Bush's Presidency

[TravelingMan]

Bush's Presidency is going to go down as one of the worst ever. Look at all the things that have happen on his watch and we have 2 1/2 more years to go. Can you name another president who has done worst? Most have corrected the issues or did something to proved hope. That man has Amerikka running in circles. Get prepared!!!!

[daghost05]

...so I understand you correctly...It's Bush's fault they hit the towers on 9/11 and Bush's fault Hurricane Katrina ran through the Gulf Coast? Fam, there are plenty of things to blame his administration for, but those 2 are not one of them. All we can do is judge how he handles the situation's response. With 9/11, I think he was strong and did a good job and showed the leadership (that was evident by the strong poll support he received after 9/11). Where it started to go down hill was the Iraq war when we didn't find any WMD's, whether he was mislead or not...he's got to take the fall for that one. Now, as far as New Orleans, though it's still early on...he's off to a very slow start in my book. This thing, from a distant, appears to be very POORLY MANAGED. Granted, you're not going to get to everyone and rescue all people, but there are areas you'd think they could have gotten to (e.g. overpasses, highways) MUCH sooner. But even more to blame for any lost lives from not being rescued are these fukin bitch ass niggaz running around snipin' rescue workers and shooting at volunteers trying to remove sick Children from that CHildren's Medical Center...that is fukin inexcusable!

[Eduble]

Originally Posted by daghost05

...so I understand you correctly...It's Bush's fault they hit the towers on 9/11 and Bush's fault Hurricane Katrina ran through the Gulf Coast? Fam, there are plenty of things to blame his administration for, but those 2 are not one of them. All we can do is judge how he handles the situation's response. With 9/11, I think he was strong and did a good job and showed the leadership (that was evident by the strong poll support he received after 9/11). Where it started to go down hill was the Iraq war when we didn't find any WMD's, whether he was mislead or not...he's got to take the fall for that one. Now, as far as New Orleans, though it's still early on...he's off to a very slow start in my book. This thing, from a distant, appears to be very POORLY MANAGED. Granted, you're not going to get to everyone and rescue all people, but there are areas you'd think they could have gotten to (e.g. overpasses, highways) MUCH sooner. But even more to blame for any lost lives from not being rescued are these fukin bitch ass niggaz running around snipin' rescue workers and shooting at volunteers trying to remove sick Children from that CHildren's Medical Center...that is fukin inexcusable!

Man WTF. Bush showed strong leadership? He was struggling for 7 min trying to read a kids book before he did anything. He did mislead the country and where's Osama. Have everyone forgot about that. Where the fuck is he? He was suppose to be Bush's number one priority yet and still we are in a war with Iraq who didn't have any terrorist ties with Osama. Man STFU. Bush is an idiot and that is what dumbass' in this country put in office. God damn he's an idiot and your an idiot for giving that bum any fucking credit.

[Dolemite]

the secretary of state ended her vacation today after watchin a broadway play

Bush continued going around making bullshit fuckin speeches after this shit happened

Bush is active president who slashed flood control funding
Bush is active president who's CIA director he gave a medal to and who now is a known fuck up for 9-11 -Iraq war? lies? golden cake? forged documents with wrong names? Guantanamo?

now add FEMA fiasco of lies
Mike Brown is on record lying about feeding 20-30,000 people at the Convention Center and claims to not know they existed until 4 days after the hurricane hit
besides the fact that his troops 15800 destined for N.O. yesterday never showed up

id say he has had one of the shittiest presidencies ever

but an oil corp exec would differ with 700% oil price increases

did I mention enron? his energy corp energy dept? his energy corp EPA science report audits? his chief of staff exposing CIA covert agents? No bid contracts for the VP's former employer? Anti-Monopoly law busting? Expanding the deficit? Losing more than $90 billion dollars? trying to apply his genius to social security?

how much you want to bet his administration breaks all previous federal indictment records set by previous administrations?

repealling the ban on CIA assassinations? patriot act?
mars?


donald trump wouldnt have sold this nation out like this lowlife nazi retard

Joe Isuzu is our president

[dyhawk]

[QueEx]

An excellent bird's eye view of world opinion.

QueEx

[dyhawk]

Bush says relief efforts are ‘not acceptable’
President plans tour of hurricane-devastated Gulf Coast

WASHINGTON - President Bush, facing blistering criticism for his administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, said Friday "the results are not acceptable" and pledged to bolster relief efforts with a personal trip to the Gulf Coast.

"We'll get on top of this situation," Bush said, "And we're going to help the people that need help."

He spoke on the White House grounds just before boarding his presidential helicopter, Marine One, with Homeland Security Department secretary Michael Chertoff to tour the region. The department, which oversees the Federal Emergency Management Agency, has been accused of responding sluggishly to the deadly hurricane.

"There's a lot of aid surging toward those who've been affected. Millions of gallons of water. Millions of tons of food. We're making progress about pulling people out of the Superdome," the president said.

For the first time, however, he stopped defending his administration's response and criticized it. "A lot of people are working hard to help those who've been affected. The results are not acceptable," he said. "I'm heading down there right now."

A closer look
Bush hoped that his tour of the hurricane-ravaged states would boost the spirits of increasingly desperate storm victims and their tired rescuers, and his visit was aimed at tamping down the ever-angrier criticism that he has engineered a too-little, too-late response.

Four days after Katrina made landfall in southeastern Louisiana, Bush was to get a second, closer look at the devastation wrought by the storm’s 145 mph winds and 25-foot storm surge in an area stretching from just west of New Orleans to Pensacola, Fla. In all, there are 90,000 square miles under federal disaster declaration.

In Mobile, Ala., the president was to get a briefing on the damage, followed by a helicopter survey of areas along the Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana coasts. He was to walk through hard-hit neighborhoods in Biloxi, Miss.

New Orleans center avoided
But Bush was avoiding an in-person visit to the worst areas of New Orleans, mostly drowned in rank floodwaters and descending in many areas into lawlessness as desperate residents await rescue or even just food and water. Instead, the president was taking an aerial tour of the city and making an appearance at the airport several miles from the center of town.

Friday’s trip follows a 35-minute flyover of the region he took Wednesday aboard Air Force One. as he headed back to Washington from his Texas ranch.

While the president was working his way along the coast, his wife, Laura, was scheduled to be nearby in Lafayette, La. Mrs. Bush was to visit the Cajundome arena to console people who took shelter there.

Amid the lowest approval ratings of his presidency, Bush has other problems besides the hurricane: Gasoline prices have soared past $3 a gallon in some places, and support is ebbing for the war in Iraq.

So Bush has tried to respond to Katrina in a way that evokes the national goodwill he cultivated after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks — and that does not recall the criticism his father, former President Bush, endured after Hurricane Andrew slammed Florida in 1992.

But he began facing questions about his leadership in the crisis almost immediately. New Orleans officials, in particular, were enraged about what they said was a slow federal response.

“They don’t have a clue what’s going on down there,” Mayor Ray Nagin told WWL-AM Thursday night.

FEMA overwhelmed
Seeking to deflect the criticism, Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, asserted earlier Friday: “In this catastrophic event, everything that we had pre-positioned and ready to go became overwhelmed immediately after the storm.”

Though he cut his August stay at his Texas ranch short by two days to return to Washington, some said that Bush should not have waited until two days after the storm hit to do so.

The president and his aides have repeatedly rattled off specifics about the massive federal response effort under way, from Bush’s personal donation to the number of tarps delivered to a $10.5 billion request in emergency aid from Congress to the 28,000 troops sent to the region to help with security and rescues. Some people say the federal government could do more, or do it more quickly, if so many National Guard troops hadn’t been sent to Iraq.

Also, there already are questions about funding for the Army Corps of Engineers’ part in managing the levees that protected New Orleans, especially given years of warnings that the network of barriers was inadequate for the largest storms.

The White House on Thursday made available top Corps officials to assure reporters that cuts to the agency’s budget did not cause the Katrina disaster. Even though the administration has chronically cut back on the Corps’ own requests for funding — including two key New Orleans-area projects — White House officials trumpeted the administration’s support for the Corps.

“Flood control has been a priority of this administration from Day One,” McClellan said.

I THINK THEY ARE PLAYING A POLITICAL GAME WITH PEOPLE LIFE ..............BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG

[QueEx]

I just watched Bush in Mobile. Couldn't believe it. Here his ass is with the FEMA director, Governors of Alabama and Mississippi and the director of Homeland doing what? - supposedly getting a damn briefing of whats going on in Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana. WHAT??? A gotdamn 10 minute press conference - A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY. The kind of briefing I saw could have been done on the way down and the kind I could have given him from what I've seen down here and on national news. You would think the president would have received a FULL BRIEFING onboard Air Force One on the way down here -- and he would be announcing at the press conference exactly how he plans to provide IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE !!!

Tell you what. The Mayor of New Orleans is about to be in a make or break situation. His efforts (though hampered by a lack of resources because of the evacuation ahead of the storm) have not been worth a fuck either. He has tried to come on strong in the last 12 hours -- sounding more authoritative and on top of things. Now, Bush is on the way and plans call for him to meet with the Mayor.

How the Mayor handles this will have a large bearing on his immediate stature and, perhaps, the president's as well.

QueEx

[QueEx]

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In the meantime .... New Orleans burns ...

QueEx

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[Fuckallyall]

Originally Posted by QueEx

An excellent bird's eye view of world opinion.

QueEx

I beg to differ. I think most of it is bullshit.

[QueEx]

Originally Posted by Fuckallyall

I beg to differ. I think most of it is bullshit.

You have the right to do that: disagree. When you do, however, point out that with which you disagree so that your disagreement is not like just another navel or asshole.

QueEx

[dyhawk]

Originally Posted by Fuckallyall

I beg to differ. I think most of it is bullshit.

whats bullshit about it.......thats how the world is looking at it the richest nation in the world were it doesn't take more then a few hours to get to any part of america, where the people in the media seem to be accessing the victims faster and better then the government.........where is the bullshit in that..........they simply don't give a shit 1300 trops for MISS and LOu..........look at that in square miles and then you see the bull shit

[Fuckallyall]

Originally Posted by QueEx

You have the right to do that: disagree. When you do, however, point out that with which you disagree so that your disagreement is not like just another navel or asshole.

QueEx

You are right, as usual. First, the ennviromental remarks. This is a sample:

This Katrina hurricane is a 'warning' by God over President Bush's reactionary behaviour on the Kyoto Protocol. The US government should wake up from this big disaster, truly take up its responsibilities as a great nation, and become the forerunner in protecting the global climate.

1. The Kyoto Protocol was NEVER popular with the representatives of this country, and were opposed my a overwhellming majority back when Clinotn was still president, and it was rejected by the Senate 95-0. Even Ted Kennedy opposed it. And the US is responsible for the US. All else it does is gravy.

2. The Kyoto protocol would not have done shit regarding this hurricane. Period.

3. Even if the Kyoto protocol if fully implemented, the resultant changes will not have much of an effect due to the fact that we as a world would still be pumping millions of tons of greehouse gases into the enviroment.

Next, the statments about Americas response.

Germany's Die Tageszeitung


The fast and safe evacuation was white, leaving behind poor black people, as if time had stood still between the racial unrest of the sixties and today.

The evacuation was heeded by 80 % of the citizens, and NO is mostly black, so who were those that left the city. Also, not all that were trapped in the city after the hurricane were there out of poverty. Some discounted the effect the storm would have. Some would not leave thier homes to potential looters. Some may have wanted to stay to loot, also not fully accepting the possible ramifications of this level of event. That does not mean that the several levels of government would knowingly and willfully forsake its citizens, being black or white. Also, during the unrest the above quote mentions, many of the freedom fighters and activists were white.

And I might add that Germany should not be throwing stones. Thier protection of thier citizens is far from excellent. "Hate" crimes are rising, as well as the open show of bigotry against recent immigrants.

Prague's Hospodarske Noviny


Not even the monstrous Katrina will drag the USA into recession.

Do they wish it would? Maybe they do not relize that if the USA crashes, how are they going to get over half of thier wheat, which comes from the US, mostly throught the Port of NO.

While I agree that we have many lessons to be learned, we need to concentrate on the unity of helping our fellows. And we refers to the society as a whole, not just the government.

[Fuckallyall]

Originally Posted by dyhawk

whats bullshit about it.......thats how the world is looking at it the richest nation in the world were it doesn't take more then a few hours to get to any part of america, where the people in the media seem to be accessing the victims faster and better then the government.........where is the bullshit in that..........they simply don't give a shit 1300 trops for MISS and LOu..........look at that in square miles and then you see the bull shit

Just because the US is the richest nation in the world, that does not equate to omnipotence. And we can get to any part of the country in hours because there are railroads, airports, and highways to get us there. And that is EXACTLY what we do not have here now.

And another thing, there is an enormous convoy heading into town as we speak, with many people cheering. Think you'll see that on the news.

And I do find it funny that you put so much stock in the news of this angle, when in the past you have been very critical of media. Pick one. Or do you just pick whatever criticizes the US. Holla.

[dyhawk]

Originally Posted by Fuckallyall

Just because the US is the richest nation in the world, that does not equate to omnipotence. And we can get to any part of the country in hours because there are railroads, airports, and highways to get us there. And that is EXACTLY what we do not have here now. .

Oh i am sorry i didn't know the roads railways and highways were out in the near by states, and that the river was close for the up coming labour day, i am sorry i didn't realise that the sea was closed for repair and that no ships could cross, i am sorry i was unaware that the sky was on lock down and no one could fly over head to drop supplies and that no one on the ground could secure a drop zone, am sorry i didn't know the media had a space and time bending machine to get in there and that the army wasn't privilage to that technology

Originally Posted by Fuckallyall

And another thing, there is an enormous convoy heading into town as we speak, with many people cheering. Think you'll see that on the news..

oh you mean the things that were suppose to be pre-position before the storm ...........lets keep in mind people it was at 175mph winds on sunday and that everyone knew it would be bad and everyone expected New Orleans not only to get a diret hit but flood "please note the word flood" and it didn't even get a direct hit......ok moving on

Originally Posted by Fuckallyall

And I do find it funny that you put so much stock in the news of this angle, when in the past you have been very critical of media. Pick one. Or do you just pick whatever criticizes the US. Holla.

I am sorry i am not patriotic beyond reason but i only attack hypocrisy not America but hypocrisy and inequality i have also never attack the media when it brings both sides of a story please note i have never attacked BBC news or any none bias news source

[QueEx]

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[ajc921]

what made me more questionable about the whole sit was that fema did not show up on the first days, it was almost like they were scared and shit and i think bush was still at his ranch, it was reported that he was "pissed off" that he couldnt finish his vacation. as a president, as devastating as that hurricane was you should be down there in the heart of the problem and what he did was basically showed us he didnt really care. All that shit about huggin that black chick or whateva, that broads wasnt even from america, but it makes it look good, "good press". anyways...all we can do is pray and hope these 2 1/2 come quick as hell