Lamarr, actinanass, I DEMAND AN APOLOGY!

[thoughtone]

Investigation finds no evidence Holder knew of 'Fast and Furious' gun-running sting

Originally Posted by Lamarr

So, with that being said......................We have another, failed Bush policy being continued by the Obama Admin! By Holder not willing to be forthcoming about the info the Senate is requesting, he must be coverin-up for ol "W"!

at those who believe there is a difference between the Dems & Repubs

Originally Posted by actinanass

I'm going to give props to the president. He is one loyal person for this move.

I really hope there's nothing Nixon-like going on here.

Originally Posted by Lamarr

It has already started! ! !

Once again your innuendos and insinuations have failed. Post an apology!

You were and your sidekick are ignorance of the facts!

Ideologists!

[Lamarr]

Sooooo..........The executive branch investigates the executive branch and exonerates itself.

This doesn't surprise me.

[HeathCliff]

Originally Posted by Lamarr

Sooooo..........The executive branch investigates the executive branch and exonerates itself.

This doesn't surprise me.

Me thinks your response would be quite different if the ruling was the other way around

[QueEx]

Originally Posted by Lamarr

Sooooo..........The executive branch investigates the executive branch and exonerates itself.

This doesn't surprise me.

Originally Posted by HeathCliff

Me thinks your response would be quite different if the ruling was the other way around

[Greed]

Why would it be illegitimate to investigate how much Holder knew about such a terrible idea ran by a department he is responsible for?

[QueEx]

Originally Posted by Greed

Why would it be illegitimate to investigate how much Holder knew about such a terrible idea ran by a department he is responsible for?

Who said it would be "illegitimate"

[Greed]

The accusation is this was a waste of time and only happened because Holder is black. So apologize.

[QueEx]

I think the major complaint was the 'timing' of the Congressional Committee's investigation (it knew that the OIG was conducting an investigation and it knew damn well that the OIG reports to it). Hence, it could have waited to hear from its investigative arm -- but I suppose it couldn't resist the possibility of saying, "what did he know and when did he know it" -- fast on the heels of the approaching election.

Of course, and I respectfully admit, that I personally didn't like the nasty tone of the Republican-led committee's inquiry - and it appeared to me the major point of the the committee's efforts were aimed at but one thing: embarrass the President.

[QueEx]

I just went back and read the previous poster-comments in this thread -- trying to understand the "illegitmate" comment (since my "find on this page" search hadn't turn up a previous use of the term). Are you the "sidekick" LOL ???

[Greed]

I don't know if the term has been used before, but timing doesn't seem to be one of the OP's complaint.

I was thinking about calling him out for making a new thread about it, because this makes it easier to hide his nonsense in the other thread.

[QueEx]

Originally Posted by Greed

I don't know if the term has been used before, but timing doesn't seem to be one of the OP's complaint.

I was thinking about calling him out for making a new thread about it, because this makes it easier to hide his nonsense in the other thread.

Greed, I don't know what was in the mind of the OP and I try to avoid mental speculation. In fact, 'Speculation' is my favorite objection when witnesses venture into the realm of para-psychology -- to opine upon what they think someone else thought.

So, I'll take a seat, and let him respond.

[Majestic Lion]

ha @ the posturing.

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by Greed

I don't know if the term has been used before, but timing doesn't seem to be one of the OP's complaint.

I was thinking about calling him out for making a new thread about it, because this makes it easier to hide his nonsense in the other thread.

I made a new thread because the usual suspects tend to male wild accusations (i.e. throw stones from behind rocks} and then abandon the thread when exposed.

Placing the demand at the top of the board minimizes the excuses (i.e. not wanting to type from Android).

If the current accuser wants to reference the original post, all he as to do is click on the link on the first thread. He seemed to have a lot to say their.

[thoughtone]

And after all of this, I have yet to hear from the accused.

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by Greed

The accusation is this was a waste of time and only happened because Holder is black. So apologize.

Originally Posted by QueEx

Are you the "sidekick" LOL ???

One of the stone throwers!

[actinanass]

Demand an apology?

Did the dude pay your rent?

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Demand an apology?

Did the dude pay your rent?

Originally Posted by actinanass

Yet, you have all the credibility. So typical...


I'm worried about you dude. Seriously....

[Lamarr]

This is I'm gonna say, then I will rest:

If Holder genuinely didn't know, the mere fact that he didn't know makes him guilty of dereliction and gross incompetence leading to the death of a Federal Agent. So either he knew and should be indicted for complicity, or he didn't know and should be indicted for negligence. What his own personal investigator happens to uncover about his own personal role here is frankly irrelevant.

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by Lamarr

This is I'm gonna say, then I will rest:

If Holder genuinely didn't know, the mere fact that he didn't know makes him guilty of dereliction and gross incompetence leading to the death of a Federal Agent. So either he knew and should be indicted for complicity, or he didn't know and should be indicted for negligence. What his own personal investigator happens to uncover about his own personal role here is frankly irrelevant.

If Holder genuinely didn't know

Go take your conspiracy theory, paid to post ass back to Hannity's board! You came on here right after President Obama won and done nothing but throw innuendo and accusations. You haven't been right yet.

[QueEx]

Originally Posted by Lamarr

This is I'm gonna say, then I will rest:

Sometimes, its better to just shut the fuck up . . . so that people won't know whether you simply harbor sour grapes, OR you really don't know any better.

Originally Posted by Lamarr

If Holder genuinely didn't know, the mere fact that he didn't know makes him guilty of dereliction and gross incompetence leading to the death of a Federal Agent.

That statement is wrong in ways too numerous to count. But, first and foremost, there is NO rule, law, regulation or reasoning that would make one culpable as you described, merely because he/she doesn't know a thing.

That would be tantamount to saying you, Lamarr, are guilty of dereliction and gross incompetence for making the statement above - because there is no such rule as you attempted to impose on the Attorney General -- even though you did'nt know that there is no such rule, law, regulation, reasoning, etc.

Secondly, stop making up the facts. It has NEVER been shown that a "fast/furious" gun resulted in the agents death. YOU made that up! "[T]two firearms sold under the program surfaced at the site of Terry's murder, though they were never linked directly to his death."

Originally Posted by Lamarr

What his own personal investigator happens to uncover about his own personal role here is frankly irrelevant.

Again, lets see how your ill-conceived rule applies to YOU:

The Office of the Inspector General -- is independent of each of the federal agencies that it sits atop; it reports directly to Congress.

Hence, for either refusing to understand that or because you just didn't know, LOL, YOU are guilty of dereliction and gross incompetence.