was getting their asses handed to them until they went to the zone. So they played the zone with two 7 footers, and that Heat team did not have the players to bust the zone.. You loosen the zone with outside shooters, and being that they didn't have any deep threats they were forced to drive into the teeth of the defense that featured two 7 footers..
Now as soon as they got their outside shooters no team was dumb enough to play zone against them...

Negative the Mavs exploited the fact that Bron lacked a post up game...

 

[BDR]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

I tell you another giant red flag, the Warriors had plus 19 in rebounds and Houston had like 20 turn overs and for most of the game they were only up by a few points..
No way is the Cavs going to come close to giving up that many rebounds and have that many turnovers plus they are a much better scoring team than the Rockets..
Remember that teams like the Warrior and Hawks defenses (teams that like to play small and pack the paint by rotating fast and collapsing on people dribbling in the paint) are susceptible to teams with good ball handlers who can penetrate off the dribble and pass off the dribble along with wing shooters who can catch and shoot once the defense collapses..
Teams like the Rockets and Memphis don't have good dribblers and people who can penetrate plus their outside shooting is average.. This allows the Warriors to go small and quck swarming on the bigs in the paint, getting tons of turnovers..
Simply put, that shit don't work vs the Cavs and if you know anything about basketball and ever played you can look at the video to see why...

Dude you been talkin some wild ass shit, you know damn well in game 5 rockets warriors the refs dictated that game where the rockets shot 44 attempts from the strip vs 31 to golden state and only reason G state go to 31 was because late in the game rockets started fouling..

When the refs let G state and Houston play G state ran Houston out the fuckin building..

 

[BDR]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Warriors were the #1 ranked team on both sides of the ball. I've mentioned this before. They can defend any type of team as they have the personnel. That's not the issue.

The biggest issue the Warriors have is that they're extremely careless with the ball. That's where the Cavs need to exploit that and get it out on the break during the turnovers but otherwise slow the game down.

The Warriors are about as complete of a team that you can have... so exploit the turnover problems and also exploit the fact they havent been to the big stage before..so they'll likely to make mistakes late in games like OKC did against the Heat.

Co sign however how many Cavs been to the chip that's actually in the rotation? Bron, the rest of them niggas riding the pine

Warriors have no one who been there however their coach got 5 rings... This series can go either way but I give the edge to GS off the strength of their bench and home court.

That bench play from the Spurs last year is what buried the heat vs the Heat having no bench play

 

[godofwine]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

This is the key batter of the series. The starting front line for the Cavs absolutely must stay out of foul trouble. A good thing for the Cavs is that the Warriors shoot a lot of jump shots with takes pressure off the front line.

This here. Perkins right now is a shell of who he used to be, and if Tristan or Mozgov get in foul trouble it could be curtains.

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Dude you been talkin some wild ass shit, you know damn well in game 5 rockets warriors the refs dictated that game where the rockets shot 44 attempts from the strip vs 31 to golden state and only reason G state go to 31 was because late in the game rockets started fouling..

When the refs let G state and Houston play G state ran Houston out the fuckin building..

That game was consistent with what happened in the series and through out the playoffs where the Warriors won some very close games in spite of having such a huge advantage in the rebounding department and less turnovers...
So no, cant blame all of that shit on the refs..

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Warriors were the #1 ranked team on both sides of the ball. I've mentioned this before. They can defend any type of team as they have the personnel. That's not the issue.

The biggest issue the Warriors have is that they're extremely careless with the ball. That's where the Cavs need to exploit that and get it out on the break during the turnovers but otherwise slow the game down.

The Warriors are about as complete of a team that you can have... so exploit the turnover problems and also exploit the fact they havent been to the big stage before..so they'll likely to make mistakes late in games like OKC did against the Heat.

They are ranked high but I tell you those numbers are highly skewed... Tell me how many points they gave up vs teams like the Cavs, Spurs and Bulls, because those are the only teams in the NBA that is capable of exploiting their style of play..
Matter of fact go back to the tape vs the Cavs and break down some of their deficiencies in that game..
Its like in the NFL there are some teams that are quick and fast and are great at getting sacks, often these teams would have great stats especially if they go up against primarily pass oriented teams..
But if they always lose or play bad against larger physical ground running teams then the only stat I want to see vs premium running team is how good are they vs running teams...
This is a common mistake many so called sports analysis get into when trying to predict sports especially ones that never played the sport..

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Folks here was trying to say how great of a defensive team the Bulls were especially now that they were healthy, and I said they were good but in my opinion gimmicky, and get over because very few teams have to personnel to exploit what they do...
Yall called me crazy for that, but in the playoffs their style of play got exposed and the more the Cavs played them and made adjustments the more futile their defense looked...

 

[BrownTurd]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

This is the key batter of the series. The starting front line for the Cavs absolutely must stay out of foul trouble. A good thing for the Cavs is that the Warriors shoot a lot of jump shots with takes pressure off the front line.

I agree the must stay out of foul trouble and manage their tiredness because they will be force to play huge minutes

 

[MongoSlade23]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Warriors are a glorified Phoenix Suns. They've benefited from injuries all season and playoffs.

Curry hasn't faced a real defender in the post season and can't be hidden on defense in this series. Cleveland in 5.

 

[Mask]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

This here. Perkins right now is a shell of who he used to be, and if Tristan or Mozgov get in foul trouble it could be curtains.

Well I don't know why calling curtains...Kerr ass goes to that small ball rather quickly...getting Speights back will help, but he love that mid range jumper...so it's not like he's gonna bruise kats in the paint...


A very simple point, these two clubs matchup pretty good...Shum and JR will be huge...


Another thought about the bench, They're production comes from what the defense allows... If you gonna stay home on the role players back, but giving up the post then they're numbers will seem soft...but it's about you doubling down when they become effective. It's about ball control and movement while being ready to catch and shoot. This the problem Waiters had, they didn't give him time to adjust to that role vs why JR and James Jones are so deadly with Lebron...
So yea the depth don't seem sexy, but for what Lebron and Kyrie do it's prefect.
Also these cats are in a pretty damn groove, they seem very comfortable within everything.
Maybe Lebron's leadership skills is that of the greats... JR talks highly of him, Ray Allen fucks with him hard, Mike Miller been down with dude for years, James Jones rock with him.
Mo Williams cried when dude left...

Dude got a group of professional playing at a extremely highly level, in a short period of time.
Sometimes we hope to be part of something epic/special...well they probably always wished they could be part of a special thing. Early during the offseason they know they could be special...Lebron was telling them, "When we get to this level we will be special, because that's where I just came from, something special"


So it's very simple you stay at home and allow whatever happens at the rim.
Just live with that, but just remember Lebron understand and wants his teammates tuned in.

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Warriors are a glorified Phoenix Suns. They've benefited from injuries all season and playoffs.

Curry hasn't faced a real defender in the post season and can't be hidden on defense in this series. Cleveland in 5.

Name one team in the west that can play half court ball, with people who can dribble penetrate, attack the rim, shoot the outside shot and rebound.. Matter fact there are only three teams in the league that can remotely play this way, the Bulls (on a good day), the Spurs (on a good day), and the Cavs 85% of the time..
No need pulling up what they can do to those other teams because like you said, the Suns also had some lofty numbers and wins vs teams that were not equipt to deal with their style of play..

 

[BDR]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Suns had a dumb ass coach too

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Well I don't know why calling curtains...Kerr ass goes to that small ball rather quickly...getting Speights back will help, but he love that mid range jumper...so it's not like he's gonna bruise kats in the paint...


A very simple point, these two clubs matchup pretty good...Shum and JR will be huge...


Another thought about the bench, They're production comes from what the defense allows... If you gonna stay home on the role players back, but giving up the post then they're numbers will seem soft...but it's about you doubling down when they become effective. It's about ball control and movement while being ready to catch and shoot. This the problem Waiters had, they didn't give him time to adjust to that role vs why JR and James Jones are so deadly with Lebron...
So yea the depth don't seem sexy, but for what Lebron and Kyrie do it's prefect.
Also these cats are in a pretty damn groove, they seem very comfortable within everything.
Maybe Lebron's leadership skills is that of the greats... JR talks highly of him, Ray Allen fucks with him hard, Mike Miller been down with dude for years, James Jones rock with him.
Mo Williams cried when dude left...

Dude got a group of professional playing at a extremely highly level, in a short period of time.
Sometimes we hope to be part of something epic/special...well they probably always wished they could be part of a special thing. Early during the offseason they know they could be special...Lebron was telling them, "When we get to this level we will be special, because that's where I just came from, something special"


So it's very simple you stay at home and allow whatever happens at the rim.
Just live with that, but just remember Lebron understand and wants his teammates tuned in.

The problem is just what you listed... Against most teams especially teams that really on one or two big men to rebound, the Warriors small ball works perfectly and heres why..
Say you are a team like the Rockets, realying primarily on Horward to both protect the paint and boards..
Then the Warriors go small, now you can keep Howard in, forcing him at times to guard the perimeter while trying to hold down the paint.. What happens is the constant motion pulls him out of position causing him to rotate on mismatches and being that he is not fast enough to move towards the ball during a missed long shot, he is often way out of position for rebounds.. PLus on offense they pack the paint around him rendering him to a useless lump wainting for a perfect pass to feed him, but being they are quick enough to play the passing lanes, many of the passes thrown to him wind up being turn overs.. With the Cavs ability to attack the pain off the dribble creating their own shots in the paint combined with their ability to dish off the dribble, and hit the open shot, if GS decides to pack the paint, look for the Cavs shooters to have a field day.. If not then look for LeBron and Kyrie to kill it..
Now vs the Cleveland, the Cavs can play small and still have rim protection, dribble penetration, re-bounders and jump-shooters.. This is what gave the Hawks so much fits when they tried going small..
One James can play the 4 Thompson the 5 and the rest can be guards.. Meanwhile Thompson can play as a big man while not being exposed in the perimeter while James can guard 1-5. When the Hawks tried going small, they essentially turned Thompson in to a smaller Shaq bringing on way more problems than the system solved..

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Suns had a dumb ass coach too

Correct me if Im wrong, but you can't coach size..

 

[Coldchi]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...at-warriors-for-18th-win-in-last-20/24098935/

 

[Spectrum]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Co sign however how many Cavs been to the chip that's actually in the rotation? Bron, the rest of them niggas riding the pine

Warriors are 100 percent green though. If these are going to be evenly matched games that come down to the wire, the Cavs might steal the important game that could turn the series. I just expect Lebron to the person who makes a big play. I don't think a team has won a title (with zero players with finals experience) in like 25 years. That doesn't mean in won't happen this time... but it's something to watch. And Lebron having been there can rub off on the other players.

I'm not saying it's going to be THE difference in this series I'm just saying it's something to watch.because it's not going to be about talent...warriors been the best team on both sides of the ball all year..

 

[Spectrum]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

This here. Perkins right now is a shell of who he used to be, and if Tristan or Mozgov get in foul trouble it could be curtains.

oh..if either one of them stays in foul trouble, that's it. But they've been good about staying out of foul trouble and the warriors really don't attack the basket a lot..so they should be safe. People don't talk about it..but Mozgov changed this team..before he got there teams were just eating the Cavs in the paint..he's not Mutombo but a 7 footer that can move makes people think twice about driving

 

[Spectrum]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

They are ranked high but I tell you those numbers are highly skewed... Tell me how many points they gave up vs teams like the Cavs, Spurs and Bulls,.

It's not skewed. No one is saying they're an all-time great defense. People are saying that the team plays good defense. Spurs have been a top offense over the last two seasons so they're going score points. One of the chicago games went to OT so that skews the numbers. Cleveland only averaged 102 points against the Warriors so barely over the average..like less than a point above.

It will come down to Lebron playing in the paint. When Lebron plays in the paint and demands the double or help and kicks it out to the shooters, the Cavs are hard to beat. if he gets silly and shoots that jump shot, it helps GS. Plus, GS is hella sloppy with the ball so the Cavs needs to push on those breaks and then keep the pace down.

The series is going to be all about pace. You run with GS, they're going to run you out of the gym because they make up points on volume shooting 3s. The key to beating them is slowing down the game and just limiting the amount of offensive possessions they get (especially) 3.

They're good on offense and defense so it's not much to "exploit" besides just Lebron taking advantages of matchups.

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Road Rage full of shit and still has not answered the question about the Cavs bench. Please explain to us how the Cavs are going to beat Golden State with a bench of Jr. Smith, Dell, and James Jones.

Let me dumb it down for you since you tried to use that slick talking earlier.

The Cavs starting line up is

Kyrie
Shump
Lebron
Thompson
Mogzov

with a bench of Jr. Smith, Dellevedova, and James Jones. So lets break this down

You have no one to sub for Thompson or Mozgov as the cavs have no back up center or power forward. The only bench player that you have is JR Smith.

Golden State plays outstanding team defense because the stats don't lie but you want to ignore it. Golden State has played better teams and still has better defensive stats than the Cavs and there is no denying that.

With the way Golden State plays defense are you really putting all your hopes on JR Smith? Because when you look at your starting lineup Thompson, Shump and Mozgov can't score.

Dummy if a much bigger Bulls team could wear them down with Irving out and JR gone for two day plus Shump and LeBron injured how is this Warriors team supposed to do it? If you look at the video the Cavs didn't even break a sweat and was able to slow the game down doing exactly what they wanted... LeBron looked so comfortable he was literally clowing out there..

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

It's not skewed. No one is saying they're an all-time great defense. People are saying that the team plays good defense. Spurs have been a top offense over the last two seasons so they're going score points. One of the chicago games went to OT so that skews the numbers. Cleveland only averaged 102 points against the Warriors so barely over the average..like less than a point above.

It will come down to Lebron playing in the paint. When Lebron plays in the paint and demands the double or help and kicks it out to the shooters, the Cavs are hard to beat. if he gets silly and shoots that jump shot, it helps GS. Plus, GS is hella sloppy with the ball so the Cavs needs to push on those breaks and then keep the pace down.

The series is going to be all about pace. You run with GS, they're going to run you out of the gym because they make up points on volume shooting 3s. The key to beating them is slowing down the game and just limiting the amount of offensive possessions they get (especially) 3.

They're good on offense and defense so it's not much to "exploit" besides just Lebron taking advantages of matchups.

When they play small they like to swarm the in the paint and collaps fast as well as being fast enough to disrupt the passing lanes..
This is hell for 90% of the teams who like to post up and do that bounce pass in the paint... The way you defeat that is with dribble penetration, forcing them to collaps then passing then kicking the ball out to the perimeter and have the outside shooter knock down their shots...
The Rockets problem is that their only dribbler penetration is also their best three point shooter, and when Harden tried to attack the paint the Warrior dared him to kick it out, and with their smaller quicker defense they were able to swarm all over him...
Now go back and look at the video vs the Cavs when LeBron posted up or drove to the hole, the defense was frozen not able to swarm and trap, in the instance they did, James passed it and the open shot was drained, when they didn't LeBron had a easy score...
In this instance they have only two choices so all LeBron had to do was read the defense and react to what they are forced to give him.
Im not making this stuff up, this is simple basketball 101..

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Negative the Mavs exploited the fact that Bron lacked a post up game...

You can't post up with no point guards to feed you, and two 7 footers packing the paint in the zone.. Notice how as soon as they got outside shooter the Heat destroyed the Mavs and teams stop trying that zone bullshit...
Funny how kats say LeBron has no post up, then he has no out side shot, but when you look up he does nothing but break all types of scoring records..

 

[gene cisco]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

It will come down to Lebron playing in the paint. When Lebron plays in the paint and demands the double or help and kicks it out to the shooters, the Cavs are hard to beat. if he gets silly and shoots that jump shot, it helps GS. Plus, GS is hella sloppy with the ball so the Cavs needs to push on those breaks and then keep the pace down.

As great as Lebron is, he is his own worst enemy. Cavs will build up leads and then he'll fall in love with the jump shot. Or worse yet, he falls in love with his jump shot when the Cavs are down or at the start of games. As a fan, it's maddening.

If Lebron stays in the paint, GS loses this series. It comes down to pick your method of execution if Lebron stays in the paint.

But Kerr knows that Lebron can be frustrated. A couple missed shots and no calls by the refs, he is prone to jacking up a long J. Next thing you know, other team hits a 6-10 pt run. Seen it happen too many fucking times.

 

[Day_Carver]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Strategy to beat the Cavs is very simple; Make LBJ take tough shots and make him play defense; and just limit everyone else...Its really that simple and GS can do it...GS IN 6...Only other player is Kyrie and hes hurt plus he will have to chase curry all game..No where for Kyrie to hide on defense; What about Smith and Shumpert?? Those jumps shots wont be falling like they were against the Hawks with them chasing around Thompson and Curry; Its LBJ and thats it...Just dont see how the Cavs are winning...

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Cavs in 5.

Vegas has the opposite.

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Strategy to beat the Cavs is very simple; Make LBJ take tough shots and make him play defense; and just limit everyone else...Its really that simple and GS can do it...GS IN 6...Only other player is Kyrie and hes hurt plus he will have to chase curry all game..No where for Kyrie to hide on defense; What about Smith and Shumpert?? Those jumps shots wont be falling like they were against the Hawks with them chasing around Thompson and Curry; Its LBJ and thats it...Just dont see how the Cavs are winning...

Teams usually do this with a specialist who can guard him one on one plus big guys who can pack the paint, but that alone doesn't work if he has outside shooters that can soften the defense by opening lanes....
Remember both years that the Heat lost, they did not have Miller or any outside shooters and both were against teams with height and people who could protect the paint..
GS has none of that..

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

As great as Lebron is, he is his own worst enemy. Cavs will build up leads and then he'll fall in love with the jump shot. Or worse yet, he falls in love with his jump shot when the Cavs are down or at the start of games. As a fan, it's maddening.

If Lebron stays in the paint, GS loses this series. It comes down to pick your method of execution if Lebron stays in the paint.

But Kerr knows that Lebron can be frustrated. A couple missed shots and no calls by the refs, he is prone to jacking up a long J. Next thing you know, other team hits a 6-10 pt run. Seen it happen too many fucking times.

Watching the Heat for a number a years, I realize that there is a strategy in this, during big leads he often takes breaks on the floor, often settling for the easy shots while resting his legs.. During the playoffs do you notice that he only does this with at least a 12 point lead and as soon as they come close he snaps out of it to secure the games..
With Irving out he was almost forced to do so more, but now that hes back I doubt if you will see him go in to cruse control that often..

 

[Day_Carver]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Teams usually do this with a specialist who can guard him one on one plus big guys who can pack the paint, but that alone doesn't work if he has outside shooters that can soften the defense by opening lanes....
Remember both years that the Heat lost, they did not have Miller or any outside shooters and both were against teams with height and people who could protect the paint..
GS has none of that..

Dude you are funny...Its a simple way to guard LBJ; Make him take jump shots; Spurs showed everyone how to do it; Its not hard; Dont double team; Hell of LBJ has 35, 40 so what; Give him different looks from different people and just dont late any of these stand still jumper shooters get open looks; If he makes the shoots then so be it, but everyone else wont, thats all that matters; Watch how GS plays them and they are going to do the same thing...

 

[BDR]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Vegas haven't been wrong on their NBA finals picks yet

 

[Llano]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Warriors are a glorified Phoenix Suns. They've benefited from injuries all season and playoffs

I would almost tend to agree with you but unlike the Suns from back then, the Warriors play great defense and were #1 in defense all year.

They have a lot of long athletic players who are 6'7 and can switch on anybody during pick and rolls. Warriors are legit and should win because of their depth and talent. I just wonder how these cats will play at the biggest stage where they've never been before. Also, Mozgov and Tristian Thompson have to rebound better than Green and Bogut (especially on the offensive end). I think that whoever controls the paint (rebounding and defending) will win this series.

Cavs will need as much second chance points that they can get and must find a way to slow down the Warriors fast break opportunities. Cavs have less room for error in this match-up.

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Enough of words lets go to the floor.. Here are a few examples of what the Warriors are going to face and why their approach they took vs the Rockets shouldn't work vs the Cavs..

In this first pic the circle defender must choose to either abandon his man and help out in the paint vs LeBon leaving his man wide open at the three spot, or stay at home allowing LeBron to go one on one in the paint..



He collapsed late but was no match up vs James in the paint..


Now lets compare that to how they played Harden driving to the hole

Notice how many defender they had free to swarm him

Forming a wall and subsequently a turnover..


Now here is James in a similar situation

Instead of the Warriors being free to collapse on LeBron

Two Warriors defenders were forced to protect against Thompson back cutting the baseline and Shumpert for the open three.. Becasue of this, they were frozen..

Notice how they gave them the baseline daring them to try to attack, and look how high the zone was, and instead of staying home and worrying about their defender they were free to swarm the player with the ball, just like the Warriors did to Harden..


Another example of the Warriors packing the paint and focusing on Harden


If you don't udnerstand how the game is played, you are clueless towards what I am talking about, and you'd be stuck on looking at basketball like superhero ball, thinking games are won and lost base off the play of your favorite superhero baller, while being totally oblivious to whats really going on and how style and match ups is where games are won and lost!!!

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Notice how high the Mavs were free to guard the baseline in comparisons to how teams are forced to guard low vs the Cavs... The space between the first line of the zone to the 2nd determines the amount of driving room rim attackers have to drive.. Usually it the combination of men who can cut back door and three point shooters... The Heat team had non, so the Mavs were able to shrink the floor, and with two 7 footers to protect the paint, it was disastrous for the Heat..
But with Thompson, Mozgov and sharp shooter like Irving, JR and Shump that approach is not effective vs the Cavs...

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

The proper play would have been for Harden to give ball up to Terry, have him attack the rim then pass it to number 9 at the other side who should have been in motion towards the rim as soon as Terry got the ball but when you lack players who are able to pass off the dribble then half court sets like this are impossible to execute..

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

Also note, that this Cavs is built in the same blueprint of the championship Bulls teams... Jordan never won with out the following pieces in place and neither will LeBron..

1- Jump shooting guard (JR, Irving) (Kerr, Hodges Paxton)
2- Rim attacker (LeBron) (Jordan)
3-Rebounder specialist (especially offensive rebounds) (Thompson, Love) (Rodman, Grant)
4- Servicable big men (Mozgov)(Longley and the other three headed monsters)
5- 2nd rim attacker (Irving, Shumpert, JR) (Pippen, Hodges)

Not saying the Cavs are the Bulls all I am saying they are using the same format and just like the way to beat the Bulls was with bigger stronger players I feel that playing small will have similar impact as if you tried to go small vs those Bulls teams..

 

[mrJR]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

I said they are not a good defensive team... If you look at them vs teams that have the personnel to exploit their weaknesses they failed..
Let me dumb this down for you, there are two ways games are won and lost,
1- Due to a team out playing or playing better
2- Due to a team not being able to match up against another team..

Now look at this video very well, and look at how the Warriors matched up, and asked yourself what could/should they have done differently...
If you can't see how LeBron was reading their defense and because of the match up deficiencies the Warriors was basically choosing their poison..
The Cavs players knew it, and the game outcome was never in doubt, basically they was playing cat and mouse with them... It looks more like they lost because they couldn't beat them rather than losing just because they had a off night or the Cavs playing much better that day..
To me throw out stats, this is a big red flag that the Warriors have to address..

#1 defense in the league all season and the playoffs but they're not a defensive team? Damn, I try to take your posts serious but you come off as a hater. Give credit where credit is due... is it that hard?

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Warriors, Cavaliers Efficiency In Regular Season / Playoffs...ummm advantage Warr

#1 defense in the league all season and the playoffs but they're not a defensive team? Damn, I try to take your posts serious but you come off as a hater. Give credit where credit is due... is it that hard?

Im not a Bulls fan nor do I hate the Warriors, but check my post, I only made two Warrior predictions and was right about both... That was the Warriors would lose to both the Bulls and the Cavs... This was not based on my love or hate of either teams, but rather style of play..
Its just like I would always pick a team like the Giants to be a team like the old run and gun Warren Moon Oilers, even though I liked those Oilers...
Its in the style of play of both teams..