Now, I Got a Question

[QueEx]

I hear Romney has been seen sporting a paint job like this on several occassions, especially in his stand on the issues. But, why ???

[Upgrade Dave]

Man, Mitt driving around looking around looking like a Houston rapper would be the greatest thing ever.

[QueEx]

Yep. And, don't they call that paint job: Flip, Flop

[actinanass]

Well, don't vote for him.

/endthread

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Well, don't vote for him.

/endthread

...and any rational person shouldn't either!

[Upgrade Dave]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Well, don't vote for him.

/endthread

Sensitive.

I don't even think that's in doubt at this point.

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

Sensitive.

I don't even think that's in doubt at this point.

The anybody but Obama crowd can't point to any redeeming quality Romney has, so they lash out!

[actinanass]

Are we really talking about redeeming quality?

The reality is, people that pretty much agree with my politics know that if they post ANY good thing about Romney, it would be distorted to high hell.

In the grand scheme of things, you're either going to vote for President Obama, or you not.

You either going to believe that President Obama *without any evidence otherwise* can magically repair this economy. If you believe that, then you should vote for the president.

This election is about President Obama FIRST. This is why you're not getting any debates out of my side.

Obviously, you're not going to vote for Romney. So please, for your sanity, quit wasting your time trying to bait. It's not going to work.

Word of advice, how about focusing on the good things President Obama can run on. That's the only thing you can do.

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Are we really talking about redeeming quality?

The reality is, people that pretty much agree with my politics know that if they post ANY good thing about Romney, it would be distorted to high hell.

In the grand scheme of things, you're either going to vote for President Obama, or you not.

You either going to believe that President Obama *without any evidence otherwise* can magically repair this economy. If you believe that, then you should vote for the president.

This election is about President Obama FIRST. This is why you're not getting any debates out of my side.

Obviously, you're not going to vote for Romney. So please, for your sanity, quit wasting your time trying to bait. It's not going to work.

Word of advice, how about focusing on the good things President Obama can run on. That's the only thing you can do.

You stays on dat Kool Aid!

[Upgrade Dave]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Are we really talking about redeeming quality?

The reality is, people that pretty much agree with my politics know that if they post ANY good thing about Romney, it would be distorted to high hell.

Post something good about Romney that's true and no amount of "distortion" will make it false.
It's just hard to come up with that kind of stuff.

In the grand scheme of things, you're either going to vote for President Obama, or you not.

You either going to believe that President Obama *without any evidence otherwise* can magically repair this economy. If you believe that, then you should vote for the president.

This election is about President Obama FIRST. This is why you're not getting any debates out of my side.
Obviously, you're not going to vote for Romney. So please, for your sanity, quit wasting your time trying to bait. It's not going to work.

Word of advice, how about focusing on the good things President Obama can run on. That's the only thing you can do.

No one said anything about magic. Pass the infrastructure bills he and the Democrats have put forth, that's a proven job creator. "Obamacare" has been the engine that's kept the healthcare industry as a pretty constant job creating industry, that's proven, that's not magic and that's evidence.

It's not just about President Obama, it's about the guy who wants the job and says "I can do better" and so we want to see the evidence of that. If he's your guy, show us that evidence.
Being an idealogue has put you in a horrible position. Just based on your ideology, you have to support the worst and most dishonest candidate in modern history with nothing concrete to back you up.

[thoughtone]

AAA, as always wants to judge Democrats and republicans by two different standards.

It's not about Romney, it's about president Obama?

[QueEx]

Originally Posted by thoughtone

AAA, as always wants to judge Democrats and republicans by two different standards.

It's not about Romney, it's about president Obama?

Yep. But I think the real error is ALWAYS simply reducing judgment, thought, argument, analysis, etc., to democrats and republicans.

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by QueEx

Yep. But I think the real error is ALWAYS simply reducing judgment, thought, argument, analysis, etc., to democrats and republicans.

Agree

[Upgrade Dave]

Originally Posted by QueEx

Yep. But I think the real error is ALWAYS simply reducing judgment, thought, argument, analysis, etc., to democrats and republicans.

I don't dislike Mitt Romney because he's a Republican. He's proven himself to be dishonest, dishonorable, and his math doesn't add up. Why vote for him?
As I've said before, I've voted for Republicans before and I'm open to it again but if you're so blatantly full of sh!t that your own people can't really defend you, why would I even consider voting for you?

[actinanass]

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

Post something good about Romney that's true and no amount of "distortion" will make it false.
It's just hard to come up with that kind of stuff.



No one said anything about magic. Pass the infrastructure bills he and the Democrats have put forth, that's a proven job creator. "Obamacare" has been the engine that's kept the healthcare industry as a pretty constant job creating industry, that's proven, that's not magic and that's evidence.

It's not just about President Obama, it's about the guy who wants the job and says "I can do better" and so we want to see the evidence of that. If he's your guy, show us that evidence.
Being an idealogue has put you in a horrible position. Just based on your ideology, you have to support the worst and most dishonest candidate in modern history with nothing concrete to back you up.

Originally Posted by thoughtone

AAA, as always wants to judge Democrats and republicans by two different standards.

It's not about Romney, it's about president Obama?

Originally Posted by QueEx

Yep. But I think the real error is ALWAYS simply reducing judgment, thought, argument, analysis, etc., to democrats and republicans.

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

I don't dislike Mitt Romney because he's a Republican. He's proven himself to be dishonest, dishonorable, and his math doesn't add up. Why vote for him?
As I've said before, I've voted for Republicans before and I'm open to it again but if you're so blatantly full of sh!t that your own people can't really defend you, why would I even consider voting for you?

I can defend Romney, I just choose not to. It makes no difference one way, or another.

At the end of the day, President Obama will have to defend his record. It's up to the American voting public to choose if they want President Obama back, or not. It's the same with any incumbent, during any other election.

I defended Bush when EVERYONE was saying that he was the worst president ever *even worse than Carter*. Now, it's you're job to defend President Obama.

[Upgrade Dave]

Originally Posted by actinanass

I can defend Romney, I just choose not to. It makes no difference one way, or another.

At the end of the day, President Obama will have to defend his record. It's up to the American voting public to choose if they want President Obama back, or not. It's the same with any incumbent, during any other election. I defended Bush when EVERYONE was saying that he was the worst president ever *even worse than Carter*. Now, it's you're job to defend President Obama.

That's not true. It's about the incumbent and the person wanting to replace him.

Bush isn't/wasn't the worst ever but he was worse than Carter.

And you've tried to defend Romney, you just haven't done a good job. But that's not your fault. He's just a horrible candidate with no details offered to really defend and no positions taken he hasn't been on the opposite side of.

[QueEx]

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

As I've said before, I've voted for Republicans before and I'm open to it again but if you're so blatantly full of sh!t that your own people can't really defend you, why would I even consider voting for you?

and many more of us have and will UD, sometimes intentionally and sometimes when we voted for certain democratic candidates, i.e., what are some conservative democrats, but . . . ?

I don't think we would be nearly as susceptible to being characterized as 'married to the democratic party' if so many republicans didn't make it so hard for me (us) to support them by doing and saying things offensive to us or things just plain contrary to our interest - - while in hot pursuit of certain segments of the white vote.

Whether Michael Steele meant it this way or not, in my opinion it is nevertheless true:

Originally Posted by QueEx

GOP chairman: African-Americans
not given good reason to vote for party



RNC Chairman Michael Steele (Credit: AP)


Chicago Sun-Times
April 20, 2010


Why should an African-American vote Republican?

"You really don't have a reason to, to be honest -- we haven't done a very good job of really giving you one. True? True,"

Republican National Chairman Michael Steele told 200 DePaul University students Tuesday night.

and actinanass, you "Can't blame the so called liberal American press for this one!"

[QueEx]

Sometimes, the better response is just:

Originally Posted by actinanass

Well, don't vote for him.

/endthread

. . . than to go and open your mouth:

Originally Posted by actinanass

The reality is, people that pretty much agree with my politics know that if they post ANY good thing about Romney, it would be distorted to high hell.

In the grand scheme of things, you're either going to vote for President Obama, or you not.

You either going to believe that President Obama *without any evidence otherwise* can magically repair this economy. If you believe that, then you should vote for the president.

This election is about President Obama FIRST. This is why you're not getting any debates out of my side.

Obviously, you're not going to vote for Romney. So please, for your sanity, quit wasting your time trying to bait. It's not going to work.

Word of advice, how about focusing on the good things President Obama can run on. That's the only thing you can do.

and remove all doubt that you had a meaningful defense of Romney, in the first place.

[Upgrade Dave]

Originally Posted by QueEx

and many more of us have and will UD, sometimes intentionally and sometimes when we voted for certain democratic candidates, i.e., what are some conservative democrats, but . . . ?

I don't think we would be nearly as susceptible to being characterized as 'married to the democratic party' if so many republicans didn't make it so hard for me (us) to support them by doing and saying things offensive to us or things just plain contrary to our interest - - while in hot pursuit of certain segments of the white vote.

Whether Michael Steele meant it this way or not, in my opinion it is nevertheless true:

[/b]

Michael Steele's high water moment as head of the RNC.
You can't have your Presidential candidates saying Black people should learn how to make their own money than taking other people's (Rick Santorum) and expect Black folks to even entertain a Republican candidate.

Originally Posted by QueEx

Sometimes, the better response is just:

. . . than to go and open your mouth:


and remove all doubt that you had a meaningful defense of Romney, in the first place.

Leaves you open for the counterpunch you're clearly not able to defend against.
Mittens has made some of these guys the debate equivalent of Arturo Gatti so people like me have to play Floyd Mayweather.

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by actinanass

I can defend Romney, I just choose not to. It makes no difference one way, or another.

[HeathCliff]

I just got a question to all you Repulicans...what happened to all the "One Term President" chants the GOP were echoing to each other not too long ago? Still believing in that bullshit or has reality sat in yet?

[actinanass]

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

That's not true. It's about the incumbent and the person wanting to replace him.

Bush isn't/wasn't the worst ever but he was worse than Carter.

And you've tried to defend Romney, you just haven't done a good job. But that's not your fault. He's just a horrible candidate with no details offered to really defend and no positions taken he hasn't been on the opposite side of.

Originally Posted by QueEx

and many more of us have and will UD, sometimes intentionally and sometimes when we voted for certain democratic candidates, i.e., what are some conservative democrats, but . . . ?

I don't think we would be nearly as susceptible to being characterized as 'married to the democratic party' if so many republicans didn't make it so hard for me (us) to support them by doing and saying things offensive to us or things just plain contrary to our interest - - while in hot pursuit of certain segments of the white vote.

Whether Michael Steele meant it this way or not, in my opinion it is nevertheless true:

and actinanass, you "Can't blame the so called liberal American press for this one!"

Originally Posted by QueEx

Sometimes, the better response is just:

. . . than to go and open your mouth:


and remove all doubt that you had a meaningful defense of Romney, in the first place.

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

Michael Steele's high water moment as head of the RNC.
You can't have your Presidential candidates saying Black people should learn how to make their own money than taking other people's (Rick Santorum) and expect Black folks to even entertain a Republican candidate.




Leaves you open for the counterpunch you're clearly not able to defend against.
Mittens has made some of these guys the debate equivalent of Arturo Gatti so people like me have to play Floyd Mayweather.

Originally Posted by HeathCliff

I just got a question to all you Repulicans...what happened to all the "One Term President" chants the GOP were echoing to each other not too long ago? Still believing in that bullshit or has reality sat in yet?

Again. It really doesn't matter if we *the people who supports the right on this forum* defends Romney position, or not. Who are we going to persuade on this board?

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Again. It really doesn't matter if we *the people who supports the right on this forum* defends Romney position, or not. Who are we going to persuade on this board?

Nobody because he has nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[actinanass]

Originally Posted by thoughtone

Nobody because he has nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, then, you have nothing to worry about.

[QueEx]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Again. It really doesn't matter if we *the people who supports the right on this forum* defends Romney position, or not. Who are we going to persuade on this board?

I thought you were just expressing your opinion (like the rest of us).

Were YOU TRYING TO CONVINCE ???

If so, obviously you failed -- mainly because you did such a poor job, and on top of that, YOU QUIT.

[HeathCliff]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Again. It really doesn't matter if we *the people who supports the right on this forum* defends Romney position, or not. Who are we going to persuade on this board?

Over the past three years I have been consistent when folks predicted Obama would be a one term president I always asked, who is going to beat him. Still to this day I received no answer...even after folks hopped on the Ricky P bandwagon.

It seems like anybody who opposes Obama aren't really "for" anyone else. That's what I'm getting with the default Romney supporters in person and on the internet. They know he ain't shit but they'll take him over Obama simply because he has an R in front of his name.

You don't have to persuade me. I'm just curious to hear from someone how would life be better under a Romney presidency? In what area do you believe he's better than Obama?

[Upgrade Dave]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Again. It really doesn't matter if we *the people who supports the right on this forum* defends Romney position, or not. Who are we going to persuade on this board?

Says Arturo Gatti in the third round against Floyd Mayweather

for you non-boxing fans, check that beating out on YouTube. It doesn't take long.

Originally Posted by QueEx

I thought you were just expressing your opinion (like the rest of us).

Were YOU TRYING TO CONVINCE ???

If so, obviously you failed -- mainly because you did such a poor job, and on top of that, YOU QUIT.

Originally Posted by HeathCliff

You don't have to persuade me. I'm just curious to hear from someone how would life be better under a Romney presidency? In what area do you believe he's better than Obama?

I do not sense a real answer coming from any of them but at least AAA has stood in and took the beating his compatriots lackk the courage and integrity to take.

btw, this was dead on

They know he ain't shit but they'll take him over Obama simply because he has an R in front of his name.

I can spell out why I'll be voting for Obama. I can even tell you the things I don't like that he's done. All I ask is for someone, anyone to do the same with Willard Romney, since he's the guy that wants to be POTUS and some feel would do a better job.

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Well, then, you have nothing to worry about.

Of course not!

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Well, then, you have nothing to worry about.

Like I said, rational.

[HeathCliff]

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

I can spell out why I'll be voting for Obama. I can even tell you the things I don't like that he's done. All I ask is for someone, anyone to do the same with Willard Romney, since he's the guy that wants to be POTUS and some feel would do a better job.

Same here. I can explain why I'm voting for Obama, what I don't like, what I expect and why I think he'll be better than any clown running. I'm not just voting against Mitt Romney. I'm actually for something. At least in 2008 McCain supporters could articulate about his ability to cross the isle and govern from the middle and boast his foreign policy experience. With Romney, his claim to fame is a one and done govenor and a 10 year running presidential candidate. His ace of spades was his expertise on the economy but after the forensic autopsy they're doing on his Bain experience, what has they guy got left? That's all I'm asking

[thoughtone]

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

I can spell out why I'll be voting for Obama. I can even tell you the things I don't like that he's done. All I ask is for someone, anyone to do the same with Willard Romney, since he's the guy that wants to be POTUS and some feel would do a better job.

Originally Posted by HeathCliff

Same here. I can explain why I'm voting for Obama, what I don't like, what I expect and why I think he'll be better than any clown running. I'm not just voting against Mitt Romney. I'm actually for something. At least in 2008 McCain supporters could articulate about his ability to cross the isle and govern from the middle and boast his foreign policy experience. With Romney, his claim to fame is a one and done govenor and a 10 year running presidential candidate. His ace of spades was his expertise on the economy but after the forensic autopsy they're doing on his Bain experience, what has they guy got left? That's all I'm asking

I can answer why AAA is voting for Governor Etch-A-Sketch. He has an 'R' after is name.

[actinanass]

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

Says Arturo Gatti in the third round against Floyd Mayweather

for you non-boxing fans, check that beating out on YouTube. It doesn't take long.







I do not sense a real answer coming from any of them but at least AAA has stood in and took the beating his compatriots lackk the courage and integrity to take.

btw, this was dead on



I can spell out why I'll be voting for Obama. I can even tell you the things I don't like that he's done. All I ask is for someone, anyone to do the same with Willard Romney, since he's the guy that wants to be POTUS and some feel would do a better job.

Again, for what?

I know why I'm voting for Mitt. I know what the dude stand for. However, I know the game on here. Anything that I deem as a positive, will be distorted into a negative.

I'm way pass the days of trying to convince folks on here.

Besides, Dave, you should be happy. President Obama might win in a landslide.

[Upgrade Dave]

Originally Posted by actinanass

Again, for what?

I know why I'm voting for Mitt. I know what the dude stand for. However, I know the game on here. Anything that I deem as a positive, will be distorted into a negative.

I'm way pass the days of trying to convince folks on here.

Besides, Dave, you should be happy. President Obama might win in a landslide.

If it's true, it can't be distorted.

Up until recently the "for what?" has been because this is a messageboard focused on Politics so we exchange ideas, often heatedly. It should never been about convincing anyone because anyone that comes to a political board already has their minds set in some way or another.

Please, if you do nothing else, tell me what he stands for. I'm begging you to tell me what Mitt Romney stands for but you need to hurry before he changes his mind...again.

[actinanass]

Originally Posted by Upgrade Dave

If it's true, it can't be distorted.

Up until recently the "for what?" has been because this is a messageboard focused on Politics so we exchange ideas, often heatedly. It should never been about convincing anyone because anyone that comes to a political board already has their minds set in some way or another.

Please, if you do nothing else, tell me what he stands for. I'm begging you to tell me what Mitt Romney stands for but you need to hurry before he changes his mind...again.

Dave, this is the same group of folks that would swear to you that Texas is in bad shape economically.

It suppose to be like that, Dave, but until recently, I just see it for what it is. I'm sorry that you can't see that yet.

Again, FOR WHAT?

[Upgrade Dave]

What I do see is "I can't defend this horrible candidate that I'm going to vote for but it's the board's fault."