Do you agree with Bill Simmons greatest NBA player rankings?

[chemist]

Updated Dec. 2010
+/- changes and the previous player from that spot in parenthesis from Oct. 2009
Full List

Level 1: (Partial)

74 - Joe Dumars
73 - Sidney Moncrief
72 - Chris Webber
71 - Lenny Wilkens
70 - David Thompson
69 - Dennis Rodman
68 - Pete Maravich
67 - Earl Monroe
66 - Adrian Dantley
65 - Alex English
64 - Jerry Lucas
63 - Reggie Miller -1 (Ray Allen)
62 - Ray Allen +1 (Reggie Miller)

Level 2:

61 - Bob McAdoo
60 - Nate Archibald
59 - Robert Parish
58 - Bernard King
57 - Tommy Heinsohn
56 - Paul Arizin
55 - Dominique Wilkins
54 - Dennis Johnson -2 (Paul Pierce)
53 - Bill Sharman -2 (Dwyane Wade)
52 - Dolph Schayes -2 (Dennis Johnson)
51 - Elvin Hayes -2 (Bill Sharman)
50 - James Worthy -2 (Dolph Schayes)
49 - Billy Cunningham -2 (Elvin Hayes)
48 - Hal Greer -2 (James Worthy)
47 - Paul Pierce +7 (Billy Cunningham)
46 - Dave DeBusschere -1 (Hal Greer)
45 - Nate Thurmond -1 (Dave DeBusschere)
44 - Clyde Drexler -1 (Nate Thurmond)
43 - Jason Kidd -1 (Clyde Drexler)
42 - Wes Unseld -1 (Jason Kidd)
41 - Gary Payton -1 (Wes Unseld)
40 - Patrick Ewing -1 (Gary Payton)
39 - Dirk Nowitzki -2 (Patrick Ewing)

Level 3:

38 - George Mikan -2 (Steve Nash, Level 2)
37 - Allen Iverson -8 (Dirk Nowitzki, Level 2)
36 - Steve Nash +2 (George Mikan)
35 - Kevin McHale
34 - George Gervin
33 - Sam Jones
32 - Walt Frazier
31 - Dave Cowens
30 - Willis Reed
29 - David Robinson -1 (Allen Iverson)
28 - Dwyane Wade +25 (David Robinson)
27 - Bill Walton
26 - Rick Barry
25 - John Stockton

Level 4:

24 - Scottie Pippen
23 - Isiah Thomas
22 - Kevin Garnett
21 - Bob Cousy
20 - LeBron James
19 - Charles Barkley
18 - Karl Malone
17 - Bob Pettit
16 - Julius Erving
15 - Elgin Baylor -1 (Kobe Bryant)
14 - John Havlicek -1 (Elgin Baylor)

"The Pantheon" (Level 5):

13 - Moses Malone -1 (John Havlicek, Level 4)
12 - Shaquille O'Neal -1 (Moses Malone)
11 - Hakeem Olajuwon -1 (Shaquille O'Neal)
10 - Oscar Robertson -1 (Hakeem Olajuwon)
9 - Jerry West -1 (Oscar Robertson)
8 - Kobe Bryant +7 (Jerry West)
7 - Tim Duncan
6 - Wilt Chamberlain
5 - Larry Bird
4 - Magic Johnson
3 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
2 - Bill Russell
1 - Michael Jordan

 

[Amajorfucup]

Time for Bill to do an update. Number 20 has jumped anywhere from 5 to 10 spots since then.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Swap wade and Barkley and I have no problem

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

i don't know
its impossible to do it you have to do it by position

cause wilt being that low?

oscar don't get the respect and i'm at peace with that.

i need to see the entire criteria for being considered the best before i decide his results are ok.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Time for Bill to do an update. Number 20 has jumped anywhere from 5 to 10 spots since then.

Naw he's perfect where he is

 

[killa kadafi191]

Hornets vs the Magic is on NBA TV

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Hornets vs the Magic is on NBA TV

ill watch the hornets but when the magic get possession im changing the channel

 

[chemist]

i don't know
its impossible to do it you have to do it by position

cause wilt being that low?

oscar don't get the respect and i'm at peace with that.

i need to see the entire criteria for being considered the best before i decide his results are ok.

He's a Boston homer so I'm not surprised that he put Bird ahead of Wilt. Also having McHale that high. Looking at this list I would put him at 44.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Preseason basketball is the worse

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Waiting for the LeBron ball licker to appear and be real pissed off in 10...9...8...7...6...

 

[killa kadafi191]

FUCK NO!!!!! WHERE THE FUCK IS JASON KIDD????????????

Okay with that out of the way. The list isn't bad but when was the list constructed in 2010??

 

[gtg305h]

Lebron's cheering squad gonna be mad at this...

Now watch the comments...

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

He's a Boston homer so I'm not surprised that he put Bird ahead of Wilt. Also having McHale that high. Looking at this list I would put him at 44.

im saying wilt?
do you know who wilt is bill simmons?

 

[ak_rep]

No. For one, I believe KG should be higher on the list.

Hornets vs the Magic is on NBA TV

Tought to watch. But watching.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Niggas really need to stop saying niggas who got 1 ring

This lebron shit got u lil niggas going crazy

Oh and I didn't scroll all the way to number 1

Does he have 11 rings bill Cosby I mean Russell as top dog?

 

[killa kadafi191]

Lebron's cheering squad gonna be mad at this...

Now watch the comments...

Fuck Lebron my favorite player didn't make the list. FUCK BILL SIMMONS!!!!



Let me stop but playing.

Seriously though Steve Nash before Kidd?

 

[Better]

HAHAHHAHAHAHA!

No.


Fuck conventional basketball wisdom, there was no center better than Dream.

Name a PLAYER that finished top ten in four statistical categories?


Hakeem Olajuwon.

Give Dream a top 5 player to play along side - Kareem won rings with two of the best all-around players EVER: Magic and Big O - and he has more than two rings.

Russell is not better than Magic and Kareem. Come the fuck on...

...does playing with no fewer than 5 all stars not enhance one's chances SIGNIFICANTLY of winning multiple championships?

A top five player can't just have rings...

...they have to have beastly stats.

People talk about KOBE being inefficient, but Kobe, A FUCKING TWO GUARD WITH POSSIBLY THE WORST SHOT SELECTION OF ANY TOP 20 PLAYER - has a better career FG percentage.

He grabbed a gang of boards...

...but do your research on how many more shots were taken during than time than today.

Fuck that.

Dream is God.

If anyone finished top 10 in four statistical categories, they'd be called G.O.A.T, but Dream has always suffered from being Muslim, not American born, being dark, and having a heavy accent.

 

[AllState17]

I have a very clear top 3...

MJ
Russell
Jabbar

After that... its up for discussion. Except for the fact that Malone should NOT be in top ten. I dont wanna hear that shit.

 

[toine414]

i thought reggie miller would be a little higher....atleast in lvl 2

 

[Twim3000]

ill watch the hornets but when the magic get possession im changing the channel

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[vandamation]

I would switch Isiah and Barkley... but other than that... I have no problem with it...

 

[curryshotta]

Niggas really need to stop saying niggas who got 1 ring

This lebron shit got u lil niggas going crazy

Oh and I didn't scroll all the way to number 1

Does he have 11 rings bill Cosby I mean Russell as top dog?

you know whats funny....the topic aint even about bron but you have to bring him up......and yet other people are the "stans"

that shit burns your soul


anyway a man has the right to his opinion. Simmons has his reasons why he feels the way he does.

 

[sinsay]

Simmons did that list like 3-4 years ago.

If you read his summary of Lebron in his book (which was a quality read for big NBA fans), he basically acknowledged that he would be moving up in the future.

I'm pretty sure if he did the list again, Lebron would be on the doorstep of the top 10 if not higher after finally winning a championship.

 

[O.J PIMPSON]

Why is Steve Nash ahead of:
Joe Dumars
72 - Chris Webber
71 - Lenny Wilkens
70 - David Thompson
69 - Dennis Rodman
68 - Pete Maravich
67 - Earl Monroe
66 - Adrian Dantley
65 - Alex English
64 - Jerry Lucas
63 - Reggie Miller -1 (Ray Allen)
62 - Ray Allen +1 (Reggie Miller)

Level 2:

61 - Bob McAdoo
60 - Nate Archibald
59 - Robert Parish
58 - Bernard King
57 - Tommy Heinsohn
56 - Paul Arizin
55 - Dominique Wilkins
54 - Dennis Johnson -2 (Paul Pierce)
53 - Bill Sharman -2 (Dwyane Wade)
52 - Dolph Schayes -2 (Dennis Johnson)
51 - Elvin Hayes -2 (Bill Sharman)
50 - James Worthy -2 (Dolph Schayes)
49 - Billy Cunningham -2 (Elvin Hayes)
48 - Hal Greer -2 (James Worthy)
47 - Paul Pierce +7 (Billy Cunningham)
46 - Dave DeBusschere -1 (Hal Greer)
45 - Nate Thurmond -1 (Dave DeBusschere)
44 - Clyde Drexler -1 (Nate Thurmond)
43 - Jason Kidd -1 (Clyde Drexler)
42 - Wes Unseld -1 (Jason Kidd)
41 - Gary Payton -1 (Wes Unseld)
40 - Patrick Ewing -1 (Gary Payton)
39 - Dirk Nowitzki -2 (Patrick Ewing)

Level 3:

38 - George Mikan -2 (Steve Nash, Level 2)
37 - Allen Iverson -8 (Dirk Nowitzki, Level 2)

 

[Jim_Browski]

Wilt should be #1....

 

[curryshotta]

i wish there were more hd clips of bernard king

 

[vandamation]

i wish there were more hd clips of bernard king

Bernard King was a NUT...
Bigger NUT than Kobe...
He's the original... BLACK HOLE...

 

[BDR]

As long as my nigga bob mcadoo in there ion give a fuck

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

FUCK NO!!!!! WHERE THE FUCK IS JASON KIDD????????????

Okay with that out of the way. The list isn't bad but when was the list constructed in 2010??

That Beige Nigga is in rehab at the moment!!!!

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

As long as my nigga bob mcadoo in there ion give a fuck

Need some Iceman too...

 

[knightmelodic]

I can't go through the whole thing but no way Clyde isn't in the top 20 over Shaq and anybody who knows anything about b-ball knows Wilt was the best ever.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I can't go through the whole thing but no way Clyde isn't in the top 20 over Shaq and anybody who knows anything about b-ball knows Wilt was the best ever.

 

[curryshotta]

That Beige Nigga is in rehab at the moment!!!!

wait hol up?

he is injured already?

 

[killa kadafi191]

Why is Steve Nash ahead of:
Joe Dumars
72 - Chris Webber
71 - Lenny Wilkens
70 - David Thompson
69 - Dennis Rodman
68 - Pete Maravich
67 - Earl Monroe
66 - Adrian Dantley
65 - Alex English
64 - Jerry Lucas
63 - Reggie Miller -1 (Ray Allen)
62 - Ray Allen +1 (Reggie Miller)

Level 2:

61 - Bob McAdoo
60 - Nate Archibald
59 - Robert Parish
58 - Bernard King
57 - Tommy Heinsohn
56 - Paul Arizin
55 - Dominique Wilkins
54 - Dennis Johnson -2 (Paul Pierce)
53 - Bill Sharman -2 (Dwyane Wade)
52 - Dolph Schayes -2 (Dennis Johnson)
51 - Elvin Hayes -2 (Bill Sharman)
50 - James Worthy -2 (Dolph Schayes)
49 - Billy Cunningham -2 (Elvin Hayes)
48 - Hal Greer -2 (James Worthy)
47 - Paul Pierce +7 (Billy Cunningham)
46 - Dave DeBusschere -1 (Hal Greer)
45 - Nate Thurmond -1 (Dave DeBusschere)
44 - Clyde Drexler -1 (Nate Thurmond)
43 - Jason Kidd -1 (Clyde Drexler)
42 - Wes Unseld -1 (Jason Kidd)
41 - Gary Payton -1 (Wes Unseld)
40 - Patrick Ewing -1 (Gary Payton)
39 - Dirk Nowitzki -2 (Patrick Ewing)

Level 3:

38 - George Mikan -2 (Steve Nash, Level 2)
37 - Allen Iverson -8 (Dirk Nowitzki, Level 2)

Wait GP is ahead of Kidd???????????????

 

[Les W]

1. Kareem
2. Wilt
3. Jordan
4. Russell
5. Magic
6. Duncan or Kobe