Could Romney Big The Biggest Liar In American Presidential Campaign History?

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Hold up, thoughtone just said that this "scandal" is equivalent to the Obama birth certificate "scandal". I'm just putting things in prospective.

,,,and what did you say President Obama should do about his birth certificate?

Originally Posted by actinanass

ok call me when Obama shows his Birth certificate....



*not saying I'm believing the hype, but why not kill they hype?*

Of course you don't have the balls to respond to this question directly.

[QueEx]

Originally Posted by actinanass

ok call me when Obama shows his Birth certificate....



*not saying I'm believing the hype, but why not kill they [sic] hype?*

[thoughtone]

[Upgrade Dave]

Originally Posted by QueEx

I hate when people quote and bold my typos too.

[thoughtone]

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by actinanass

I can defend Romney, I just choose not to. It makes no difference one way, or another.

[QueEx]

Originally Posted by actinanass

BTW, I didn't give lip service towards the birth certificate situation until President Obama was in office.

The Taxers of the far left tend not to have the same mindset I did.

Originally Posted by thoughtone

,,,and what did you say President Obama should do about his birth certificate?

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

Honestly

Don't equate the birth certificate foolishness with Mitt's holding back his returns. Mitt has been fighting against revealing his tax returns for his entire political life.

Originally Posted by actinanass

I can defend Romney . . .

.......

[muckraker10021]

[actinanass]

Originally Posted by thoughtone

,,,and what did you say President Obama should do about his birth certificate?





Of course you don't have the balls to respond to this question directly.

when I made that comment, President Obama was already president.

Mitt should do the same thing.

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by actinanass

when I made that comment, President Obama was already president.

Mitt should do the same thing.

already president.

Which makes that, that much more ridiculous!

[thoughtone]

The republicans will try to win by hook or by crook!

source: The Hill

Chrysler refutes Romney claim Jeep production moving to China


One of the recipients of the $80-billion bailout of the U.S. auto industry that roiled the presidential campaign is refuting a claim from Republican Mitt Romney that production of one of its models is moving from Ohio to China.

During a campaign rally in Defiance, Ohio, on Thursday, Romney accused Detroit-based automaker Chrysler of planning to shift production of its Jeep brand of cars overseas.

But the auto company said it a blog post on its website that former Massachusetts governor's statements were based on bad information.

"There are times when the reading of a newswire report generates storms originated by a biased or predisposed approach," Chrysler spokesman Gualberto Ranieri wrote.

"On Oct. 22, 2012, at 11:10 a.m. ET, the Bloomberg News report 'Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises' stated 'Chrysler currently builds all Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio," Ranieri continued. "Manley (President and CEO of the Jeep brand) referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China."

In his speech to supporters in Ohio, Romney cited the report in attempt to push back on attacks from President Obama for his opposition to the bailout that was given to Chrysler and General Motors in 2008 and 2009. Obama has seized on an op-ed Romney wrote in the New York Times that was titled "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" to argue that he was not in favor of the preservation of the U.S. auto industry, which many jobs in Ohio are tied to.

“I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state, Jeep, now owned by the Italians, is thinking of moving all production to China,” Romney said in his Defiance speech. “I will fight for every good job in America, I’m going to fight to make sure trade is fair, and if it’s fair, America will win.”

But Ranieri said the former Massachusetts governor had jumped the gun.

"Despite clear and accurate reporting, the take has given birth to a number of stories making readers believe that Chrysler plans to shift all Jeep production to China from North America, and therefore idle assembly lines and U.S. workforce," Ranieri wrote. "It is a leap that would be difficult even for professional circus acrobats.

"Let’s set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China," he continued. "It’s simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China for the world’s largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation. A careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg take would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments."

The Obama campaign also reacted strongly to Romney's remarks, saying in a statement "As Chrysler said … ‘Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China.’

"And what’s more: President Obama has fought on behalf of U.S. auto workers by challenging unfair Chinese tariffs on U.S. auto exports to China, including Jeeps, while Romney would have let the American auto industry and a million jobs go under,” the Obama campaign's statement said.

[thoughtone]

source: Think Progress

Romney Auto Bailout Ad Tells Four Myths In 30 Seconds




As Mitt Romney continues to struggle to explain his various positions on the auto rescue that saved General Motors and Chrysler, his presidential campaign has released an ad about the bailout that is littered with falsehoods and misdirections.
Watch it:




The 30-second ad is running in Ohio, a state where Romney is trailing in the polls and has been battered by the Obama campaign for his opposition to the auto rescue. Here is a breakdown of the ad’s misleading, and sometimes false, claims:

1. “Mitt Romney has a plan to help the auto industry.” No specific plan is referenced in the ad, and Romney’s campaign web site does not include a plan to “help the auto industry.” In 2008, Romney wrote a New York Times editorial titled, “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt,” and he re-upped his call against the auto rescue during the Republican primaries this year.

2. “[Romney] is supported by Lee Iaccoca and the Detroit News.” Chrysler Chairman Lee Iaccoca has indeed endorsed Romney. The Detroit News, a self-described “conservative newspaper,” endorsed him last week. But in that endorsement, the paper slammed Romney’s “wrong-headedness on the auto bailout.”

3. “Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy.” Obama did take both companies into a managed bankruptcy, the path Romney says was originally his idea. Romney, however, supported private sector financing of the bankruptcy, a plan that was “pure fantasy” at the time since no private lenders could lend to the companies in the middle of the financial crisis. Without federal intervention, the companies would have almost assuredly collapsed, costing 1.3 million jobs, according to industry estimates.

4. “[Obama] sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China.” This week, Romney claimed he read a news story that said Chrysler was planning to “moving all production to China.” The Bloomberg News piece he referenced, though, made it clear that Fiat, the Italian company that now owns Chrysler, was opening new factories in China to make Jeeps for Chinese consumers. No American plants will be closed, and no American jobs will be lost. The ad’s claim may not be as false as Romney’s previous statement, but it is certainly misleading.

Update


The Romney campaign is now defending the ad, with an unnamed aide telling BuzzFeed that it is literally true:

“What’s in there that’s false? Are they building Jeeps in China or not?” an aide asked BuzzFeed, breaking the campaign’s silence on the ad. “I think a lot of Ohioans are wondering why we can’t make Jeeps here and ship them to China, just like they are wondering why we can’t make — insert product here — in this country and export them to China.”

That, of course, doesn’t explain away Romney’s clear misstatement that Chrysler planned to move “all production to China,” which the Romney campaign has thus far refused to address. Nor does it address the ad’s clear implication that American jobs would be lost if Chrysler decides to open production lines in China.

Update


Politico reporter Ben White, on Twitter: “I asked for a copy of Romney’s ‘plan to help the auto industry’ per the Jeep ad and received no response.”

[Upgrade Dave]

Just a liar but he has a R behind his name so his supporters will overlook Lie #3921 and vote for him anyway.

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

Just a liar but he has a R behind his name so his supporters will overlook Lie #3921 and vote for him anyway.

You mean the usual suspect?

Originally Posted by actinanass

I can defend Romney, I just choose not to.

[thoughtone]

[Upgrade Dave]

Originally Posted by thoughtone

You mean the usual suspect?

He's one but the Republican friends on my Facebook page get deathly silent on the topic of Mitt Romney and why they insist on voting for him.

[thoughtone]

source: Yahoo News

Chrysler repeats not moving Jeep work to China from U.S.



DETROIT (Reuters) - Chrysler Group LLC Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne reaffirmed on Tuesday that the company is not moving Jeep vehicle production out of the United States to China after it became an issue in the U.S. presidential campaign.

Chrysler in an October 25 blog post had already rejected a statement made that day to a crowd in Ohio by Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, that Chrysler was thinking of moving all Jeep production from Ohio to China.

Marchionne told employees by email on Tuesday, "I feel obliged to unambiguously restate our position: Jeep production will not be moved from the United States to China."

Romney, speaking last week to a crowd in Defiance, Ohio, said that he had read a news article that said Chrysler's Jeep brand is considering moving "all production to China."

Later, the Romney campaign aired an advertisement that did not repeat the move of production from Ohio but said that Chrysler is considering making Jeeps in China, which Chrysler has said.

U.S. President Barack Obama's campaign, in its own ad, said Romney was making a "false claim" and noted that Chrysler had challenged Romney's statement.

Ohio is seen by many political pollsters one of several key "swing" states in next Tuesday's presidential election.

Chrysler has been managed by Fiat SpA since it emerged from its 2009 bankruptcy, when the Italian company took 20-percent ownership. Marchionne is chief executive of both Chrysler and Fiat.

Fiat has since increased its ownership to 58.5 percent after achieving several goals, including building a fuel-efficient compact car made in the United States and increasing Chrysler sales outside its North American base.

Romney's ad and his comments in Defiance state that Chrysler has been taken over by an Italian company. Chrysler is based in Auburn Hills, Michigan, outside Detroit. Defiance is about an hour's drive to the a main Jeep plant in Toledo, Ohio.

Chrysler as early as June 2011 had said it was considering adding Jeep production in China.

"We are working to establish a global enterprise and previously announced our intent to return Jeep production to China, the world's largest auto market, in order to satisfy local market demand, which would not otherwise be accessible," said Marchionne in the email on Tuesday.

And he also reaffirmed previous Chrysler announcements about increasing its Jeep production at plants in Ohio, Illinois and Detroit.

"We will invest more than $1.7 billion to develop and produce the next-generation Jeep SUV, the successor of the Jeep Liberty -- including $500 million directly to tool and expand our Toledo Assembly Complex and will be adding about 1,100 jobs on a second shift by 2013," his email to employees said.

Marchionne said that Chrysler, including Jeep, has added 11,200 jobs in the United States since 2009.

"Jeep assembly lines will remain in operation in the United States and will constitute the backbone of the brand," said Marchionne in the email. "It is inaccurate to suggest anything different."

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source: greenbaypressgazett


Chrysler exec slams Donald Trump over Jeep tweet


AUBURN HILLS, MICH. — Frustration with the politicization of the U.S. auto industry’s comeback story generated a pointed response from a top Chrysler executive Thursday.

Billionaire Donald Trump, who supports Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, tweeted Thursday that President Barack “Obama is a terrible negotiator.”

Trump added: “He bails out Chrysler and now Chrysler wants to send all Jeep manufacturing to China — and will!”

The comment drew a heated tweet from Chrysler Group’s vice president for product design, Ralph Gilles: “You are full of (expletive)!”

Gilles is viewed as a well-respected and talented executive who easily could have left Chrysler when it was struggling but opted to stay with the troubled automaker as it went through Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

He joined Chrysler in 1992 as a designer and rose to vice president of design by 2008. Gilles, a car enthusiast, also headed the redevelopment of the 2013 SRT Viper, which is being shipped to dealers now.

It’s the latest iteration of a spat that started a week ago when Romney said in Ohio that he had seen a report suggesting Chrysler could move all Jeep production to China.

Chrysler quickly rejected the claim as inaccurate, and some analysts literally have laughed at the suggestion.

Chrysler Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne told employees in an email Tuesday that all U.S. Jeep production would stay in place and would “constitute the backbone of the brand.”

“It is inaccurate to suggest anything different,” he said.

Romney’s campaign has backed off suggestions that Chrysler would move U.S. jobs to China but maintained its argument that Chrysler’s decision to consider new production in China was an example of Obama’s failed leadership on manufacturing policies. And the campaign released a radio ad in Ohio markets slamming Obama for Chrysler’s plans and General Motors’ China growth.

Obama’s campaign has pounded Romney this week over the Chrysler comments and ads, with Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday calling the accusations an “outrageous lie.”

On Tuesday, Obama campaign manager Jim Messina tweeted that “GM & Chrysler are strong American companies, creating American jobs. Gov Romney is launching false attacks about them.”

GM and Chrysler largely have tried to avoid the political spotlight in recent months, even banning political candidates from their plants for the duration of the campaign.

But the latest developments have drawn them into the discussion more directly.

“We’ve clearly entered some parallel universe during these last few days,” GM spokesman Greg Martin told the Free Press on Tuesday. “No amount of campaign politics at its cynical worst will diminish our record of creating jobs in the U.S. and repatriating profits back to this country.”