Hugo Chavez & Term Limits

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i'm posting this to be critiqued by the board and to provide a frame of reference that states the reforms in consideration, the aims of those reforms, as well as the electoral procedures used in the emplementation of them. please comment as you feel inclined.

Constitutional Reforms in Venezuela
Embassy of Venezuela in US
October 26th, 2007
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/2764

On August 15, 2007, Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez proposed a number of reforms to the 1999 Constitution. Focusing on a small segment of the constitution’s 350 articles, the reforms aim to speed the redistribution of the country’s resources to benefit the poor and widen the base of direct citizen participation in the democratic process. They are also intended to move Venezuela towards a new model of development – known as “Socialism for the 21st Century” – in peace and democracy. This model embraces participatory democracy, a mixed economy, meeting the country’s social needs and promoting a multi-polar world.

History

In 1999, the Venezuelan people overwhelmingly voted to install a constituent assembly with the express purpose of re-writing the country’s constitution. As part of an attempt to break with the past and create an equitable and fully representative democratic system, citizens, community groups and civic associations actively provided input regarding necessary changes. Of the 624 proposals the Venezuelan people submitted, over 50 percent were eventually included as part of the new constitution’s 350 articles.

The resulting 1999 Constitution expanded the rights of all Venezuelans, formally recognized the rights and privileges of historically marginalized groups, reorganized government institutions and powers, and highlighted the government’s responsibility in working towards participatory democracy and social justice. In a national referendum, 71 percent of the Venezuelan people voted to adopt the new constitution.

Copies of the 1999 Constitution are widely available in Venezuela, and even more widely read. According to one journalist’s account, “You can buy a plastic-bound copy of the Venezuelan Constitution for 60 cents, a leather-clad copy for $3, a coffee-table edition for $5. Not that you really need a copy of your own, since someone standing near you on the subway in Caracas will have one in his pocket. Or you can always listen to one of the ongoing debates at a downtown park. ‘Look at this article,’ someone will shout, and a half dozen people will flip through the constitution's 35,000 words and 350 articles to find the pertinent passage. ‘Yes,’ someone else will cry out. ‘But this one here is more to the point.’”

Democratic Process

According to Article 342 of the constitution, the National Assembly, the president or 15 percent of registered voters – roughly 2.5 million voters – can propose reforms to the constitution. The proposals must be debated by the National Assembly in three rounds – the first round began on August 21 – and voted upon with a two-thirds majority, after which they will be put before the Venezuelan people in a national referendum.

On October 25, the National Assembly completed the third round of debates on the proposed reforms. On top of the three rounds of debates, members of the National Assembly had also traveled throughout Venezuela to discuss the proposed reforms with community groups, civic organizations, opposition activists and regular citizens. From August 16 to October 7, some 9,020 public events – over 192 a day for 47 days – were held throughout the country to provide information and take citizen input on the constitutional reforms. Similarly, a special hotline established by the National Assembly took over 80,000 phone calls – over 1,700 a day for 47 days – in which Venezuelan citizens were able to offer critiques of the proposed reforms or offer reforms of their own. Additionally, the National Assembly distributed 10 million copies of the proposed reforms to interested citizens. Due to those combined efforts, 77.8 percent of the Venezuelan people reported having read and being informed about the reforms.

Based on the national process of consultations with the Venezuelan people, 25 additional reforms were proposed and 11 smaller changes were made, for a total of 69 proposed reforms. The proposed changes will be sent to the National Electoral Council on November 2, and a national referendum will be scheduled for early December 2007 will allow the Venezuelan to either approve or reject the reforms.

Reform of Presidential Term Limits

Article 230 of the 1999 Constitution establishes that the presidential term limit will be of six years and that any president can be re-elected once. Under the proposed reform, the presidential term would be extended to seven years and any sitting president would be allowed to seek another consecutive term.

The purpose of the reform is to allow the wishes and preferences of the voters to be fully respected when it comes to electing a president. As President Dwight Eisenhower noted in 1956 in reference to debate over presidential term limits in the U.S., “The United States ought to be able to choose for its President anybody it wants, regardless of the number of terms he has served.” More recently, in 2005 Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and Rep. James Sensennbrenner (R-Wisc.) introduced legislation to do away with presidential term limits. In reference to the legislation, H.J. Res. 24, Hoyer, who now serves as the Majority Leader in the U.S. House of Representatives, stated, “I feel there are good public policy reasons for a repeal of [term limits]…Under the Constitution as altered by the 22nd Amendment, this must be President George W. Bush's last term even if the American people should want him to continue in office. This is an undemocratic result.”

While this reform has been criticized as being undemocratic, it is important to note that various mechanisms will remain in place to ensure that the country’s president is legitimately elected and held to account by the Venezuelan people. The president will still face re-election, and the recall referendum – an innovative democratic tool that allows voters to cut short an elected officials’ term – will remain in the constitution. It’s worth noting that the recall referendum was successfully activated by members of the opposition in August 2004, when 60 percent of the Venezuelan people voted to allow President Chávez to finish his first full term in office.

Economic Reforms

During the last three years Venezuela has seen consistent and record economic growth and diversification. More importantly, new forms of economic activity, business and entrepreneurship have been facilitated, allowing more Venezuelans productive opportunities. A number of proposed reforms to articles 112, 113, and 115 of the constitution would expand upon these initiatives and formalize an economic model centered on social welfare and a diverse range of enterprises.

Article 112 currently guarantees the freedom of all Venezuelans to engage in economic activity, while mandating that the government promote private enterprises that “create and guarantee the just distribution of wealth” and direct economic activity towards the integral development of the country. The proposed reform would mandate that the government work to secure an economic system that is “diversified and independent” and founded on the “human values of cooperation and the preponderance of the general interest.” The reform would expand the scope of economic activity to not only include private enterprise, but also socially oriented, cooperative and community-based models of activity.

Article 113 currently states that economic monopolies will not be permitted. The proposed reform would formally prohibit economic monopolies and other actions to concentrate economic power or resources. Moreover, the reform would mandate that the government protect socially oriented, cooperative and community-based models of economic activity – the number of cooperatives has increased from 800 to over 180,000 in recent years – and would formalize the government’s ability to exploit the country’s natural resources for the general good. Private enterprises would still be allowed to exploit natural resources, though in conjunction with government enterprises.

Article 115 currently articulates the right to private property, while stating that any property may be taken by the government if just cause – the public good – is given and adequate compensation granted. The proposed reform would leave the right to and protection of private property unchanged while adding a number of new classifications of property. According to the reform, property not held in private hands can be classified as follows:

* Public: Fully owned and managed by the government.
* Social: Owned by the Venezuelan people and either managed by the government or by communities or other institutions.
* Collective: Owned and managed by groups of individuals for their particular uses.
* Mixed: A combination of ownership and management.

It is important to stress that private property will remain and will enjoy the same protections it enjoys in other countries. As detailed by the constitution and similar to the U.S. and Western Europe, private property would only be taken by the government only if the public good requires it and if full compensation is offered. As an example, past processes of land reform have shifted over 8.8 million acres of unused lands to poor families, but in the case of private lands, only with due compensation. Similarly, when the government announced its intention to nationalize the electric and telecommunications sectors, they paid the market value of the two industries.

Reform of the Central Bank of Venezuela

Key to long-term growth and stability in Venezuela are the policies of the Central Bank of Venezuela, an institution charged with setting monetary policy and interest rates. Central Bank policies over the last decades, though, have limited economic growth and social development, a trend a proposed reform seeks to correct.

Article 318 details the responsibilities, rights and structure of the Central Bank of Venezuela. The proposed reform would mandate that the Central Bank and the executive, through the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Planning and Development, more closely coordinate efforts to implement policies that promote economic growth and development. The reform would also limit the bank’s autonomy while putting the country’s reserves under the control of both the Central Bank and the executive branch for the purpose of promoting “productive investments, development and infrastructure, financing of social programs and integral, endogenous and humanistic development.” This reform will be an extension of a reform first made in 2005 that successfully allowed excess reserves – initially some $6 billion – to be directed to social programs and infrastructure through the Fund for National Development (FONDEN in Spanish).

While Central Banks have traditionally been insulated from the governments they serve, this reform is vital to Venezuela’s continued economic growth and development. As Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz has argued, the many tradeoffs involved in crafting monetary policy and promoting economic growth in developing countries “cannot be relegated to technocrats, particularly when those technocrats place the interests of one segment of society above others.” Historically, the central banks of the region have maintained high interest rates and adopted policies that overvalued the currency, thus limiting borrowing and investing (and, as a consequence, economic growth) and making imports artificially cheap and exports too expensive on world markets. The reform intends to allow better coordination between the executive and the Central Bank so as to guarantee policies that secure sustained economic growth, job creation and social development while maintaining sustainable levels of inflation.

Political-Territorial Reforms

Like every other country in the world, Venezuela’s political and territorial boundaries are divided into a number of categories – nation, state, municipalities and a federal district. A number of proposed reforms would expand and clarify these political-territorial boundaries. These reforms would further decentralize political power, thus allowing communities the ability and resources to participate in democratic processes and employ national resources to identify and resolve local problems. They would also ensure that areas that have remained underdeveloped due to location and lack of infrastructure are better incorporated into national and regional development schemes.

Article 16 currently defines the country’s political-territorial boundaries, including states, municipalities, a federal district, federal territories and federal dependencies. Under the proposed reform, these boundaries would remain in place and be fully respected, but would also be complemented by the addition of maritime regions, insular districts and cities. Within the latter, smaller units named “communes” would be granted formal recognition, thus allowing more active participation in municipal affairs by individuals and community organizations. The reform would also allow certain areas – those suffering from a lack of development and poor infrastructure – to be designated federal provinces, federal cities or functional districts in which the government would be allowed to more easily direct necessary resources for development.

Article 184 currently encourages the implementation of a law to direct municipalities to provide resources and services to those community and neighborhood organizations that request them. The proposed reform mandates that a national law be debated and passed articulating this transfer of resources and services, which include housing, sport, culture, environment, political participation, social economy and endogenous development, job creation and other resources and services currently handled by municipal bodies. The national law would also create a fund to provide resources to projects identified by communal councils.

Military Reforms

Three reforms of articles related to the armed forces are aimed at further securing Venezuela’s territorial integrity, bringing all branches under a unified command structure and better allowing the fight against drug trafficking and other illegal activities.

The proposed reform of Article 11 would include mention of Venezuela’s maritime possessions (some 270,000 square miles) in the definition of its sovereign territory, while allowing the executive to declare “Special Military Regions” for the purposes of national defense or strategic activity (fighting drug trafficking and international crime) and better protection of border and/or remote areas. The proposed reform of Article 329 would list the branches of the Venezuelan armed services as the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Territorial Guard and the Popular Militia (formerly the National Reserves). While the National Reserves used to be governed by a national law regulating the armed forces, the new Popular Militia will be governed by the constitution and under the same command as the other branches of the armed forces. Finally, the armed forces would be renamed the Bolivarian Armed Forces in reference of Simon Bolivar, Venezuela’s independence hero.

Limitations on Rights During Emergencies

During the second round of debates, the National Assembly proposed a reform to article 337 of the constitution that would call for the suspension of certain political liberties during what is known as a “state of exception,” or national emergency. Articles 240 and 241 of the 1961 Constitution similarly included limitations on civil and political rights during times of national emergency.

While this reform has been criticized, it is fully consistent with similar powers granted to democratic governments around the world. Since the time of the French revolution, governments have recognized that during moments of massive disasters or extreme and imminent threats to the standing and security of the nation additional and temporary powers could be claimed by the executive to restore order. Currently a number of Western democracies have laws outlining the imposition of a state of exception or a state of emergency, including Australia, Canada, France, Ireland, Spain and the United Kingdom. In the United States, the 1976 National Emergencies Act allows the president to invoke a state of emergency and limit certain rights – including the right of habeas corpus – for up to two years. There were 32 declared national emergencies between 1976 and 2001.

Moreover, international law recognizes the right of governments to limit certain rights in extreme circumstances. Article 4 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which Venezuela ratified on August 10, 1978, notes, “In time of public emergency which threatens the life of the nation and the existence of which is officially proclaimed, the States Parties to the present Covenant may take measures derogating from their obligations under the present Covenant.”

While the reform of Article 337 calls for the limitation of certain rights during a national emergency, a number of rights would remain, including the right to life and personal integrity, the right to a defense, the right to a fair trial, and the right not to be tortured, disappeared or held incommunicado. This ensures that Venezuela remains consistent – or in some cases even exceeds -- with its international obligations.

Other Reforms

When Venezuela’s Constituent Assembly re-wrote the constitution in 1999, a large proportion of the articles focused on granting new rights or expanding their application to groups that had been historically marginalized. All told, 111 of the constitution’s 350 articles deal with political, economic, social and cultural rights. Many of the proposed reforms seek to deepen the protection and promotion of certain rights and liberties:

* The proposed reform of Article 21 would add sexual orientation and health to the categories under which discrimination is prohibited.
* The proposed reform of Article 64 would lower the voting age to 16, following the lead of Austria, Nicaragua and Brazil.
* The proposed reform of Article 82 would codify the right the adequate housing for all Venezuelans and prohibit the state from taking any home as part of a judicial sanction.
* The proposed reform of Article 87 would call for the creation of a social security fund for those Venezuelans that are self-employed or in the informal sector.
* The proposed reform of Article 90 would decrease the workweek from 44 hours to 36 hours.
* The proposed reform of Article 98 would protect the creation and communication of cultural goods.
* The proposed reform of Article 100 would formally recognize and protect Afro-Venezuelan heritage and culture.
* The proposed reform of Article 103 would articulate the right to education for all Venezuelans, and mandate that all public education through university be free of charge.
* The proposed reform of Article 158 would mandate that the government take all steps to ensure the active participation of the citizenry in the country’s democratic system.
* The proposed reform of Article 272 would establish that the Venezuelan penitentiary system direct its efforts towards the full rehabilitation of prisoners and respect their human rights during incarceration.

Conclusion

Just as the 1999 Constitution was written with massive and widespread participation and input from the Venezuelan people, the proposed reforms have been widely discussed and debated. Additionally, in early December, the Venezuelan people will have the opportunity to vote the reforms up or down in a national referendum. These reforms will better allow Venezuela to create a political, economic and social system that is equitable, peaceful and democratic.
 

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Chavez’s bluster surges ahead of vote​

Some observers link Venezuelan
leader's tough talk with tight contest​


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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez waves to
supporters as he arrives at a rally in Caracas
on Friday. Voters on Sunday will decide whether
to do away with term limits and enact other
constitutional reforms that would bolster Chavez.


Washington Post
By Juan Forero
Fri., Nov. 30, 2007
CARACAS, Venezuela -

On the eve of a referendum that President Hugo Chavez has cast as a plebiscite on his rule, the populist leader is escalating his verbal assaults on foes real and imagined, picking a fight with neighboring Colombia one day and assailing Catholic Church leaders as "mental retards" the next.

Chavez's behavior appears increasingly unpredictable, but some political analysts say the bluster may be a tactic designed to generate support for the constitutional changes that Venezuelans will vote on in Sunday's referendum. Although a few weeks ago the proposals had been expected to receive easy approval, polls released last week showed that the opposition could ultimately prevail in a tight contest.

"He's decided that his best tactic to recover the control of his movement is to instill fear in his people that there's a world conspiracy against Venezuela," said Demetrio Boersner, a political analyst and former diplomat. "It's a tactic that uses histrionics as a weapon to unite the people so they vote for him on Sunday."

Allegations of meddling
The government says the rhetoric is no scare tactic, but rather a response to concerns that a destabilization plan is in the works. Officials point to negative press coverage, coupled with the Bush administration's statements questioning the fairness of the vote.

"There's an offensive to criminalize Venezuela, to say that Venezuela is falling into an abyss, that it's a country of dictators, of Castro-style communism, a country that helps terrorists," Bernardo Alvarez, Venezuela's ambassador in Washington, said Friday in a phone interview.

This week Chavez accused CNN of instigating an assassination attempt, asserted that the church is fomenting dissent and called the president of neighboring Colombia a "liar" who couldn't be trusted. He didn't forget the United States, either, saying the CIA was busy hatching a plan to stir tumult.

In speech after speech, Chavez avoids dwelling on unpopular proposals for change, including one that would permit him to run for office indefinitely and another that would give him the power to appoint provincial governors. Instead, he depicts his opponents as conspirators out to crush his self-styled revolution. He vows to thwart any coup attempts, like one in 2002 that briefly ousted him and had Washington's tacit support.

"The revolution is peaceful, but it's not unarmed," he warned his foes on state television. "There's an army. There's a navy. There's an air force. There's a national guard. There's soldiers, there's cadets and the people. Don't consider it, because you'll repent."

He then added: "If you launch an offensive, I will launch a counterattack."

Rhetoric wearing thin?
The harangues are a staple of Chavez's government, which in its nine years has transformed Venezuela's social and political model by ousting the elites who once ruled and providing widespread programs for the poor. Those programs have given Chavez solid, sometimes overwhelming support.

But some analysts say the particularly bellicose behavior of recent days may be working against Chavez.

Mark Feierstein, an American who has polled in Venezuela for years, said the president's supporters, known as Chavistas, also tire of the rhetoric.

"Venezuela is one of the most polarized countries in the world, and it really pains people when they see him reinforcing that," Feierstein said. "When we'd do focus groups with Chavistas, they would talk in mostly positive tones about Chavez, but the one thing that would bother them is Chavez's belligerence."

Feuding near and far
The president's behavior has been making international headlines since early this month when, at a summit in Chile, he called former Spanish prime minister José María Aznar a "fascist." After a long diatribe by Chavez, the king of Spain, Juan Carlos, became so agitated that he leaned across a table and said to the Venezuelan: "Why don't you shut up?"

Chavez has not paid heed. He also hasn't forgotten -- or forgiven. He later declared that relations with Spain, a major investor in Venezuela, would be "frozen" until the king apologized. The king has yet to do so.

"There will not be a million kings who will want to keep my mouth shut, because I speak in the name of Venezuela," Chavez later said.

Then, after President Álvaro Uribe of Colombia last week ended Chavez's role in mediations with that country's guerrilla group, Chavez said that Uribe's actions were "brutal" and disrespectful of Venezuela -- even if Chavez had sidestepped diplomatic protocol, as Uribe contended.

Chavez withdrew his ambassador from Bogota and, in televised comments Wednesday, said Uribe was capable of "barefaced lies." "If he does that to me," Chavez said, "imagine how he is with the poor Colombian people."

lleged toilet-paper tampering
In the closing days of campaigning for the referendum, with the government holding huge rallies, officials have continued to warn of anti-Chavez plots that could originate in the church or the business community.

Indeed, the authorities said they were going to investigate church leaders as well as CNN, which came under criticism after placing a caption reading, "Who Killed Him?" on a photograph of Chavez. The network said the caption was an error, designed for a story about the investigation into the murder of Washington Redskins player Sean Taylor.

On Friday, a day when an estimated 200,000 people in Caracas rallied in support of Chavez, officials saw yet one more possible sign of conspiracy. Toilet paper is in short supply -- as are milk, eggs and other staples.

"We know there are sectors hiding toilet paper," Finance Minister Rodrigo Cabezas said on state television. "A group of business leaders are playing mean, playing dirty." He said it was designed to "create the sensation of product shortage during the election."

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Chavez: No oil if U.S. meddles in vote​

Venezuelan leader urges citizens to approve constitutional change

Associated Press
Fri., Nov. 30, 2007

CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez urged supporters Friday to approve constitutional changes that he said could keep him in power for life and threatened to cut off oil exports to the United States if it tries to meddle in Sunday’s vote.

Speaking to more than 200,000 supporters, Chavez warned that his opponents at home could try to sabotage the vote with backing from Washington through violent protests on the night of the vote.

“If ’yes’ wins on Sunday and the Venezuelan oligarchy, the violent Venezuelans — the ones who play the (U.S.) empire’s game — unleash violence with the tale that there was fraud ... minister, that very Monday you order a halt to the shipments of oil to the United States,” Chavez said, addressing his oil minister, Rafael Ramirez.

“Oil will not go out to the United States,” Chavez said, warning the opposition if they take to streets to deny a legitimate victory, “they’re going to regret it.”

Venezuela was the fourth largest oil exporter to the United States in 2006.

His opponents have called for close monitoring of results in what they expect to be a tight contest, raising tensions ahead of a vote on sweeping changes to the constitution that would left Chavez seek re-election in 2012 and indefinitely.

“If God gives me life and help,” Chavez said, “I will be at the head of the government until 2050!” — when he would be 95 years old.

“To the Venezuelan oligarchy and the U.S. empire, from here I’m warning them that they won’t be able to stop the car of the Bolivarian Revolution, because on Sunday we will approve the constitutional reform,” Chavez said.

There were no independent crowd estimates, but reporters estimated the crowd at more than 200,000.

Some polls predict close vote
The government cites polls showing Chavez leading ahead of the referendum, while other polls have predicted a close race.

Pollster Luis Vicente Leon, whose firm Datanalisis found the “no” option leading in a poll earlier this month, said Friday that two other later tracking polls by his firm found Chavez had closed the gap and the two sides were statistically about even.

“We don’t know who’s going to win,” Leon said. “The result will depend on the level of abstention that ends up happening. Whoever has the greatest weight to achieve turnout among their voters at the polls is going to win.”

In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the United States hopes the referendum will be “a free and fair contest in which the will and desire of the Venezuelan people is reflected.”

Chavez seeks world power status
Speaking to the crowd from a stage, Chavez said: “Venezuela is going to be a world power, no matter whom it hurts!”

The pro-Chavez rally came a day after opposition supporters filled the same avenue promising to defeat revisions that would also extend presidential terms from six to seven years, create new forms of communal property and expand Chavez’s powers to reshape Venezuela as a socialist state.

“Chavez has become a father for us,” said Xiomi Diaz, a 34-year-old farmer. “He’s a father of the poor.” She and others traveled from across the country in hundreds of buses, and chanted: “Ooh, Ah! Chavez isn’t going anywhere!”

Critics decry proposals
Chavez, who was first elected in 1998, denies he is trying to amass power, saying the changes are necessary to give the people a greater voice in government and to move toward a socialist system.

Human Rights Watch warned the reforms would threaten fundamental rights, citing one revision allowing the president to declare indefinite states of emergency during which the government could detain citizens without charge and censor the media.

“These amendments would enable President Chavez to suspend basic rights indefinitely by maintaining a perpetual state of emergency,” said Jose Miguel Vivanco of the New York-based group.

Chavez’s opponents also have questioned the National Electoral Council’s impartiality, especially after Chavez named its former chief, Jorge Rodriguez, as his vice president in January. But in contrast to past elections, when the opposition has boycotted votes or been split on whether to participate, this time many opposition leaders are emboldened and urging voters to turn out in large numbers.

Violent clashes during protests
University students have led protests and occasionally clashed with police and Chavista groups. One man was shot dead Monday while trying to get through a road blocked by protesters.

The opposition also has been heartened by some recent defections from Chavez’s movement, including former Defense Minister Gen. Raul Baduel. Even Chavez’s ex-wife, Marisabel Rodriguez, has urged Venezuelans to vote “no.”

About 100 electoral observers from 39 countries in Latin America, Europe and the United States are on hand, plus hundreds of Venezuelan observers, the National Electoral Council said.

Yet, absent this time are the Organization of American States and the European Union, which have monitored past votes.

Among those attending are observers from the National Lawyers Guild and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

Chavez’s opponents have been suspicious of electronic voting machines made by Boca Raton, Florida-based Smartmatic Inc., which is primarily owned by three Venezuelans. But Luis Enrique Lander of the Venezuelan vote-monitoring group Ojo Electoral said his team is satisfied with vote preparations and safeguards.

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CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- Humbled by his first electoral defeat ever, President Hugo Chavez said Monday he may have been too ambitious in asking voters to let him stand indefinitely for re-election and endorse a huge leap to a socialist state.

"I understand and accept that the proposal I made was quite profound and intense," he said after voters narrowly rejected the sweeping constitutional reforms by 51 percent to 49 percent.

Opposition activists were ecstatic as the results were announced shortly after midnight - with 88 percent of the vote counted, the trend was declared irreversible by elections council chief Tibisay Lucena.

Some shed tears. Others began chanting: "And now he's going away!"

Foes of the reform effort - including Roman Catholic leaders, media freedom groups, human rights groups and prominent business leaders - said it would have granted Chavez unchecked power and imperiled basic rights.

Chavez told reporters at the presidential palace that the outcome of Sunday's balloting had taught him that "Venezuelan democracy is maturing." His respect for the verdict, he asserted, proves he is a true democratic leader.

"From this moment on, let's be calm," he proposed, asking for no more street violence like the clashes that marred pre-vote protests. "There is no dictatorship here."

A senior U.S. official hailed Chavez's referendum defeat Monday as a victory for the country's citizens who want to preserve democracy and prevent Chavez from having unchecked power.

"We felt that this referendum would make Chavez president for life, and that's not ever a welcome development," U.S. Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns told reporters in Singapore. "In a country that wants to be a democracy, the people spoke, and the people spoke for democracy and against unlimited power."

Chavez, who was briefly ousted in a failed 2002 coup, blamed the loss on low turnout among the very supporters who re-elected him a year ago with 63 percent of the vote.

Seven in 10 eligible voters cast ballots then. This time it was just 56 percent.

The defeated reform package would have created new types of communal property, let Chavez handpick local leaders under a redrawn political map and suspended civil liberties during extended states of emergency. Without the overhaul, Chavez will be barred from running again in 2012.

Other changes would have shortened the workday from eight hours to six, created a social security fund for millions of informal laborers and promoted communal councils where residents decide how to spend government funds.

Nelly Hernandez, a 37-year-old street vendor, cried as she wandered outside the presidential palace early Monday amid broken beer bottles as government workers took apart a stage mounted earlier for a victory fete.

"It's difficult to accept this, but Chavez has not abandoned us, he'll still be there for us," she said between sobs.

A close ally of Cuba's Fidel Castro, Chavez has redistributed more oil wealth than past Venezuelan leaders, and also has aided Latin American allies - including Bolivia, Ecuador and Nicaragua - that have followed Venezuela's turn to the left.

"He is a man who feels for the people, a man who has suffered, a man who comes from below," Carlos Orlando Vega, a 47-year-old carpenter's assistant, said outside a polling station in a Caracas slum on Sunday.

Vega is among tens of thousands of Venezuelans who, under Chavez, have new government-provided homes.

Chavez urged calm and restraint after his Sunday setback.

"I wouldn't have wanted that Pyrrhic victory," he said, suggesting a small margin wouldn't have been enough of a mandate.

Tensions surged in the weeks ahead of Sunday's vote, with university students leading protests and occasionally clashing with police and Chavista groups.

Chavez had warned opponents against inciting violence before the vote, and threatened to cut off oil exports to the United States if the Bush administration interfered.

Chavez, 53, also suffered some high-profile defections by political allies, including former defense minister Gen. Raul Baduel.

Early Monday, Baduel reminded fellow Venezuelans that Chavez still wields special decree powers thanks to a pliant National Assembly packed with his supporters.

"These results can't be recognized as a victory," Baduel told reporters,

Baduel, who as defense minister helped Chavez turn back the 2002 putsch, said Venezuela can only be properly united by convening a popularly elected assembly to rewrite its constitution.

Chavez has progressively steamrolled a fractured opposition since he was first elected in 1998, and his allies now control most elected posts.

At opposition headquarters in an affluent east Caracas district, jubilant Chavez foes sang the national anthem.

"This reform was about democracy or totalitarian socialism, and democracy won," said opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez said.

"At least now we have the guarantee that Chavez will leave power," said Valeria Aguirre, a 22-year-old student who had braved tear gas during street protests.

Lucena, the electoral agency chief, called the vote "the calmest we've had in the last 10 years."

All was reported calm during Sunday's voting but 45 people were detained, most for committing ballot-related crimes like "destroying electoral materials," said Gen. Jesus Gonzalez, chief of a military command overseeing security.

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Associated Press writers Ian James, Edison Lopez, Fabiola Sanchez, Jorge Rueda, Christopher Toothaker and Sandra Sierra contributed to this report.

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doesnt sound like how Hitler or Stalin would have done it eewwll
 

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<font size="5"><center>Has defeat at the polls deterred Chávez?</font size></center>

Miami Herald
BY MARIFELI PEREZ-STABLE
mps_opinion@comcast.net
January 31, 2007

Hugo Chávez is all over the place. One day, he's basking in the release of two Colombian women held hostage by the FARC for years. The next he's asking Alvaro Uribe's government to grace the narcoguerrillas with ''belligerent status,'' a nonstarter if there ever was one. A few days later, he's sounding the alarm on an imminent aggression from Colombia.

At home, Venezuela's president is also perambulant. ''Review, rectification and relaunch'' are his new-found callings. Cabinet reshuffles, an amnesty to political opponents and a belated recognition of the business sector as ''part of the nation'' suggest nascent steps toward moderation.

At the same time, Chávez has hinted at a possible recall referendum in 2010 along with a constitutional amendment on indefinite reelection. Then again, he might ask the National Assembly -- mostly in his grip -- to enact such an amendment. Never mind that the Assembly can only make minor constitutional changes, and indefinite reelection doesn't qualify.

Chávez is still smarting from the Dec. 2 No vote, which citizens cast largely to keep him from a lifetime presidency. He'd grown so accustomed to winning elections that he never countenanced losing. After berating the three million citizens who voted for him in the 2006 presidential election but failed to show up at the polls two months ago, Chávez appears to have taken some stock of his defeat.

Appearances, however, can be deceiving. Are his cabinet changes a move from radicalism to moderation? Maybe. Yet, might not competence be a better litmus test? The new ministers best the old ones, which isn't saying much. There is, moreover, no indication of a willingness to change at least some stripes to address the concerns that kept three million erstwhile Chavistas from the polls on Dec. 2: inflation, insecurity and corruption.

Take inflation. With price controls in effect, Chávez recently announced an increase in milk prices to spur production. Concurrently, he threatened producers with confiscation if output doesn't rise or if they export milk to reap better prices. Price controls without an expiration date spell inflation and, consequently, disaster. If there's a serious reconsideration of Chavismo's macroeconomic policy going on, it's a well-kept secret.

Similarly, the amnesty -- in principle, laudable -- is mostly smoke and mirrors since it doesn't apply to political opponents who live abroad or to those responsible for the deaths that occurred during the failed coup of April 2, 2002. Yet, a 1994 amnesty pardoned and freed Chávez and his cohorts, even though their attempts to overthrow the government in 1992 resulted in even more fatalities.

Chávez, no doubt, faces serious challenges. The No brought to the fore tensions within Chavismo which will not be easily reconciled. Can those who want to advance the ''revolution'' as if Dec. 2 never happened and those who want to consolidate and regroup before moving forward find middle ground? Will local and regional Chavistas now be emboldened to assert their independence from Chávez?

Though hardly out, Chávez has lost the aura of invincibility that had bolstered his leadership. If, indeed, he's to leave the presidency in 2013, Chávez's powers of persuasion will quickly diminish.

His supporters, for example, may be tempted to fend for themselves in October's municipal and regional elections. Even if Chavistas win most contests, Chavismo will not likely have the stranglehold it has today which is tantamount to a loss.

Until Dec. 2, the ni-ni sector -- citizens who are neither with the government nor the opposition -- largely broke for Chávez at the polls. To win them back, Chavismo would have to quickly metamorphose into social democracy. One in a million, I'd say. False alarms about a war with Colombia and recalcitrant insistence on indefinite reelection confirm No voters of the rightfulness of their choice.

On Jan. 23, eight opposition parties agreed to field unity candidates in October. Podemos -- a party formerly allied with the government -- will put forward its own slates. Two other parties once supportive of Chávez will likewise unite for those elections. Good news, indeed. Still, we shouldn't forget that Dec. 2 was Chávez's to lose, and he did. The opposition has yet to win.

Marifeli Pérez-Stable is vice president for democratic governance at the Inter-American Dialogue in Washington, D.C., and a professor at Florida International University.

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Both sides predicting victory in
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McClatchy Newspapers
By Tyler Bridges
Sunday, November 23, 2008


CARACAS - Supporters and opponents of President Hugo Chavez were both expected to claim victory in state and local elections in Venezuela Sunday that will determine his next moves at home and abroad.

Analysts have predicted a divided result: opposition parties will win more governor's races than the two they captured four years ago, but Chavez's candidates will claim a majority of the 22 races.

An exit poll by a pro-Chavez group - released shortly after polls closed at 4 p.m. Sunday -- showed opposition parties winning only a single race. Exit polls by opposition parties showed them winning more.

In a sign of possible problems for Chavez that buoyed opposition forces, officials with the government national election board sought to keep open voting stations past the 4 p.m. deadline even where no more people were in line to vote.

Chavez has signaled that he wants a mandate to seek public approval early next year to abolish term limits so he can seek another six-year term in 2012.

He lost a similar referendum one year ago, his only electoral defeat in 10 years as president.

Chavez also seeks a mandate to further his "21st Century Socialist Revolution" so he can nationalize more companies and give him and his followers more political power.

Chavez also hopes to strengthen his role as Latin America's most powerful leader in the post-Castro era. As a measure of this, he will host Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in Caracas on Wednesday in a meeting of two oil-rich nations that have testy relations with the United States.

Opposition forces are hoping to build upon last year's referendum victory to thwart Chavez's grand ambitions.

Chavez criss-crossed Venezuela over the past two months, using the full force of his government to push for his 22 candidates for governor and 328 candidates for mayor.

State television and radio stations broadcast pro-Chavez ads, and government officials handed out free refrigerators, washing machines and mattresses in poor neighborhoods.

In one key race, Chavez's older brother, Adan, is running to replace their father as governor of Barinas, the western plains state that is home turf for the Chavez clan. Two of Chavez's brothers hold public jobs in Barinas while two others have contracts to do business with the state.

Accusations that the Chavez family during its 10 years in power has built mansions and bought ranches have given Barinas Mayor Julio Cesar Reyes a fighting chance to inflict a symbolic defeat of President Chavez.

In Barquisimeto, a city in western Venezuela, Chavez's ex-wife Marisabel Rodriguez was running for mayor on an anti-Chavez platform.

At one voting center in a Caracas slum, two dozen pro-Chavez voters didn't identify the local candidates by name when asked whom they supported.

"For the revolutionary process," said Yumelis Montano, a 47-year-old seamstress. "It is going well."

Montano, like almost all of the other pro-Chavez voters, cited government assistance as the reason for her vote. Montano has received free medicine from Cuban doctors who work in poor neighborhoods in a program created thanks to Chavez's close relationship with Cuba.

At a more upscale Caracas neighborhood, Magaly Rodriguez, a retired government worker, called Chavez a "demagogue, a liar, a person taking us backward," when she explained why she voted for the opposition slate.

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<font size="5"><center>Hugo Chavez allies score big wins
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McClatchy Newspapers
By Tyler Bridges
November 23, 2008


CARACAS — President Hugo Chavez's candidates won a majority of the governor's elections in Venezuela on Sunday, but opposition forces could point to gains with victories in several major states as well as the capital city, Caracas.

Both sides declared victory.

"The people are telling me, 'Chavez, continue down the same road, the road of socialism,' " Chavez said early Monday just after the main results were announced.

But he also acknolwedged the opposition's advance. "We have to carry out a self-criticism where that's necessary.

The stakes were high because the election results will determine Chavez's next moves at home and abroad.

Chavez's gubernatorial candidates won 17 of the 22 states, according to the state election board. The opposition held onto Zulia and Nueva Espartaand took control of Miranda, Carabobo, Tachira and metropolitan Caracas, where Antonio Ledezma is the new mayor.

Chavez can claim satisfaction because his older brother, Adan, won a tight race to be the new governor in their home state, Barinas. Their father is the outgoing governor.

The opposition was hopeful that it would win Carabobo and Tachira, the two other states whose results remained in doubt early Monday morning.

Chavez's party won all but two of the the governor's races contested in 2004, so while he won most of the races on Sunday, the opposition parties gained ground, particularly in the country's biggest states.

Chavez had signaled that he wanted a mandate Sunday to seek public approval early next year to abolish term limits so he can seek another six-year term in 2012. He lost a similar referendum one year ago, his only electoral defeat in 10 years as president.

Chavez also wanted a mandate to further his ''21st Century Socialist Revolution'' so he can nationalize more companies and gain more political power for both himself and his followers so they can rule as they see fit.

Charismatic and constantly preaching his solidarity with the poor, Chavez enjoyed a 57 percent approval rating in October in one poll and had bet that his popularity would pull his candidates to victory.

Chavez also wanted to fortify his role as Latin America's most powerful leader in the post-Castro era. As a measure of this, he will host Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in Caracas on Wednesday in a meeting of two oil-rich nations that have testy relations with the United States.

Opposition forces wanted to build upon last year's victory to thwart Chávez's grand ambitions.

Chavez crisscrossed Venezuela over the past two months, using the full force of his government to push for his 22 candidates for governor and 328 candidates for mayor.

State television and radio stations broadcast pro-Chavez ads, and government officials handed out free refrigerators, washing machines and mattresses in poor neighborhoods.

The race in the western plains state of Barinas was important symbolically.

Chavez's father had been governor for 10 years. Two of his brothers hold public jobs in Barinas while two others have contracts to do business with the state.

Accusations that the Chavez family during its 10 years in power has built mansions and bought ranches had given Barinas Mayor Julio Cesar Reyes a fighting chance to defeat Adan Chavez and inflict an embarrassing defeat for President Chavez.

Besides the victory in Barinas, Chavez had to be cheered Monday by the news that his ex-wife Marisabel Rodriguez lost badly in her bid to be elected mayor of Barquisimeto, a city in western Venezuela. The former first lady ran as a strong critic of the president.

But a former Chavez minister lost in Sucre, a sprawling slum district in Metropolitan Caracas. Opposition candidate Carlos Ocariz was the winner.

In the Sucre neighborhood of Petare, two dozen pro-Chavez voters didn't identify Chacon by name when asked whom they supported.

''For the revolutionary process,'' said Yumelis Montano, a 47-year-old seamstress, ''it is going well.'' Montano, like virtually all the other pro-Chavez voters, cited government assistance in explaining her vote. Montaño has received free medicine from Cuban doctors who work in poor neighborhoods in a program created by Chavez's close relationship with Cuba.

Wendys Bello, 33, voted for the government candidates because she credited Chavez with allowing her to get her high school degree next month in one of the government's free educational programs known as ''missions.'' Dixia Nava, 48, favored Chavez's candidates because of government grocery stores in poor neighborhoods that allow her to buy food at a deep discount.

Jorge Padilla, a 40-year-old house painter, voted for Chavez's candidates because Chavez gave citizenship to thousands of illegal Colombian immigrants in Venezuela, like himself.

But many other people at this voting station in Petare favored opposition candidate Ocariz, a former congressman, because of skyrocketing crime.

Jhon Saez was robbed of $5,000 by a man who shoved a gun in his bank as he left a bank 10 days ago.

Alberto Flores was held up by a gun-wielding assailant outside his home on Wednesday and lost $200.

''Chavez doesn't care about the crime problem,'' Flores said. At a more upscale Caracas neighborhood, Magaly Rodriguez, a retired government worker, called Chavez a ''demagogue, a liar, a person taking us backward,'' when she explained why she voted for the opposition slate.

Venezuelans voted on touch screen machines. Each person had up to six minutes to vote. After voting, each person dipped their right pinkie in an inkwell to prevent voting a second time.

McClatchy Newspapers 2008

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so he's goin for it again- figured he wouldnt let it just slip away
 

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until 2021 as long as he can keep winning elections,
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Spectrum

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^^^

The vote was just done on this right Que?

edit:..just looked it up..happening today
 

Makkonnen

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Lookout for Chavez's team to be working extra hard to get out the vote or to pull some shenanigans this time around.
 

QueEx

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^^^

The vote was just done on this right Que?

edit:..just looked it up..happening today

Yeah, bro, its going down today. I just created this thread from the "Venezuelan Coup" thread. The term limits discussion had become embedded in that thread and, because the term limits discussion dates back over two years, some of it had become sort of lost among the other various Venezuelan related topics in that thread.

Hope this helps.

QueEx
 

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Makkonnen

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Yeah, bro, its going down today. I just created this thread from the "Venezuelan Coup" thread. The term limits discussion had become embedded in that thread and, because the term limits discussion dates back over two years, some of it had become sort of lost among the other various Venezuelan related topics in that thread.

Hope this helps.

QueEx
thanks for doin that- there is a tremendous amount of information in some of these threads

I know there aren't that many people engaging in these threads but I still like them and the fact they are still around. Can't say the same for other sites that may have more people.
 

Spectrum

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State owned television is a beautiful thing for Chavez. Would be ironic as hell if he loses his run in 3 years.. but it's highly unlikely unless the economy really takes a shit and tanks out oil prices even further.
 

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Makkonnen

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State owned television is a beautiful thing for Chavez. Would be ironic as hell if he loses his run in 3 years.. but it's highly unlikely unless the economy really takes a shit and tanks out oil prices even further.
Sorry bruh, I have absolutely no sympathy for the opposition in Venezuela. The rich white spaniard upper class opposition are criminals as far as I'm concerned. They only have their position due to hundreds of years of exploitation. Fuck em.

Oil price instability will definitely affect Hugo but since his backing comes from the poor and middle class, who he has pushed to understand his social medical and other programs and rewarded when things were good, I think he will have them in his corner no matter what. The only chance to throw him out would be to find some centrist to appeal to both sides but that shit aint happening. South America is finally embracing people of color as their leaders.

I think you have to ask yourself whether Chavez and others would be so far to the left if the US hadn't crushed South America with such horrible dictatorships over the past century. You reap what you sow.
 

Spectrum

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Sorry bruh, I have absolutely no sympathy for the opposition in Venezuela. The rich white spaniard upper class opposition are criminals as far as I'm concerned. They only have their position due to hundreds of years of exploitation. Fuck em.

I have no sympathy for privilege. I don't think that Hugo's opposition is solely the privileged though Makk. However, that group is certainly going to be disproportionately apart of the opposition.

Oil price instability will definitely affect Hugo but since his backing comes from the poor and middle class, who he has pushed to understand his social medical and other programs and rewarded when things were good, I think he will have them in his corner no matter what. The only chance to throw him out would be to find some centrist to appeal to both sides but that shit aint happening. South America is finally embracing people of color as their leaders.

The drop in oil prices have begun to put pressure on him already. A further drop could really put a lot of pressure on him because he uses the oil profits to fund his social programs.

I agree though...it's good to see people of color and natives in positions of power...even if I don't fully agree with their politics...


I think you have to ask yourself whether Chavez and others would be so far to the left if the US hadn't crushed South America with such horrible dictatorships over the past century. You reap what you sow.

I remember I had this politics class about 11 years ago with 2 Argentinians... they didn't waste a second when they had a chance to blast the U.S. for some of their fuckery in their country... partially justifiably.. but they also were in the U.S. for their education.. kind of a conundrum...

but yeah...there is cause and effect...and Bush made the sale game for the leftists much easier with his fucking behavior. As much as I don't agree with Chavez on many issues... BUSH was a MUCH worse leader....I still don't like the idea of unlimited terms for political leader. but he could always pull a PUTIN anyway and just place a figurehead there....but even going back decades... we've got a long list of fuckery in latin america..
 

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The interesting Headline of this BBC article might not be
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Chavez to send troops to another
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"The president is tightening his control
over the private sector two weeks after
Venezuelans strengthened his political
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McClatchy Newspapers
By Tyler Bridges
Sunday, March 1, 2009


CARACAS, Venezuela _Government troops will occupy Venezuela's biggest rice-processing plant on Monday, President Hugo Chavez announced Sunday, as the socialist leader expanded his crackdown on private companies that evade government price caps on their products.

"They call me a tyrant and a dictator," Chavez said, referring to his opponents. "But I'm here to safeguard the public and follow the constitution."

Chavez sent soldiers to occupy their first rice processing plant on Saturday, a facility in the state of Guarico in central Venezuela owned by Grupo Polar, the country's largest food producer.

Agriculture Minister Elias Jaua told Chavez on his televised Sunday talk show, "Hello President," that troops will seize a second rice processing plant in Portuguesa state in western Venezuela on Monday.

Chavez also threatened to expropriate companies that resist him.

The president is tightening his control over the private sector two weeks after Venezuelans strengthened his political hand by abolishing term limits so he can seek re-election for another six-year term in 2012.

The move comes days before Chavez is expected to take his first unpopular austerity measures in the face of a coming recession that will end five years of economic boom.

The global oil price drop is projected to cost Venezuela about half of its export income in 2009 and 25 percent of its government revenue.

Chavez has been steadily taking control over Venezuela's economy since gaining office 10 years ago.

Besides price controls, Chavez has ordered government control over four major oil projects and nationalized big steel, dairy and cement companies.

Many of Chavez's moves to extend government control over the economy have been responses to private sector efforts to defy him.

That's the case with the latest developments.

In 2003, Chavez capped prices on dozens of basic foodstuffs - including chicken, sugar, meat and rice - to try to contain inflation.

The measure has had limited success. Inflation rose to 31 percent last year, the highest in Latin America, and companies learned that by slightly changing their product offerings, they could escape price controls.

Canned tuna fish manufacturers, for example, raised prices by introducing one version of canned tuna with peas and another with a spicy flavoring.

Chavez is accusing rice producers of carrying out a similar move.

"This means higher profits for the producers," Chavez said on Sunday. "They invent flavored rice, which is more expensive. They've denied they're doing this 100 times. But I'm tired of it."

Private companies across the board have complained that government price controls force them to lose money by selling their goods at less than the cost of production.

The price controls have led companies to reduce production, which has led to constant shortages of goods. A year ago, consumers felt like they had won the lottery when they were able to find eggs or milk at their local supermarket. Chavez raised dairy prices, and the products reappeared.

Shortages this year have included sugar, coffee and toilet paper.

Chavez said Sunday that the presence of troops at the rice plant in Guarico had already increased production. Government officials said that Grupo Polar had flavored 90 percent of the rice produced at the Guarico plant to sell it at a higher price.

The owners "have been trying to fool the public," Jaua told Chavez.

The president's original order on Saturday called for troops to occupy all rice mills, but they have yet to enter a plant in Portuguesa owned by Cargill, the U.S.-based multinational. That move likely would draw a sharp protest from the Obama administration.

Chavez has said he wants better relations with President Obama, but on Sunday he said that recent negative reports by the Obama administration about Venezuela had him thinking that Obama would simply represent a continuation of President Bush.

Chavez's move against the rice producers will enrage businessmen and market-based economists.

Franklin Rojas, a Caracas-based economist, said the Venezuelan government should be taking steps to encourage private investment to soften the coming hard times.

"In Venezuela, it's the reverse," Rojas said.

Rojas added that Chavez's latest moves reflect his goal of establishing a socialist state "just like in Cuba where the private sector has no role."

Anticipating that kind of criticism, Chavez told Venezuelans on Sunday that "some people think we're planning to take their homes, their cars, their computers, their small farms. Don't believe it. Those are lies told by the oligarchy."

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